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Conference 7.286::atarist

Title:Atari ST, TT, & Falcon
Notice:Please read note 1.0 and its replies before posting!
Moderator:FUNYET::ANDERSON
Created:Mon Apr 04 1988
Last Modified:Tue May 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1433
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619.0. "Atari at the PC show." by UKCSSE::KEANE () Mon Oct 02 1989 05:32

    
    I visited the Personal Computer show in London this weekend, this show
    is one of the largest, it has three sections, professional, general and
    entertainment.
    
    Atari had one of the largest stands in the general section. There
    stand was split into three, a business section, an arcade section, and
    a lecture/demo area.
    
    The Atari business area was devoted to business applications,
    demonstrated by some of the main distributers and software houses.
    The machines in use were all megas, with lasers, scanners and plotters
    and such like. running DTP and CAD applications. 
    
    Atari themselves had a long display of their various PC's. They were not
    pushing the ST, STE, TT or ATW as a BUSINESS system
    
    They has several round stands dotted about with lots of the Folio hand
    helds. They were all available to play with, although they were attached
    to the tables for security.
    I found the key board dificult to use, (I find it hard to type on a
    LK201 properly), due to the small size and closeness of the Foli's
    keys. My son found it great. (he has smaller hands!)
    
    Dotted round the outside of the stand were some of the other new
    offerings. There was a TT demoing a graphics art program, Absolutely
    STUNNING!!!!. and several STACEYS, I saw one running MIDI sequencer
    programs. Atari are pushing the STACEY as a Professional MIDI players
    PORTABLE computer. 
    
    I saw a Stacey on the Hisoft stand running MAC Pagemaker, with a
    SPectre GCR stuck in the Cartridge port. Several of the larger
    Distributers or software houses had Staceys on their stands.	
    
    	Allmost hidden in one corner of the Atari stand was an ATW, the
    transputer machine. This was advertised as running the first commercial
    package. This was by KODAK, and was a color film processor. ( If this
    takes off then the ATW should have an interesting future).
    
    The Atari stand literature was a 6 sided throw sheet. The front has a
    headline "You get a lot more out of the Atari PC range, picture of two
    PC's and Atari logo.
    
    The rear sheet has a picture of the ATW, Parallel processing:Unparalled
    power, a tech spec and price guide. The entry M/c is 5000 pounds about.
    
    The third sheet of the back has a picture of a Portfolio, the caption
    "The computer for everyone", spec and price 217.38 pounds 
    By the way the peripherals are NOT yet Available but the Atari man said
    this week!
    Inside there are two pages showing five of the Atari PC range, and the
    sixth side is a listof "NEW PRODUCTS LAUNCHED AT the 1989 personal
    computer show.
    
    These are the TT, spec given and price 1,999.99 pounds inc color
    monitor.
    "This is the first of a family of machines that, when expanded provide
    single and multi-user UNIX workstations at hitherto unheard of prices.
    
    The STACEY. 1299.99 pounds Pushed as a music MIDI machine!
    
    ABC-286 a PC 799.99 pounds low end entry
    
    Portfolio periphereals,
    Serial 232  60 pouinds
    parallel cintronics 40 pounds
    Super memory expander to 640K 180 pounds
    memory cards  32 K 50 pounds
    		  64K 90 pounds
    		  128K 130 pounds
    
    Card drive for a PC to read write the memory cards 70 pounds.
    
    Anyone who wants further details mail me!!
    
    In summary, I think despite the efforts of Atari, the ST is becoming
    accepted in niche markets, but not in the mainstream, where the all
    pervading PC has got it all. I think a lot of visxitors were reallly
    impressed by the quality of the equipment and software being shown, not
    by Atari themselves, but by the software houses.
    
    Cheers
    
    Pat K.
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619.1The lynx was there to!UKCSSE::KEANEMon Oct 02 1989 05:367
    
    I almost forgot, halfway through the morning a LYNX appeared on a stand
    in the arcade, the Atari guy fitting it in place said Sam had brought
    it over the night before!. It was running a demo. but for security it
    was in a plastic dome, which was quite scratched, so the details were
    not very visable!! The Atari guy said he was trying to get it on the
    market for Christmas, at a sub 100 pound price.
619.2Lynx????BREW11::LANE�vi� D��d II...D��d ߥ D�wnMon Oct 02 1989 12:249
    Hello Pat,
    	A million thanks for taking the time to do the show review as
    I couldn't make it to the show myself.
    	BTW what is a Lynx that you mention in .2 and was there any
    mention of the Dungeon Master sequel?
    
