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Conference 7.286::atarist

Title:Atari ST, TT, & Falcon
Notice:Please read note 1.0 and its replies before posting!
Moderator:FUNYET::ANDERSON
Created:Mon Apr 04 1988
Last Modified:Tue May 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1433
Total number of notes:10312

423.0. "STRANSF/WHACK help for a new un.." by GALLOP::BUCKG (don't let THEM grind you down) Tue Mar 14 1989 09:28

    
    
    	I have just discovered the wonders of the atarist notesfile
    and kermit'ed a copy of whack onto my st.....
    
    I am having problems getting this wonderous Whack/Stransf link working
    and need some help..this what I have done so far:
    
  1)  Copied Whack.prg/stransf.exe and docs from Jeff L(thanks Jeff)
    
  2)  copied whack.prg onto my st....yawn slow!
    
  3)  logged in using whack after playing with the setup..
    
  4)  invoke stransf...run stransf and it complains of wrong syntax..giving
    the correct syntax in a message ..  use {get|put} infile outfile..ok
    
  5)  I have tried many syntaxes but no go..I get incomplete command
    line message ....I cant get it to run!!
    
  6)  I have spent quite a while reading notefiles and docs on  whack
    and stransf and have got no further .....is it my fat fingers or
    my fat head I ask myself , or is there a  secret that i do not know
    (ie what system logicals/recources/setups are nessesary )       
    
    ...Gareth Buck
    
    Ps. some of the PD  sources are not there (anyone know of any kids
    education progs available)
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423.1A little helpVINO::BHAMILTONBuzz HamiltonTue Mar 14 1989 11:0032
    First you must have SSU installed on your VAX.
    
    When you login you give the command SSU ENABLE.
    
    STRANSF should be defined so that you can give it parameters. In
    my LOGIN.COM file I define some symbols thusly:
    
    $ STRANSF :== $ST:STRANSF
    $ STP :== @ST:STP
    $ STG :== @ST:STG
    
    The ST: is a logical pointing the the area where STRANSF.EXE, STP.COM,
    and STG.COM live.  The leading $ before ST:STRANSF allows parameters
    to be passed on the calling line.
    
    The STP.COM file has:
    $ STRANSF PUT 'P1' 'P1'
    
    and STG.COM has:
    $ STRANSF GET 'P1' 'P1'
    
    So that when I want to download a file from the VAX to my ST I
    
    1) Boot WHACK on the ST
    2) Login to the VAX
    3) set my default directory to where the file is on the VAX
    4) Enable SSU  (SSU ENA)
    5) Start the transfer  (STG file.nam)
    6) Logout when finished
    
    This works for me and it's VERY fast.
423.2TRILGY::MESSENGERNewOrderTechnique: Guitars again!Tue Mar 14 1989 13:245
    Re: STRANSF
    
    The key point being that stransf must be defined as a foreign command
    (stransf :== $sys$login:stransf) for C command line parsing to work.
    				- HBM
423.3Key point: SSU ENABLE requiredREGENT::LOMICKARoy LomickaThu Mar 16 1989 08:544
The other key point is that stransf requires SSU ENABLE.  If you don't 
use SSU ENABLE, the transfer will quit after a few packets, when the 
stransf protocol generates an XOFF character.  The SSU ENABLE provides
a full 8-bit channel to programs, and SSU relies on it.
423.4Many Thanks For The HelpODDSON::BUCKGdon't let THEM grind you downWed Mar 22 1989 11:207
    Thanks to all for the help.......after I defined the logical and
    enabled SSU  ( $MCR SSU ENABLE ) on my system, it all works...
    I am very impressed with the speed of transferr 
    
    Many thanks
    
    Gareth
423.5I got a headacheGIDDAY::KNIGHTPThere's room for you insideWed Sep 28 1994 00:3810
    I know the following question is probably stupid....but I'llask it
    anyway ...8^).
    
    	I have an Atari 1040ste at home (just floppy,no hard drive),
    can I run STransf or Whack on it and copy files from the Vax
    at work via modem down to my floppy drive at home???
    
    Or have I lost the plot somewhere?
    
    P.K.
423.6WHACK+ZMODEM works fineMUNSBE::BFALKENSTEINWed Sep 28 1994 05:378
    
    Yes, you can. Just get yourself ZMODEM for the VAX (or XMODEM), and
    use the same protocolls on your Atari. Use WHACK to log in and on the
    $-prompt type the appropriate command for the transfer protocol. If
    you need them, I could make them available on the net - send me a mail.
    
    Bernd