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Conference 7.286::atarist

Title:Atari ST, TT, & Falcon
Notice:Please read note 1.0 and its replies before posting!
Moderator:FUNYET::ANDERSON
Created:Mon Apr 04 1988
Last Modified:Tue May 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1433
Total number of notes:10312

586.0. "ZZ ROUGH, who knows about it?" by UKCSSE::KEANE () Mon Sep 04 1989 11:44

    
    Hi,
    
    In the Sept ST World is a review of a French sketching/art program
    called "ZZ ROUGH". It is not yet on sale in the UK. From the review, it
    seems like a very interesting innovation, and is completely different
    to all the other painting programs. The major difference is that the
    program behaves like a pen and color ink sketch pad, if you select a pen
    with a color and go over the same area twice, the color darkens also if
    you cover a previous color with a fresh color, the colors mix.
    
    Has anyone in France or anywhere, seen or got this program, if so please 
    could they comment on it, Is it a good buy?. Is it easy to use? What
    output formats does it provide ?
    
    In the UK, Rombo productions have a limited license to sell the
    program, with their VIDI TV grabber. They cannot sell the program
    stand-alone. I contacted the French software house who wrote the prog, 
    they want 333 Fr plus 50 Fr for postage for it. If its worth buying, is
    there anywhere in France that takes  phone orders for plastic, or written
    orders with a Eurocheque thats a bit cheaper?
    
    Thanks for any information
    
    Pat K.
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586.1VIDI on ST User DiscOPG::CHRISCapacity! What Capacity ?Mon Sep 04 1989 12:315
    In the lastest issue of Atari User the disc supplied has the VIDI
    software with several example pictures.
    
    
    Chris
586.2ZZ ROUGH not equal to VIDI STUKCSSE::KEANEMon Sep 04 1989 15:5532
    Hello Chris,
    
    
    The Vidi software you mention is the digitizing software. This captures
    a series of pictures in monochrome, not neccessarily black and white.
    (There is a "pallette" control with the vidi software to enable you to
    set a Hue or cast to the recorded image.
    
    What I am refering to is the ADDITIONAL program one can buy from ROMBO
    if one has the VIDI unit. ZZ ROUGH is a completely separate coloring
    program. However Rombo only have a licence to distribute as part of a
    VIDI sale !!.
    
    Changing subjects slightly, what do people think of the "Freeby"
    software given away with the magazines nowadays. I thought the two
    disks supplied with the ST User were quite poor, especially after their
    advertising stated workable programs, they were all demos.
    
    The only halfway decent program was the disk flipper utility. (For
    those who havnt seen it this is what it does). The disk supplied with
    the magazine is a DOUBLE sided disk with programs on each side. BUT
    recorded specially as two distinct sides. For
    those customers with a single sided disk drive, they can ONLY read all the
    programs on side 1 with no problems. For those customers with a double
    sided disk drive, they can read the programs on side 1 and when they
    want to read the other programs, they run flipper. This transposes all
    the data on side 1 with that on side two. The programs which were on
    the second side are now on the first, and can be accessed in the normal
    way. Cute HUH?
    
    TTFN
    
586.3PedanticIOSG::HAYESJWed Sep 13 1989 07:265
    If you've got a double sided drive, why would you want to run a program
    to access the second side? It sounds like the sign whose only message
    reads 'Do Not Throw Stones at This Notice'!
    
    J.O.H.N
586.4TWO SINGLE SIDES ON A DOUBLE SIDED DISKUKCSSE::KEANEThu Sep 14 1989 04:2719
    Hi john, 
    
    You miss the point.  
    
    The magazine gives away a disk with APPROX 720 K of freebies on it.
    written as separate single sided data, on both sides of the disk.
    
    Those Punters with ST's with single sided DRIVES get to see 360 K of
    the freebies. (off one side only)
    
    Those punters with a DOUBLE SIDED  drive  can access the first side,
    and when they have done with that side can "FLIP" the data and access
    the other side.
    
    Each side has been written as tho it was a single sided disk, the
    normal way of writng a double sided is track to track on each side, so a
    single sided drive CANNOT read a normal double sided disk. 
    
    Get it now ??
586.5Next time I keep my mouth shutIOSG::HAYESJThu Sep 14 1989 07:053
    I've got it now, thanks. Excuse my ignorance.
    
    J.O.H.N