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Conference 7.286::atarist

Title:Atari ST, TT, & Falcon
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Created:Mon Apr 04 1988
Last Modified:Tue May 06 1997
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1135.0. "Vidi ST by RAMBO" by BAHTAT::REID () Thu Jun 06 1991 04:21

    I am thinking of getting Vidi ST by RAMBO. Dowlings are selling Vidi
    ST, Vidi Chrome and the RGB Splitter for #139. 
    
    Has anyone had any experience of Vidi ST and or Dowlings. I am
    wondering if there is a newer version or some other reason why they are
    selling this so cheap.
    
    Thanks in advance
    
    Kev.
    
    PS for non UK Readers Vidi ST is as it sounds a device for grabbing video
    screen shots and allowing them to be editted and saved for future
    editing by other ST art packages.
    
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1135.1A word points worth noting...RUTILE::BISHOPFri Jun 07 1991 06:0585
    Kev,
    
    A Word of Warning  and a  little  description of  the ROMBO (mod please
    modify the title!) VIDI-ST gadgets :-
    
    
    Vidi ST
    
    	Vidi ST  allows  you to  grab 8 (for  a �Mb machine) through  to 16
    	frames in  Black and White from a video source  using phono cables.
    	You can then play  with  the pictures, cut  and paste, inverse, and
    	change the  colour palette. Changing  the colour palette is perhaps
    	the  most versatile of  these commands. There  is a nice face which
    	has been captured in B/W and  edited with a RED pallete. This gives
    	the skin tone and 'colour' back  into the  image. You  can play the
    	frames  from 1 to nn (depending how  many you  have grabbed)  in an
    	animation  sequence. This worked  quite nicely  with a  video of my
    	nephew... from  frame 1 he started laughing  through to 8, and then
    	jumped back  to  frame 1  to start  laughing again. Looks good, but 
    	is no real use! To grab, you  plug the cable  into the  VIDI-ST box
    	and press play on the video. You  will now be  seeing a B/W version
    	of the  video  on your  monitor. Press  RETURN to  start  grabbing.
    	Another press of  the key and it will stop. You now have you frames
    	to play  with. These  can  be saved in  NEO or DEGAS type files. In 
    	the package  you get the  software, a small  manual and  the device 
    	with video cables.
    
    Vidi Chrome
    
    	Vidi Chrome is basically just a new version of the software to grab
    	colour  images from  a Video *CAMERA*. Supplied  is the software, a 
    	manual and 3  filters, 1 red, 1  blue, and  1 green. I  don't quite
    	know what  they expect you to do with the filters - i haven't got a
    	video camera. Again  it has the  same features  as VIDI-ST  but you
    	have to  grab RED or BLUE or GREEN  each time. IE to make  a colour
    	picture you first  need to  grab one frame  on Red, Green, and Blue
    	and then  merge  them together. As you  may understand  this  means 
    	that  you can  only work  on  one frame at  a  time. You  can  save 
    	complete colour pictures as NEO, DEGAS, IFF or ART pictures.
    
    Vidi RGB
    
    	This little device  requires it's own power supply and  is inserted
    	in between  the video source  and VIDI-ST. It  allows you to grab a
    	split colour frame (red, green or blue) from a video source without
    	the use of the filters. It's an automatic  splitter. It has 2 extra 
    	cables  that come  out of  it. One is  on the 9-pin  joystick type, 
    	which needs to be plugged into the second joystick port, and it has 
    	a RS232 cable (DB25 pin). This doesn't appear to be used for the ST
    	version. I  understand that  it is used for  the PC version. It has
    	1 led  on top which  turns Red,  Green or  Orange  depending  which
    	colour you are  grabbing. Apparantly blue  led's are too  expensive 
    	to use. You use the Vidi Chrome  software to control this device. I
    	am not sure whether or not the animation  features of  VIDI-ST work
    	with colour or  not (i don't think they do!). Bear in  mind that to
    	grab Red, Green and Blue and then to merge them, you need a PERFECT
    	freeze frame video, and can only do 1  frame at a time. This is the
    	part that  i am  most  disappointed  with. I don't  have a  perfect
    	freeze  frame video so Vidi-Chrome and Vidi-RGB are not very useful
    	to me at the moment.
    
    Dowling are  offering this  package at a very  low price, but they have 
    none in stock! ROMBO  claim to have  stocks start coming  in again in a
    couple of  weeks. I got mine from SILICA who still have it in stock and
    it was delivered the next  morning while Dowling kept  me waiting for a
    week before they'd tell me that they would not have any in stock  for a 
    while - now that's Courier service for you! ;-)
    
    I spoke to  ROMBO about  software upgrades  because i  want to  view  a
    colour representation on the monitor, but  they said there  was nothing
    being worked on.
    
    I haven't really  played with  it too much, haven't had the time, but i
    will be  playing with it  again next week. One  good point about  it is
    that they claim it is very easily controlled by other programs. I guess
    i'll have to  start writing a  program to do  what i  want! Should take
    just a few years ;-)
    
    If you have any more questions, i'll be more than glad to reply to them
    after  all it's  about time i  started putting  notes of use  into this
    conference! ;-)
    
    Regards,
    
    				Lewis.
1135.2Use of FiltersSUBURB::JAMESHLeft Handed People are SUPER NaturalTue Jun 11 1991 06:176
    You use the filters to put between the camera and object for the three
    frames....much like colour enlarging. You can use a monochrome camera
    to produce colour pictures this way.
    Have you been able to incorporate the bin file in any programs? I find
    the instruction manual a bit sparce in information in that area.
    ...Howard