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Conference 7.286::atarist

Title:Atari ST, TT, & Falcon
Notice:Please read note 1.0 and its replies before posting!
Moderator:FUNYET::ANDERSON
Created:Mon Apr 04 1988
Last Modified:Tue May 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1433
Total number of notes:10312

305.0. "Moria for the ST, anybody ?" by PILOU::ANDERSEN (Deallocating my spare time to free) Fri Nov 18 1988 03:33

    Hello all ..
    
    I've been strugling to put together the MORIA postings from the
    USENET, and I have not reached my goal. It seems that I am missing
    some mails.
    
    Is there anybody who has all the mails or the uud'ed, dearced files
    ?

����Martin
        
    PS. Moria is a dungeon type game, originally written on the VAX
        I think. At least thats where I tried it.
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305.1SolvedPILOU::ANDERSENDeallocating my spare time to freeFri Nov 18 1988 05:499
    Thanks to the network, I've got an answer to my problems.
    
    If anybody interested, there's a notesfile on LOOP::MORIA, containing
    help, "spoilers", hack's etc..
    Since the ST's moria is a port, there might be some differences
    to the original VAX game, but I find it worth consulting/reading.
    
    Cheers 
	����Martin
305.2Help please...RUTILE::BISHOPThu Apr 12 1990 06:1613
    Can anybody supply me with a working copy of moria for the ST.
    
    I will gladly pay any postage and disk costs, as there is no way
    i can copy it to my ST.
    
    Any help would be appriciated. I am located in France(nr Geneva),
    but also available in the UK.
    
    Thanks in advance,
    
    Lewis.
    
    Newly_addicted_player_who_cant_go_to_lunch_anymore_because_he_plays_moria.
305.3I've got it on-linePRNSYS::LOMICKAJJeffrey A. LomickaThu Apr 12 1990 11:446
PRNSYS::DUA2:[LOMICKAJ.HOBBY.ST]MORIABIN.ARC,MORIATXT.ARC

Empty them both into the same folder, and invoke "moria." from a shell,
such as gulam, or rename it moria.ttp.  I ran it from the Mark Williams
shell and it seemed to work fine.

305.4Great, but .....RUTILE::BISHOPThu Apr 12 1990 12:0613
    Jeff,
    
    Thanks for that, but i really wanted some great helpful person to
    put it onto disk and send it to me. Please remember that i have
    no de-arcing programs, so i am looking for a 'running' version.
    (There is absoultely no way of getting it to my ST at the moment 
    because i'm in France and the ST is in the UK).
    
    As i said before i will gladly pay for any postage and disk costs.
    
    Regards,
    
    Lewis.
305.5Oh. I see.PRNSYS::LOMICKAJJeffrey A. LomickaThu Apr 12 1990 12:183
If nobody on your side of the pond will do this for you, let me know
and I'll do it from stateside.

305.6RUTILE::BISHOPThu Apr 19 1990 04:2211
    Well Jeff,
    
    It seems like no one 'on my side of the pond' is willing to do it.
    
    Are you still ok with doing it?
    
    If so want do you want, my mail address at work, or just mailstop?
    
    Thanks in advance,
    
    Lewis.
305.7How to...SNOC02::WILEYROBINThe BearWed Apr 25 1990 21:5718
    Jeff,
    
    If you have access to a DECstation PC (or any other clone with a 3.5"
    diskette drive) attached to the net, you can copy Atari files onto it
    using normal MS-DOS commands, and the Atari will read them OK.  That's
    how I got my copy of Moria, which leads me to my next question...
    
    
    Anybody,
    
    I now have Moria on a diskette that my Atari can understand.  I don't
    understand this stuff about 'shells' - in the past, I have just copied
    ST games off the net which have a '.PRG' suffix, pointed to them with
    the mouse, 'click', and away it goes!
    
    How can I run this version in that way?
    
    Robin Wiley @ADO - Adelaide, South Australia
305.8Yes, a shell is neededVINO::OCONNORProud owner of a Ferrari F-40Thu Apr 26 1990 12:239
    Hi,
    
    Moria is designed to be run out of a command shell.  There are several
    good PD command shells floating around of the EASYNET.  One of the best
    examples is GULAM.  Which I don't happen to have a copy of on my
    accounts right now, but I'm sure you can find it elsewhere.
    
    
    Joe
305.9PRNSYS::LOMICKAJJeffrey A. LomickaThu Apr 26 1990 12:408
The Moria disk that I sent to  Mr. Bishop works fine if you just launch
MORIA.TOS (renamed from MORIA.) from the floppy disk.  This might be
because I launched it from NEODESK which does let you set environment
variables, but I think it will work anyway.

I haven't tried read/writing with DECstations yet, but since I get
1000bytes/sec with Whack/Stransf to the Stacy, I just copy the files
that way.
305.10Thanks...RUTILE::BISHOPDon't touch that red butt...boomFri Apr 27 1990 06:045
    Thanks Jeff,
    
    Just waiting to recieve it now...
    
    Lewis.
305.11Lockup!SNOC02::WILEYROBINThe BearMon Apr 30 1990 21:439
    Re .3:
    I renamed MORIA to MORIA.TTP, and ran it OK for about 2 minutes, at
    which point the cursor disappeared, and the system locked up.  After
    resetting, the same thing happens consistently.  I am not using a shell
    of any kind.
    
    What's wrong?
    
    -Robin.
305.12It works for mePRNSYS::LOMICKAJJeffrey A. LomickaTue May 01 1990 11:152
Did you dearc both MORIATXT.ARC and MORIABIN.ARC into the same folder? 
It needs some of the MORIATXT files, like MANIFEST and HIGHSCOR.ES to run.
305.13Thanks...SNOC02::WILEYROBINThe BearTue May 01 1990 22:515
    Jeff,
    Thanks for the tip - I did not bother putting MANIFEST on my disk, as I
    thought it was just a list of files.  Also, I now have a copy of GULAM,
    so I'll try these this evening, and see how it performs.
    
305.14Success!SNOC02::WILEYROBINThe BearWed May 02 1990 21:1013
    OK, now I'm confused...  I put all of the MORIATXT.ARC and MORIABIN.ARC
    contents onto a single disk, fired up the ST, opened the disk, pointed
    to the file MORIA, click on the mouse, and away it went!  I did not
    have to rename it .TTP or .TOS or anything else.  Why were people
    earlier in this topic suggesting that it needs renaming?
    
    Also, just for fun, I loaded GULAM, and at the prompt tried typing
    'moria', 'run moria', 'load moria', etc, but always got the message 
    saying something like "File not found" or "Illegal command" etc.
    
    Also, I have seen mention of using Wizard Mode, by using the name
    GANDALF etc.  Where and how is this invoked?