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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

4934.0. "Need help with WILD cat" by DELNI::COZZENS () Fri Sep 13 1991 10:07

    I have a problem with a new cat and want to know if anyone can offer
    some suggestions. 
    
    We got a cat, Ebony, last month.  She is all black, double paws in the
    front, 18 months old now, full of the devil, and used to be both an 
    indoor and outdoor cat.  The people who owned her moved and left her 
    behind so my sister was looking after her, but could not keep her for 
    several reasons.  Well, needless to say, my husband and I decided to 
    take her.  She did not adjust well at first to being an inside cat, but 
    is coming around.  We chose to keep her inside because we live at the 
    intersection of three major roads and don't want to see her get hit.
    
    The problem that we are having is that she can be so nice and sweet
    sitting in your lap or on your shoulder then all of a sudden she'll
    turn on you with claws and teeth.  The teeth don't seem to do much
    damage, but the claws are bad, even though we keep them cut.  The day
    after we got her, she clawed me on both sides of my face, missing my
    left eye by 1/4 of an inch, so I try to steer clear of her when she
    gets in her "moods." 
    
    She got my husband this morning, about 1" right down the side of
    his nose.  Well, he got real angry and said that she has to go, he's
    the one who wanted her in the first place.  I don't really want to get 
    rid of her and we both decided that if we got her declawed, she could 
    stay. 
    
    Now my question. I would like feed back on whether people feel that
    this is right or should we give her to someone who has lots of room and
    no other cats and if this is the opinion, does anyone want her?.  I am 
    really tossed.  I don't want to see her bounced around anymore than she 
    already has been, but I don't want to see her go to a shelter either. 
    She is definitely NOT the cat for the elderly or children. 
    
    Please reply here and I'll check in.  Thanks for any help that is
    offered. 
      
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4934.1Maybe she's ill?AIMHI::BOYKOFri Sep 13 1991 10:4313
    The first thing I would do is bring her to a Vet.  She should be 
    checked over thoroughly, because there may be an underlying cause
    why she is doing this.  I know my male Siamese started this one day,
    and I took him to the Vet to find out that he had an intestinal
    blockage that he was suffering from.  He just got so sick, and didn't
    want to be bothered.  He was never like that until he became ill.
    
    She probably is just having a hard time adjusting to the new
    environment too, and hasn't got your trust yet.  Sometimes it takes
    a few weeks before they settle down.  Be patient, but keep your face
    away from her!
    
    -Nance
4934.2Same problem but biting ...TOOK::ORENSTEINFri Sep 13 1991 12:2821
    
    I'm glad this note was entered.  I too have a similar problem.
    Chomondly was taken from the pound by my siter when he was 8
    weeks.  I had to take him at 10 weeks because her boyfriend's
    dog would try to make a meal of him.  He is now close to 5
    months old and I find him unpredictable.
    
    As a kitty he Loved affection, but now he will be help for just
    a short time and then give a bite.  As a kitty he would nibble
    and it didn't hurt so I didn't do too much to discourage it.  As
    he got to bite more, I didn't know how to discipline him.  I tried
    holding him at waiste level and dropping him.  My vet said that it
    would have no affect and that I should hit him on the nose with
    something that makes a loud noise.  For a while I couldn't get my
    self to hit my kitty.  Now he BITES! and I have started being more
    firm, but I want him to like me.
    
    Help, I want my kitty to stay as a kitty.
    
    aud...
    
4934.3TENAYA::KOLLINGKaren/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca.Fri Sep 13 1991 15:2719
    In order:
    
    1.  A vet visit to rule out medical problems.
    
    2. Is there a particular area of hte cat that is off limits?  Many
       cats will not tolerate their stomachs or backs near the tail
       being touched.  Solution; don't touch.
    
    3. Some cats will get overexcited after a bit of petting (that sounds
    like what's happening with these two cats), and it you continue they
    will lash out.  With a small amount of practice you can recognize when
    this is starting to happen -- the cat's body will tense up or he or she
    will get a wild look in their eye.  When you see those signs, stop
    petting the animal.  That's probably sufficient, but you can gently
    get up and so (gently) dump the cat off your lap or whatever.  Do not
    engage in "punishment" as this will make the situation worse.  Some
    cats are just this way, and you can have a comfortable relationship if
    you adapt.
    
4934.4BOOVX2::MANDILEI love readin' & ridin'Mon Sep 16 1991 10:308
    Re . Biting.....
    
    We flicked Casey in the nose when he bit....
    
    His biting is now a rare thing....usually if
    he is aggrevated, or startled.
    
    L-
4934.5SA1794::DOWSEYKKirk Dowsey 243-2440Tue Sep 17 1991 18:325
    
    Cindy used to be a "love bug" one minute, and then "coil-up and
    strike like a rattle snake" the next. She stopped acting like
    that after she was spayed.
    
4934.6CRUISE::NDCPutiput Scottish Folds DTN:297-2313Wed Sep 18 1991 08:5416
    I want to caution you that a cat's nose is VERY fragile and
    sensitive.  A simple "tap" is sufficient for admonishment.  Do NOT
    hit a cat with a newspaper or something like that on the nose.
    
    Another thought - keep a squirt bottle nearby and squirt the cat
    when it bites you.
    
    That is AFTER you have ruled out any sort of physical problem.
    
    Also, at 5 months old a male's hormones cat be coming into play.
    One effect of testosterone is increased aggression.  Perhaps its
    time for him to be neutered.
    
    CHECK WITH YOUR VET.
      Nancy DC
    
4934.7TOOK::ORENSTEINThu Sep 19 1991 14:5017
    
    I tried the water approach to keep him off the furniture.  He
    is now well trained to stay off the leather furniture and we
    let him play on the other furniture.  As he got older he started
    climing on the kitchen table, so I got out the trusty water gun.
    Now, he's a smart kitty and he just stands there with this look
    like "You think water scares me? Huh!".   So I had to start shoot-
    ing him in the face.  He just closes his eyes and bears with it.
    
    It probably is the hormones.  He'll be fixed in just a couple of
    short weeks.
    
    Now if only I can get him to make all his poops in his box instead
    of my white w-to-w carpetting that was installed the day I got him.
    
    aud...
    
4934.8ICE WATERFORTSC::WILDEwhy am I not yet a dragon?Thu Sep 19 1991 20:3510
ice water.  Yep, it's cold.  But, it works....even for stubborn old Missy
Hannah.  I keep a squirt bottle in the fridge when one of my older kids
starts misbehavin.  They get one warning.  Next time, COLD WATER in the
butt.  It seldom takes a third time.  

Yes...I am a cruel cat pet....but they still love me...I know because
Missy Hannah ran up to me this morning, looked up at me with adoring
eyes....and hacked up a fur ball on my bare foot.  Nice way to start
my day.  I'm sure I heard The Flash and Dilly snickering in the
background, but I can't be sure...
4934.9Ahhhh ha ha ha ha ha!!MCIS2::HUSSIANChristmas is only 14 weeks away!!Fri Sep 20 1991 14:404
    Dian....You just gave me a great laugh!!!
    
    Thanks,
    Bonnie