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Conference 7.286::atarist

Title:	Atari ST, TT, & Falcon
Notice:	Please read note 1.0 and its replies before posting!
Moderator:	FUNYET::ANDERSON

Created:	Mon Apr 04 1988
Last Modified:	Tue May 06 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	1433
Total number of notes:	10312

59.0. "Has anything happened to MWC ? " by PILOU::ANDERSEN (Hired out ) Tue Apr 26 1988 06:59

    Can somebody help ../explane
    
    My wife and I have decided to buy Mark Williams C, but there seems to
    be a problem to get hold on it.
    My local boutique in Nice declares that it is NOT possible to have
    it. Same result when calling the known houses in Paris he claims.
    He also think its a problem to get it from the states , (hmmm).
    
    All the advertisments in the magasines have it, so ..( finally
    a direct question , hopefully)
    
    - Has anybody heard about if there is hold/shortage on the package of 
      MWC.
    - If so, has it anything to do with the (in this notesfile ? )
      mentioned fact, that there is a MWC v 3.0 comming out. 
     
    If anybody answer, could you also put the local price for the packet
    in, if possible. ?? .. s'il vouz plais  ?
    
    ����Martin

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
59.1	Isn't all software late and over budget?	PRNSYS::LOMICKAJ	Jeff Lomicka	`Tue Apr 26 1988 12:05`	22
	Version 3 is complete and has been sent out by Mark Williams Company for mass production. It should be available in stores soon. I recall that list price is still about $150 for the package containing compiler, shell, assembly language debugger, make, and other Unix-like tools, and an additional approximately $60 for the new source-level debugger. For upgrade customers, they are preparing a kit in fewer disks than the full package, using a data packing scheme and a special program that unpacks the upgraded files onto a copy of your old kit, or some other similar nonsense. The new distribution is on five disks instead of four, and they are trying to reduce distribution costs. When I spoke to their representitive last week, the upgrade kit was not yet complete. [I am amused that a computer store is called a �boutique� there. Here in the U.S., the word is usually used to describe a small shop where you can buy scented candles, perfume soap, and small non-functional pretty things that occupy space on your furniture, and serve only as decoration. I suppopse that until you get a good C compiler, the Atari ST might fit this description.]
59.2	Thanks for info ..	PILOU::ANDERSEN	Relocating my way out	`Wed Apr 27 1988 06:27`	11
	Thanks Jeff .. Might be that I just have to wait for a while then, polling the boutiques in Paris. [BTW, I like your sense of humour, did you know that a common name for a computer store is "Computer butikken" (in denmark). The one in Nice is a video !! shop, with side business; called Holywood Stars !!. And the secrataries answer to what was happening was : " No I am sorry , we don't get that Mark Williams GAME for you ]
59.3		MYRIAD::DEIGHTON		`Wed Apr 27 1988 07:27`	23
	Having had an ST in France since 1985 I've found that getting software is a royal pain! This is particularly true of U.S. and U.K. products that haven't been translated into French......when they are translated by a French distributor the price hike is sometimes a real quantum jump!. In Nice there are a couple of places worth trying if you want more serious software for the ST. One is FNAC in Nice Etoile and the other is the Sorbonne Bookshop in the pedestrian area in Nice (they also stock Megas and demo the laser printer etc), they often have original language U.K. software. There is a specialist micro shop not too far from Nice Etoile but I cannot remember either the name or the address! There is also a dealer in Le Cannet (Apple and Atari) near the top end of Boulevard Carnot...open during the week and Saturday mornings (I can't tell you what selection he has since we spend Saturday morning at Carrefour!). Frankly I use every opportunity I get to pick up what I want when in the U.S. or U.K....there is in fact a reasonable community of ST users in Digital Valbonne (about 6 in my group alone). Cheers, Nigel
59.4	Delayed again, but	PRNSYS::LOMICKAJ	Jeff Lomicka	`Wed Apr 27 1988 11:06`	2
	Mark Williams Company currently expects to begin shipping out the V3 release and upgrade kits early next week.
59.5	Now its only "TIME" I'm missing	PILOU::ANDERSEN	Relocating my way out	`Fri May 27 1988 04:02`	10
	I have now recieved the MWC. It says V2.1.7, so I guess right thing to do, is to send in the registration , and wait for the upgrade offer. Anyway I will not need the upgrade for a while, because this SUPER manual will keep us/me busy for a long time, learning how to use the stuff. I hope the rdy works, when I'm "rdy" to install the beast. PS. Seems like Jeff was right about the ATARI ST functionality before having MWC on hand.