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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

4806.0. "Retarded kitten needs a new home..." by SHARE::SMITH (HIS WILL > my will...) Tue Jul 23 1991 11:02

    
    ****************FREE KITTEN***************************
    
    We need help!!!  We have 4 cats, and our landlord just decided he
    didn't want us to have them in the house any more.  3 of the cats are
    self-sufficient adults that can take care of themselves outside.  The
    fourth cat is a kitten of one of the others.  She was the runt of the
    litter, and is retarded. (Yes, it is possible!!)
    
    She's all black, with a small white spot on her chest.  She's really
    very cute.  She has a habit of sticking her tongue out, which makes her
    look even more stupid than she is!  She's very cuddly, and loves to be
    held.  Her hips were displaced when she was born, and for the first few
    weeks she could only walk in circles.  She's pretty small, (she's
    almost six months old), and it looks like she'll never get very big. 
    We named her "Half-pint".
    
    My sister is very upset at having to give this cat away.  She's like
    our baby, and she was so small and sick, they never thought she'd live. 
    Anyway, she needs a really good home, where someone will really love
    her, and where they don't mind having a warm fur ball to sleep with!
    
    If you're interested in adopting Half-pint, contact my sister (Suellen)
    at MR4DEC::SMITHS.  **DO NOT CONTACT ME!!**  Today is my last day!!
    Her DTN is 297-7380.
    
    Thank you...
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4806.1JUPITR::KAGNOTo cats, all things belong to catsTue Jul 23 1991 12:5010
    I believe what your landlord is doing is illegal.  He can't just decide
    something without legalizing it first.  If your lease doesn't specify
    no cats then you should still be entitled to keep them unless he draws
    up a new lease and you sign it accordingly.
    
    I hope the outdoor cats are fixed.  This will ensure that the cats
    don't multiply and further aggrevate your landlord.
    
    Good luck in placing Half Pint!
    
4806.2SSVAX::DALEYTue Jul 23 1991 16:594
    Is there some kind of legal limit re: the number of cats a household
    can have before it becomes a business? Maybe that is what the landlord 
    is concerned about.
    
4806.3What is limit?MEDDOC::MURPHYTue Jul 23 1991 17:105
    What is the limit before it's a business?  Maybe I have a business and
    don't know about it. :-)
    
    Pat + 7
    
4806.4WR2FOR::CORDESBRO_JOset home/cat_max=infinityTue Jul 23 1991 17:1311
    Most California cities and counties have ordinances that limit the
    number of pets that any given household can have living with it.  Our
    town limits the number of pets to two.  
    
    My feeling is that the landlord in this case was more concerned about
    his property than about city or county ordinances.
    
    Also, the number of animals isn't what constitutes a business.  Whether
    or not any profit was being made would be the deciding factor.
    
    Jo
4806.5MEDDOC::MURPHYTue Jul 23 1991 17:335
    
    
    Guess I'm safe then re. profit.  Only ones making a profit are the vet
    and people I buy their food/supplies from.
    
4806.6What!!!PARITY::DENISEAnd may the traffic be with youTue Jul 23 1991 17:498
      RE: .4
    
            You have an ordinace that forbids you to have more than 2
    animals???????!!!!!  Oh Gosh,  I could never live there!   What is
    their reasoning?   No wonder there is so many homeless animals...
    the people that want to have more can't.  How sad for everyone
    involved.
    
4806.7enforcement of limits is laxTYGON::WILDEwhy am I not yet a dragon?Tue Jul 23 1991 18:4726
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>            You have an ordinace that forbids you to have more than 2
>    animals???????!!!!!  Oh Gosh,  I could never live there!   What is
>    their reasoning?   No wonder there is so many homeless animals...
>    the people that want to have more can't.  How sad for everyone
>    involved.
    
in San Jose, the ordinance is seldom enforced IF, and only IF, the animals
are not a nuisance to the neighborhood.  Cats that are allowed to roam
free are considered a nuisance and if a complaint is filed, the owner
can be limited back down to 2 cats/dogs (at least in my neighborhood
this is the case, but we do have an endangered species of bird nesting in our
area and that may make a difference).  Of course, there is also a leash law...
and that is also enforced for cats if the cats become a nuisance.  If the
cats are indoor-only, and the house is not a rental, then noone ever raises
the issue....I should know, we live with 3 cats and a dog right now...and
I'm going to pick up my new "baby" any day now....I'll post an introduction
as soon as she is settled in.

BTW, I don't know any animal lover who has only 2 animals....usually the
number runs around 2 -4 cats and then a dog or two.  The reason there are
so many homeless animals is because people do not limit the birth rate of
their pets.  They continue to believe that "one litter won't hurt"....
multiply that attitude by the hundreds of thousands of residents of
Silicon Valley who are pet owners....it doesn't take a genius at math to
figure out where the unwanted pet animals come from. 
4806.8SSVAX::DALEYTue Jul 23 1991 21:016
    Re. .7 well, actually I do know animal lovers who have only one animal-
    sometimes that is all they can afford - and sometimes it is a stretch
    of funds even for that one critter.  
    
    But I think we are getting away from the base note - there is a little
    kitten who needs a home. Hopefully he will soon find a home.
4806.9Pet Permits in SF?SANFAN::FOSSATJUWed Jul 24 1991 13:0214
    Jo;
    
    Up in S.F. I understand that you have to get a permit for over 4 cats -
    but I believe you are allowed up to 4 - but I've never heard or known
    of anyone getting a permit.
    
    My landlady got upset when we added our third cat and since she's
    enforced a "no Pets" to incomming renters - however - even thought she
    did put up a fuss and hinted that one had to go - she never told us to
    get rid of him(them).  Her son-in-law is in real-estate and I'm sure
    has filled her in on the laws as she never put a limit on the # of
    animals we could have when we moved in.
    
    Giudi
4806.101/2 pintMCIS2::HUSSIANBut my cats *ARE* my kids!!Tue Jul 30 1991 15:0917
    Has anyone responded to Sue Ellen? I'm wondering if Half Pint has found
    a new home yet? I'll have to ask Sue Ellen when I see her, if anything
    has changed w/ the land lord. I can't believe him either, but who would
    WANT to fight this jerk & continue living under HIS roof?! Certainly
    not ME! He could make her life a living hell if he wanted to, and with
    perfectly legal circumstances, I might add!
    
    I really hope 1/2 pint finds a home. She's a little DOLL! I almost took
    her when she was 6 weeks, but she was  found a home (which ended up
    not working out because the people coulnd't keep her) by the time I
    came to look at her. I ended up taking Callie, her sister, who turned
    out to be a MOOSE! I LOVE CALLIE, but feel bad now, because if I had 
    taken half pint, this problem wouldn't have happened! :*(
    
    Any word?
    
    Bonnie
4806.11CRUISE::NDCPutiput Scottish Folds DTN:297-2313Wed Jul 31 1991 08:4911
    I send some mail concerning the tenants rights in this situation but
    have received NO reply.  Perhaps Sue isn't interested in hearing from
    anyone but someone interested in half-pint.  Sometimes when folks
    have considered all the options and made the painful decision to
    place the cat they would rather not explain the situation to others.
    
    If anyone has any news on this situation please post it.  I have also
    been thinking about half-pint.  Wish my house wasn't quite so full
    at the moment.
      Nancy DC