    Regards 
    
    		Roger
619.3Lynx, not a DEC workstation!UKCSSE::KEANEMon Oct 02 1989 14:3333
    Sorry, I thought everyone knew what a Lynx was (8>)).
    
    The Lynx is a hand held games console, it is about 10 inches across and
    three wide. it is held in both hands, with a miniture joystick at one
    end and fire buttons at the other. In the middle is a small 3 X 2 inch
    LCD colour display. The display can be inverted for right versus left 
    handed users. Games are fed to the thing on Credit card type packs. It
    has a graphical palletteof 4096 colours four channel sound effects,
    powered by six AA batteries processor 6502C processor. 16 bit system. I
    cant remeember how much ram it gets on the cartridges, 512 K rings a
    bell!  The unfortunate thing is that EPYX are supposed to be developing
    games software for Atari, but last week they EpYyx, fired all but 16 of
    their staff.
    
    There was nothing about a Dungeon Master sequel. The only offering on
    the MIrror soft stand was the MOST AMAZING INCREDIBLE graphics of a new
    game STUNT CAR. The game opens with a incar view of a off road car
    showing the front, (hood) , and  top of the front wheels. The car is
    attached by chains to a crane, and lifted onto a raised track. When you
    think you are over the track and low enough you press the fire button
    and the chains break, the car drops down onto the track, the front
    wheels bump up and down on the suspension. You then have to steer the
    car around the elevated track, jumping gaps in the track. If you
    mis-steer the car crashes to the ground.
    
    The current adventure offering that is similar to Dungeon Master is
    Bloodwych, this can be a two player game. An interesting adventure? is
    KULT, this has a tremendous sense of humour, and atmosphere aided by
    good sound effects.
    
    TTFN
    
    Pat K
619.4minor nitNORGE::CHADIch glaube Ich t�te Ich h�tteTue Oct 03 1989 10:056
minor point:

The 6502 family is a 1-4 mhz (usually) 8 bit processor.  The same as in the
Apple II family, Atari 4/800/XL/XE/XE GAMESYSTEM family, Commodore 64 family
of computers.  Either the Lynx has this (slow) processor and is not 16 bit
or it has something else and 16 bits.
619.56502C is 8 bit !UKCSSE::KEANETue Oct 03 1989 12:1512
    
    RE .1 You are right....
    
    I dropped off. I looked up the spec in a publicity puff in the ST
    world, as there was no litereature on the LYNX at the show, I asked my
    son whether the 6502C was 8 or 16 bits as I didnt recognise it, and he
    said 16,  It isnt though. THE 6502 is the CPU in the old dragons and 
    BBC's and is 8 bits, 8 BITS 8 BITS!!
    
    Sorry 
    
    Pat.
619.6Possible Answer...VICTOR::LIVEUSERTue Oct 03 1989 12:396
    There is a processor which is the 16 bit version of the 6502 and
    is used in the APPLE IIGS. Its serial No. is very similar to 6502
    , it is able to run all 6502 code and switch to a mode where all
    addressing and registers are 16 bit.
    
    	Could this be it ???
619.7QARRY::BHAMILTONBuzz HamiltonWed Oct 04 1989 09:298
    The writeups that I have seen about the Lynx fail to mention what CPU
    is used. They do say that it runs at 16 Mhz so I doubt it's a 6502.
    They also say that the display has 16 of 4096 colo(u)rs and that the
    screen has a 106x102 pixel resolution. That has to be comparable on a
    square inch basis to the ST low rez screen, doesn't it?
    
    There were pictures of the sreens for games that are being prpeared for
    release in the Atari Explorer magazine. They looked very good!
619.8Lynx is 6502 basedDUGGAN::WEAVERLaboratory Data Products/ScienceFri Oct 06 1989 00:275
    The Lynx CPU is a 6502.  People wanting developer information
    can call Larry Siegal in the Atari Chicago office - if you know
    anyone so inclined.
    
    						-Dave