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Conference 7.286::atarist

Title:Atari ST, TT, & Falcon
Notice:Please read note 1.0 and its replies before posting!
Moderator:FUNYET::ANDERSON
Created:Mon Apr 04 1988
Last Modified:Tue May 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1433
Total number of notes:10312

167.0. "Anyone got FATSPEED Please??" by RDGENG::KEANE () Wed Jul 20 1988 11:59

    Hi,
    
    	Has anyone got a copy of FATSPEED that I could try. I missed
    it on USENET, and cant get any response from Lakesys.??
    
    	Also has anyone tried it out on their hard disk? does it make
    a significant improvement to the FAT look-up times??
                                                     
    Will be grateful for any inputs                  
                                                     
                                                     
    Cheers                                           
                                                     
    Pat K.                                           
                                                     
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167.1I just got it. No problems, so far.PANGLS::BAILEYWed Jul 20 1988 17:2711
    I asked this same question.  Since then, however, I got it (from
    Compu$erve, ugh!  This better be good).
    
    It works REALLY WELL!  It doesn't seem to work as well as TurboDOS,
    however, at least it works.  I haven't ever gotten TurboDOS to work
    correctly.
    
    Anyhow, I will upload it.  Look for it tomorrow on:
             MAY14""::PUBROOT:[ATARI]FATSPEED.ARC
    
    Steph
167.2Eh?PRNSYS::LOMICKAJJeff LomickaThu Jul 21 1988 11:468
"works", "does't work as well as TurboDOS", "I haven't ever gotten
TurboDOS to work"

I can't resolve these seemingly contradictory statements.  Turbodos is
this totally quiet program that just sits in my system using up memory. 
How do you evaluate "better", and what symptoms does it exhibit when it
doesn't work?

167.3The smoker I drink, the player I get.PANGLS::BAILEYThu Jul 21 1988 18:1913
    It was supposed to be a bit of jabberwocky.
    
    This is the situation: When I use TurboDOS, I can't seem to get any
    programs to execute, (random TOS error #foo messages) but copying
    things around works fine.  Fatspeed measurably improves the feel of
    copying a bunch of files from one place on the HD to another, but
    TurboDOS speeds this operation up even more.
    
    Maybe my copy of TurboDOS is bad.  Do you use it with, or without
    FOLDRXX.PRG?  I have tried it both ways with no success (Superboot is a
    great thing).  It is supposed to fix the 40 folder bug, though, right? 
    
    Steph
167.4STAR::HEERMANCEIn Stereo Where AvailableFri Jul 22 1988 09:173
    Is the 40 folder bug 40 folders per drive, or per partition?
    
    Martin H.
167.540 folder folk-lorePANGLS::BAILEYFri Jul 22 1988 09:5420
    It's 40 folders total (!), seen between reboots.  Very dangerous.
    
    Note that folders seen on floppies count, but the folders are flushed
    when you change the disk.
    
    The new GEMDOS will make this limit 40 active folders (folders in
    which or through which a currently open file is found), which seems
    pretty safe to me.
    
    Actually, the number fourty is (I believe) based upon a resonable
    number of Mallocs by other processes.  If you write a program which
    Mallocs a ``resonably large'' number of chunks in memory, the fourty
    will become even smaller, or so someone claimed on the USENET.
    
    There is a small program somewhere around which will print out the
    number of folders that you are currently ``using''.
    
    Steph
    
    
167.6STAR::HEERMANCEIn Stereo Where AvailableFri Jul 22 1988 10:1910
    Re: .5
    
    Does a warm start cause a the number of active folders to be flushed?
    
    What happens when the 40 folder limit is reached?  Or should I even
    bother to ask?  ;^)
    
    Looks like I'll have to get my hands on the folderXX.PRG program.
    
    Martin
167.7BENTLY::MESSENGERAn Index of MetalsFri Jul 22 1988 13:148
    Re: .-1
    
    > What happens when the 40 folder limit is reached?  Or should I even
    > bother to ask?  ;^)

    Premature file system death :-), or so it's reported. It's never
    happened to me, I don't run FOLDRxxx, and I have 60 Mb online.
    				- HBM
167.8More ``info''.PANGLS::BAILEYSun Jul 24 1988 16:4210
    Yes, the folders get flushed on a warm start.
    
    What happens is if the folder limit is reach has been (vaguely)
    described as corruption of file pointers.  If you write, it writes
    the data to more or less random blocks on the disk.  There is no
    error message, and the corruption is claimed to be more or less
    fatal.  But the system does keep running (if bombs is what you mean
    by system death...)
    
    Steph
167.9Must fold, spindle, and mutilate to useMILRAT::WALLACEMon Jul 25 1988 22:139
    For a short time only the file FOLDRXXX.ARC can be copied from
    	MILRAT::DISK$USER3:[WALLACE.PUBLIC.ST]FOLDRXXX.ARC
    
    Unpack the archive, use rename to change the XXX in the file name
    to a number indicating the number of "additional" folders to allow
    for.  IE: Rename FOLDRXXX.PRG to FOLDR100.PRG to allow up to about
    140 folders total on all HD partitions and floppies.
    
    	Ray