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Conference 7.286::atarist

Title:Atari ST, TT, & Falcon
Notice:Please read note 1.0 and its replies before posting!
Moderator:FUNYET::ANDERSON
Created:Mon Apr 04 1988
Last Modified:Tue May 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1433
Total number of notes:10312

987.0. "WHO KNOWS ABOUT BSTAT?" by UKCSSE::KEANE () Tue Oct 23 1990 17:01

    
    Hi, everyone,
    
    
    Please, has anyone got a late version of that magnificent stats prog
    BSTAT. I pulled a copy off PANARTHEA this week, the version there was
    2.01. I would like to get it going for my son who is doing Stats this
    year in college. It appears to run, unfortunatly I cant print from it,
    the only print option is epson FX, and I have a Nec P2200. There is
    supposed to be a Meta output and also Gdos ouput, but however I try the
    menu items remain deselected, so I assume either they never worked or
    are disabled.
    
    I gather from the info that there was going to be one more Pd release
    (2.31?) before the full price release. Does this support Gdos that
    works?
    
    I would be more than willing to cough the $30 Canadian, if I knew that
    all the features on the paying version worked!. Has anyone bought the
    full price program, and can give me a critique?
    
    All info gratefully received!
    
    P.S. The PD version is interpreted GFA V3.0 basic. The source is 450K
    long in one file. How does the author produce a source that big in one
    lump?. I thought the BAsic work space wasnt that big!
    
    Puzzled Pat.
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987.1GDOS must be installed firstVISUAL::WEAVERDave, Image Systems GroupWed Nov 14 1990 20:172
    My understanding is that you need GDOS installed for it to work.
    Have you actually tried running it with GDOS setup?
987.2progress report on BSTATUKCSSE::KEANEThu Nov 15 1990 03:5071
    
    Hi Dave,
    
    Since I have put the base note in, I have been burning the midnight
    oil!
    
    Yes I had been putting GDOS in, but it was much more subtle than this.
    
    BSTAT is a GFA BASIC program. The PD version is interpreted, (the
    shareware version will be compiled).
    
    So I have to install in my one meg machine, GDOS plus, GDOS.acc,
    portconf.acc. I then have to run GFA basic runtime, which "calls" the
    BSTAT.sys (the gdos descriptor file), and then load BSTAT.GFA, which is
    450K long. As you might guess there is sod all memory left to load Gdos
    fonts and drivers.
    
    After I stripped everything off the machine, and created a new
    environment, with just the above memory usage, when I got BSTAT loaded I
    got a NEW message that said I had 192 points available for plotting
    under GDOS.  When I looked at the GDOS menu, IT WAS ENABLED. !!!
    
    I have created numerous graphs and O/P then on the 24 pin NEC. The
    quality is SUPER.
    
    BSTAT is a fantastic program. The Stats section is extremely
    comprehensive, fast and easy to use. There is a Data entry facility,
    either from major spread sheets or from an editor. 
    
    The graphics section is tremendous. Every sort of graph and pie in the
    world is catered for. auto and manual scaling, logs, lin, XY, XYZ,
    floating bar, max, min, point, bar, bubble, etc etc. They are all 
    displayed on screen and easily edited. 
    
    If this was a commercial program it would be priced in the hundreds of
    bucks!!!
    
    However you are pinching to run it on a 1040 !!!!
    
    NOW  I got ambitious. I recently bought the HP GDOS plotter driver from
    MIGRAPH. It works well under Easydraw. So I thought here goes. Plot the
    graphs on my Plotter, in glorious technicolor!.  
    
    I changed the .SYS file to include just the plotter fonts and driver,
    and changed the GDOS device in BSTAT to 11 (plotter). Lo and behold, it
    output the frame and axis for a graph, however it didnt plot the actual
    graph lines. Not to beaten. instead of seleting plot, I instructed
    BSTAT to dump in METAFILE format. I then had a test.gem file. I loaded
    EASYDRAW and inported it. Great. I then saved it from EASYDRAW and
    PLOTTED it from OUTPRINT. Great, However the lines were all plotted
    with the same pen. I ran a utility I have called MDUMP.TTP (which dumps
    .gem files), The polyline color parameter was set to color one for all
    lines, although I had set BSTAT to plot different colors. 
    
    The problem is I use a mono monitor. BSTAT runs in high res, so it
    knows that it can only display graphs on screen in black (or as chain
    dot lines, dotted, dashed etc), so it appears to ignore me when I tell
    it to select six different line colours!. Under Eastdraw I can edit
    each polyline and give it a dif color, but this is a very slow and
    painul process, I have to ungroup the whole graph, pick and select a
    part of a line and whilst the box is active, change its color.
    The other way is to inspect and edit the .GEM file and change each
    occurrence of the polyline color definition.
    
    Or does anyone know an easier way to change line colors?
    
    Cheers
    
    Pat K.
    
    
987.3VISUAL::WEAVERDave, Image Systems GroupThu Nov 15 1990 22:4512
Alas, you may be screwed.  A cheap way to get a color monitor would be to
see if Practical Solutions makes a PAL version of it VideoKey, which is
an RGB -> NTSC converter.  The other thing that might work is to run one
of those programs that fakes color, you could then enter the color codes.

I went through a similar problem when I wanted to be able to videotape
something I created in Easydraw.  I had a MultiSync monitor, but it was
still difficult to get the colors allocated in a way that they also made
sense in monochrome.

						Good luck,
						-Dave