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Conference 7.286::atarist

Title:Atari ST, TT, & Falcon
Notice:Please read note 1.0 and its replies before posting!
Moderator:FUNYET::ANDERSON
Created:Mon Apr 04 1988
Last Modified:Tue May 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1433
Total number of notes:10312

227.0. "Price Drops for Xmas" by SEDOAS::WATT (It's Life Jim but not as we know it) Fri Sep 16 1988 11:50

    
    Atari have announced a price reduction in the UK of the 520STFM.
    It will now retail for 299.00 pounds and include a 1meg floppy plus
    399.00 pounds worth of games. (ie. the summer pack)
    
    Peter.
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227.1GoodSTAR::HEERMANCEReturn of the Crash Dumps from HellFri Sep 16 1988 12:258
    I have always wondered why it's called the 1 meg floppy when it
    only holds a little over 700K in the default format.  With luck
    the DS drive will become the standard and software will ship in
    that format.  It really pisses me off when I get copy protected
    software on two disks and I can't merge them onto my hard disk
    or onto a single floppy.
    
    Martin H.
227.2520 = 299, 1040 = 399 ??WARMTH::KAYDIf music be the love of food...Fri Sep 16 1988 13:0311
    re .0 :

    Does this mean that the 1040STFM is down to 399 pounds ? Is there
    a games pack with the 1040 ??


    Cheers,

    Derek (who wants to run memory-hungry music software)

227.3HD's are the same wayMILRAT::WALLACEFri Sep 16 1988 13:135
    1meg of raw disk space, after it's formatted (add sync bytes, sector
    gaps, etc..) and one of the TOS bugs throughs away a couple of
    clusters, you end up with 726,016 bytes.
    
    	Ray
227.4DORIS::JAMESLeft Handed People are Super NaturalFri Sep 16 1988 13:452
    Buy the 520 for �299.00, upgrade to 1 meg for �89.00 and you have
    your 1040 for �388.00 !!!!!!
227.5Advertisements <> TruthSTAR::HEERMANCEReturn of the Crash Dumps from HellFri Sep 16 1988 15:1212
    Re: .3
    
    Those number games are really ludicrous.  People really only care
    about the space they can use.  If it says 20 megs that's how much
    useable space should be available.   Otherwise, I wish they would
    call it something else.   I am fairly sure that when I did a show
    on my hard drive it claimed to have ten megs of useable space per
    partition.  Maybe I was wrong.
    
    I guess it's to much to ask for truth in computer ads. ;^) 
    
    Martin H.
227.6Sorry for the confusion on HD'sMILRAT::WALLACEFri Sep 16 1988 19:0710
    I agree with you about playing games with numbers being ludicrous,
    etc..
    
    Your also correct that when you buy a 20meg HD (SH204 etc.) you
    realy get 20 meg "formated" (or there abouts).  When I wrote the
    note I was thinking about the HD drive specs that I have read were
    the raw drive capacity is say 30meg and the formated capacity is
    20meg. 
    
    	Ray
227.7phewSTAR::HEERMANCEReturn of the Crash Dumps from HellSun Sep 18 1988 16:355
    Good, I'm glad we're in agreement.  Now I can also breath a sigh
    of relief knowing that I do have a 20 meg hard disk and why ~700K
    equals 1 meg.
    
    Martin H.
227.8Price correctionHAMPS::POOREStuart Poore, SRAC, Basingstoke, UKMon Sep 19 1988 07:0316
    Re .0
    
    No, No, No, ! As seen on the Atari stand at the Show in London :-
    
    You can buy a 520 STFM for �299.00 ** OR **
    a 520 STFM with �450 worth of games for �399.00 (different games
    from the summer pack, now known as the "Special Pack").
    
    The official price of the 1040STFM is �499.00 but I saw it for �399.00.
    
    You can pick up a 520STFM with �MByte drive for �249.00 if you wish.
    
    I ended up buying the old Summer Pack for �349.00 (1MByte drive,
    22 old games).
    
    		Stuart P.
227.9Honest this is it.SEDOAS::WATTIt&#039;s Life Jim but not as we know itMon Sep 19 1988 10:539
    re .8
    
    Yes yes yes, as seen in PCW Friday the 16th (part III :-)), as of
    October the first the 520STFM will cost 299.00 and will include
    a set of software worth 399.00 it will also include a double sided
    drive as this is going to be the standard from now on (sorry Re
    earlier replies, not 1 meg).
    
    Regards Peter.
227.10ODIHAM::POOREStuart Poore, SRAC, Basingstoke, UKTue Sep 20 1988 12:546
    re .9
    
    Well thats not how I read the magazine reports, so lets wait and
    see. (Will I be proved right or will I burst into tears ?)
    
    		Stuart P.
227.11TENERE::DEIGHTONThu Oct 06 1988 19:335
Yes, but this month's PCW had an advertisment for a 520STFm with 1 Meg for 399
just as I git used to 520=1/2 meg, 1040=1 meg etc etc.

I just wished I'd waited a couple of years and bought the 520STF....at least the
mother board has space for the chips for expand to 1 meg relatively easily.
227.12Sometimes I'm just a little slowMILRAT::WALLACEThu Oct 06 1988 20:2225
    Wait a mintute...if my memory serves me...
    
    First they changed the 520 so it had a built in power supply like
    the 1040.
    
    Then they changed the mother board in the 520 so it is the same
    as the 1040.
    
    Then they changed the 520 so the built in drive was DS like the
    1040.
    
    Now they have changed the 520 so it has 1meg of ram in it (trivial
    with the 1040 mother board).
    
    That means that now the only difference between the 520 and the
    1040 is that the 520 has an RF modulator and the 1040 doesn't.
    
    So now if I want to upgrade my system I should sell my 1040 and
    buy a 520?  It sounds like this 1meg 520 is cheaper than a 1040 on top
    of it all???
    
    Am I missing something here folks or is Atari trying to confuse
    us all?
    
       	Ray
227.131 Meg drive capacity !?!ODIHAM::POOREStuart Poore, SRAC, Basingstoke, UKFri Oct 07 1988 05:339
    Re .11
>Yes, but this month's PCW had an advertisment for a 520STFm with 1 Meg for 399
>just as I git used to 520=1/2 meg, 1040=1 meg etc etc.
    
    Are you sure your not getting confused. Isn't the 1 Meg they refer
    to the DISK DRIVE capacity ? Surely the 520 still has 1/2 Mb memory,
    otherwise, as you say, it would be a 1040 !
    
    	Stuart P.
227.14there was a 1 meg 520NORGE::CHADFri Oct 07 1988 08:5013

  Atari did sell 520's with 1meg RAM.  At least in Germany.  I saw in several
places like Kaufhof a beast called the 520 ST+, the + meaning 1 meg *RAM*.
I do believe that these were the older diskless 520 type boxes (external disk).
This was early (march -- may) 1987.

RE: upgrade

  No, not a 520, but 2.5 or 4 meg RAM and a 40 meg HD  for  your 1040 :)
(and a multisync type monitor!!!)

CHad