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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:	Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:	FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:	MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO

Created:	Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:	Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	5089
Total number of notes:	60366

4895.0. "Kittens are dying very quickly" by FRAGLE::PELUSO (PAINTS; color your corral) Tue Sep 03 1991 09:27

    My girlfriend's cat had 4 kittens.  As of last nite 2 of them 
    had dies, and a third was on it's way.  She called a vet and I was
    kinda horrified to hear what the vet had to say....He said that the 
    tom probably had Felv, and the kittens were dying from it.  That sounds
    a little far fetched to me.  From listening to you folks, I would guess
    they had an upper resporitory thing.....they wern't breathing real
    well, gums and paw pads were pale, and generally listless.
    
    THe fourth one seemed healthy, so she isolated it from the others,
    and started feeding it KMR and baby cereal.
    
    Is the vets suggestion off the wall, or what?  He did want them to
    bring the kitten in, but just to walk in the door on a holiday would
    have been $60 (more than they could have spent).....
    
    Would it be worth trying to save the fourth, or will he die anyway?
    Any suggestions?  comments?
    
    Michele

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
4895.1	Call another vet	DEMON::MURPHY		`Tue Sep 03 1991 10:25`	2
	Try another vet.
4895.2		BOOVX1::MANDILE	Her Royal Highness	`Tue Sep 03 1991 10:48`	6
	Is the momcat healthy and up to date on her shots? Distemper can wipe out a litter, and the male might have had it, or a virus, or something worse..... Lynne
4895.3	reclaimed from the bit-bucket	EMASS::SKALTSIS	Deb	`Tue Sep 03 1991 20:03`	18
	<<< VAXWRK::$1$DUS6:[NOTES$LIBRARY]FELINE.NOTE;1 >>> -< Meower Power >- ================================================================================ Note 4895.3 Kittens are dying very quickly 3 of 3 WR2FOR::CORDESBRO_JO "set home/cat_max=infinity" 0 lines 3-SEP-1991 14:45 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Or it might have been that the kittens are dying from blood type incompatibility. Lots of different things can kill newborn kittens. The best way to protect the remaining kitten is to isolate her (which you have done), and possibly necropsy one of the deceased kittens to find a cause of death. If the kittens were showing any signs of upper respiratory, then the remaining baby may need antibiotics. Also, aren't pale gums (white) an indication of shock? Blue gums would be poor circulation and lack of oxygen I think. Someone with a nurse background might be able to tell you this for sure. Jo
4895.4		COASTL::NDC	Putiput Scottish Folds DTN:297-2313	`Wed Sep 04 1991 09:16`	1
	I believe pale gums are a sign of anemia as well as shock.
4895.5	"FLEAS"	FROSTY::JORDAN		`Wed Sep 04 1991 11:06`	2
	I lost 5 kittens to anemia caused by fleas....the mother was a stray and the kittens were too young to treat....it was terrible!!
4895.6	any news or diagnosis?	MCIS2::HUSSIAN	But my cats ARE my kids!!	`Wed Sep 04 1991 13:00`	7
	Michelle---> How is everything? Have yu heard anything from your friend or the vet? I'm very sorry to hear about the kitties... Bonnie
4895.7	Update	FRAGLE::PELUSO	PAINTS; color your corral	`Wed Sep 04 1991 13:56`	6
	Three of the four have died. The fourth is holding her own. In fact they feel she is doing much better. Only time will tell. They were going to call a vet to come check her out. The flea thing sounds like a possibility....what were the symptoms?
4895.8	flea infestation anemia is awful	WR2FOR::CORDESBRO_JO	set home/cat_max=infinity	`Wed Sep 04 1991 14:20`	9
	The symptoms of flea anemia in young kittens are kittens that are covered with fleas and being literally eaten alive. Young kittens cannot afford to lose the kind of blood an infestation of fleas can steal from them. The newborns can be washed with warm water and a mild soap, and have the fleas picked off by hand or with a flea comb. Jo
4895.9	rule out the fleas	FRAGLE::PELUSO	PAINTS; color your corral	`Thu Sep 05 1991 08:57`	3
	well I don't think that was it.....they wern't infested.....but then again I guess it depends on your own particular definition. We've picked a flea or two off from time to time......nothing major.