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Conference 7.286::atarist

Title:Atari ST, TT, & Falcon
Notice:Please read note 1.0 and its replies before posting!
Moderator:FUNYET::ANDERSON
Created:Mon Apr 04 1988
Last Modified:Tue May 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1433
Total number of notes:10312

299.0. "NEW COMERS" by DSM::GOULD (Caress of Steel) Tue Nov 15 1988 09:18

    I am brand new to this notes file.
    There is something that I feel needs clarification for newcomers
    like myself. I could be wrong, and maybe this information is already
    posted in a complete manner somewhere else.
    
    I got into this notes file for the first time, and saw some notes
    that talk about FREE on-line software for the ATARI ST. Please do
    not laugh I realize this is a silly quesiton for most,
    
    BUT how do I actually get this software ?
    Where did it come from ?
    The directories are listed where the software exists, but how can
    I actually get the stuff running on my ST at home on 5 1/4 inch
    disks ?
    Is it all public domain ?
        
    Is there some note somewhere that kind of explains all this ?
    Or maybe someone with a lot of experience could give a quick summary.
    Please set me straight if this is a real silly question.
    
    
    Thanks MUCH !!
    
    
    Dave
    
    
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299.1How to find itDORIS::JAMESLeft Handed People are Super NaturalTue Nov 15 1988 12:434
    Note 9 tells you what is available and note 52 with all its replies
    tells you how to get it.
    Nice to have you aboard and happy reading.
    ...Howard
299.2an overviewLEDDEV::WALLACETue Nov 15 1988 13:5355
    >> BUT how do I actually get this software ?
    Simply put - You copy the files from the VAX (your system at work)
    to the ST over a telephone modem. To do this you need -
    		o A modem for your ST
    		o The phone number to dial into your computer at work
    		o A terminal emulator program for the ST (this makes it
    		  possible for your ST to use the modem to talk to your
    		  work computer)
    		o A special "copy program" for your computer at work
    		  (this will probably be called KERMIT or XMODEM)
    		o The equivelent special "copy program" for the ST
    		  (this is sometimes built into the terminal emulator
    		  program, the UNITERM terminal emulator has both XMODEM
    		  and KERMIT)
    
    >> Where did it come from ?
    I would say most of the programs are from USENET (a world wide public
    access computer network). Some programs are from BBS systems or
    Atari users groups and yet others are written by the people using this
    notes file.
    
    >> The directories are listed where the software exists, but how can
    >> I actually get the stuff running on my ST at home on 5 1/4 inch
    >> disks ?
    Using 5 1/4 disk drives on the ST is possible but not as simple
    as pluging one in (unless you want to pay money for a commercial
    product and software :-) ). Most people choose to use modems and a few
    enjoy the convience (and transfer speed) to be able to connect the ST to
    their work computers directly (connecting a wire between RS232 ports on
    the two systems).
    
    >> Is it all public domain ?
    Most are public domain, some are shareware, and one (called WHACK a
    terminal emulator by Jeff Lomicka) is "FOR DEC INTERNAL USE ONLY".
    Shareware is similiar to public domain in that it can be copied and
    distributed freely, the difference is the authors request that if you
    use the program and you like it they would like you to send them a
    small amount of money. The amount is usualy $5 to $15 or so and it
    sometimes gets you the privelge of a printed manual and/or a more
    complete version of the program and/or the sources to the program. 
    
    >> Is there some note somewhere that kind of explains all this ?
    As mentioned in .1 note 52 and its replies explain a lot of the details
    but I thought that the discussions in notes 52.* would be a little
    easier to digest with the above overview as a starting point. 
    
    >> Please set me straight if this is a real silly question.
    If at the notes prompt you do a
    		dir/title="whatever your subject is" *
    and you don't find a note that answers your question then by all
    means ask it (* tells "dir" to look at the title of all base notes,
    *.* will tell "dir" to look at the title of all base notes and all
    their replies, *.* will obviously take longer but is more thorough)!
    
    	Ray
299.3THANKS !!!DSM::GOULDCaress of SteelWed Nov 16 1988 08:4311
    re: .1 and especially .2
    
    
    Thank you both very much for the information.
    I think I am on the way. It will take some time to get all this
    stuff set up and working, but I'll get it.
    

    Thanks again,
    
    Dave Gould