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Conference 7.286::atarist

Title:Atari ST, TT, & Falcon
Notice:Please read note 1.0 and its replies before posting!
Moderator:FUNYET::ANDERSON
Created:Mon Apr 04 1988
Last Modified:Tue May 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1433
Total number of notes:10312

625.0. "TOS 1.4" by ELMAGO::ESANCHEZ () Wed Oct 04 1989 11:13

    
    I HAVE  BEEN  WAITING  FOR TOS 1.4 FOR WELL OVER A YEAR, AS MANY OF YOU
    HAVE BEEN.  NOW THAT IT AS BECOME AVAILABLE I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE
    SOME COMPATIBILITY PROBLEMS WITH OLDER PROGRAMS.
    
    CAN SOMEONE VERIFY THE COMPATIBILITY PROBLEM AND WHAT THEY ARE?  IF SO,
    HAS SOMEONE COMPILED A LIST OF PROGRAMS THAT  WILL NOT RUN WITH THE NEW
    TOS.
    
    THANKS
    
    ED
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625.1THE780::MESSENGERin the hurt locker.Wed Oct 04 1989 15:175
    I should be getting my TOS 1.4 ROMs today.
    
    One of our local Atari dealers now has them -- and they have no problem
    selling them without installing them. More data later...
    				- hbm
625.2Some programs that DO work...DUGGAN::WEAVERLaboratory Data Products/ScienceThu Oct 05 1989 00:2014
    The types of programs that would have problems would be utilities
    that would have reasons to access undocumented system variables.
    
    I can tell you some programs that DO work on TOS 1.4.
    
    EasyDraw V3, V2.3			(V3 received last Saturday!)
    LDW Power V1.2?			(bought within two months)
    Touch-up (current update)
    Uniterm V2.0E, V1.8			(V1.8 doesn't like GDOS)
    Flash V1.6
    SEDT V4(256) & V3(248?)
    Mark Williams C release 3.0 & C Source Level Debugger
    
    						-Dave
625.3Sorry Jeff, inadvertant ommision!DUGGAN::WEAVERLaboratory Data Products/ScienceThu Oct 05 1989 00:211
    WHACK also works on TOS 1.4.
625.4F-16 NOT !!COLSWS::GOETZReeeesistance is uselessFri Oct 06 1989 04:315
    
    F-16 Falcon flies NOT with TOS 1.4 !!
    
    			Markus_with_TOS_1.2_over_the_clouds
                
625.5UFHIS::BFALKENSTEINWed Oct 11 1989 04:393
    Arkanoid, [Auto]:Speeder do not work with TOS 1.4
    
    Bernd
625.6Watch out for STARTGEMQARRY::BHAMILTONBuzz HamiltonThu Nov 02 1989 10:3810
    I finally got my TOS 1.4 chips!
    
    Let me warn you about STARTGEM. I had forgotten that I had used this
    program on several disks to make the auto-boot. I thought that several
    games were incompatible because they screen would say "Does not work
    with this version of TOS". It was STARTGEM that was printing this
    message. STARTGEM is not needed with TOS 1.4. You can install an
    application as AUTO start at boot time - it doesn't even need an AUTO
    folder.
    
625.7TOS 1.4 bugCSC32::B_NOTTINGHAMBill NottinghamTue Nov 14 1989 10:3213
    I have had my TOS 1.4 for a few months now.....
    
    Falcon does work with TOS 1.4
    
    
    However, there is a documented bug in TOS 1.4...forgot the specifics.
    My Neodesk 2.05 was having problems bombing until I placed their PD
    shel_fix.prg in my auto folder.
    
    So...before you call your old program incompatable you might want to
    try it with the patch program.
    
    Bill   
625.8so I'm a little behind the times...2113::DANDan Gosselin, CUP EngineeringWed Mar 14 1990 11:278
	How does a non-developer get the new 1.4 ROMs?  Are they publically 
	available now?  Do any dealers in the Southern NH or MA area perform
	the upgrades?  I've got a Mega ST2 and would prefer not having to
	rely on my own hardware skills to get the new chips installed.
	Also, how much?

	Dan
625.9PRNSYS::LOMICKAJJeffrey A. LomickaWed Mar 14 1990 12:4812
Rainbow TOS is generally available through Atari dealers worldwide.

R.F. Microtech, last time I talked to them (last weekend) still had
four or five sets of the 6-chip version in stock at $99.  He is an
autorized repair center, will install the roms at no extra cost, if you
can find his house.  (508) 667-8900

I ordered my ROMS from him last weekend, but did the install myself.

You can also get them from The Bit Bucket (508) 443-9731, but may have
to wait for them to appear in stock.   Mega's tend to prefer the two
chip version, so you might have to wait anyway.
625.10Thanks for the quick reply2113::DANDan Gosselin, CUP EngineeringWed Mar 14 1990 13:053
Thanks Jeff.  Exchanges 667 and 443 are what towns/cities in MA?

Dan
625.11PRNSYS::LOMICKAJJeffrey A. LomickaWed Mar 14 1990 13:212
R.F. Microtech is in Billerica.  Bit Bucket is in Sudbury.  There is
another Bit Bucket in Newton, if that's closer for you.
625.12Ok, but how reliable is R.F. Microtech?2113::DANDan Gosselin, CUP EngineeringWed Mar 14 1990 15:209
I'm in Nashua, so Billerica would be closest.  

You say that R.F. Microtech is an 'official' Atari repair center?
  
After reading 499.5, should I trust them with an installation?

Has anyone else ever had any experiences (good or bad) with R.F. Microtech?

Dan
625.13I've had good experiencesRODNEY::PETERSDon Peters, CTC2-1/F10, 287-3153Thu Mar 15 1990 08:3312
>Has anyone else ever had any experiences (good or bad) with R.F. Microtech?

Yes, I've dealt with Bob at R.F. Microtech many times over the past few
years, and have always been satisfied with his service. He did my 1 meg
upgrade on my old 520ST, and I've had no problem with it since then. He
also recently fixed an intermittant crash problem with a friends 1040ST.
I've seen him come to several of our ST user group meetings, both the
one in Acton-Boxboro and the one in Nashua.

Your biggest problem may be just finding his house - there is no clue on
the outside that he is an Atari registered repair center!

625.14since we're already slightly off the topic...2113::DANDan Gosselin, CUP EngineeringThu Mar 15 1990 09:128
	>I've seen him come to several of our ST user group meetings, both the
	>one in Acton-Boxboro and the one in Nashua.

	Pardon my ignorance, but could you tell me more about the Nashua ST
	users group?  I had no idea that one existed...

	Dan
625.15praise for R.F. MicrotechEUCLID::PAULHUSChris @ MLO6B-2/T13 dtn 223-6871Thu Mar 15 1990 10:323
    	I, for one, am Very glad R.F. Microtech is in our area! (see note
    773).  Bob is the best person I have delt with in the world of Atari.
    	- Chris
625.16See note 602.0 for NASTUS infoRODNEY::PETERSDon Peters, CTC2-1/F10, 287-3153Thu Mar 15 1990 12:345
>Pardon my ignorance, but could you tell me more about the Nashua ST
>users group?  I had no idea that one existed...

  Yes, it sure does exist. See note 602.0 for details.