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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

4795.0. "Racoons and Cats" by FSOA::NGRILLO () Mon Jul 15 1991 17:58

    We live in an extremely residential area and have come to realize that
    we can a racoon(s) visiting us.  We keep our trash under the back porch
    which has a wooden gate that encloses the trash (along with the back
    porch acting as a covering) but for the past 3 weeks we have found our
    trash wripped to shreds and have seen the racoon prints.  I really
    don't know how they're getting in there because you have to swing the
    wooden gate up towards you to gain access to the trash and the wood has
    a design that gives it a 1/4" opening design.
    
    Anyway, my biggest fear are MY 2 cats.  They do have a tendency to stay
    out all night in this weather and my male can become "cocky" when it
    comes to his turf.  Question is, would (I would assume they CAN kill) kill a
    cat?     I don't believe in poisoning any animal and I've heard about
    the "Have a Heart" trap but is there something else to maybe just keep
    this racoon(s) away from my house?  My husband even commented he'd keep
    cleaning up the trash because he too doesn't believe in killing this
    animal and obviously because we are residential I'm assuming this poor
    animal is hungry (he does get quite a feast from our house!).  Someone
    did suggest spraying the trash with amonia???
    
    Like I said, my biggest concern is for my babies safety!!  They're my
    first priority in this.
    
    Any suggestions???
    
    Thanks to all of you!!
    
    
    Nancy
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4795.1TENAYA::KOLLINGKaren/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca.Mon Jul 15 1991 18:579
    I would raccoon-proof the trash.  It isn't clear to me from your note
    if it is in metal cans, or what.  Yes, raccoons can attack cats.  As
    long as the trash is easy pickings, the racoons will go after that and
    stay around rather than use their natural sources of food.
    
    Try a padlock on the gate, if I'm visualizing it corectly.  One of
    those metal ones that you can get in a bicycle shop, with a key
    that you can leave near by.
    
4795.2WILLEE::MERRITTTue Jul 16 1991 09:4819
    Around my area we have racoons, opposums, and skunks.  Even though
    my cats are only allowed out during the day (mom's rule)...I have
    seen the wild animals and my stray cats I feed sitting on my
    porch together munching out on food.   I was truly amazed to
    see Van Gogh (cat)...and a skunk sitting side by side.
    
    We have had to wild-animal proof our trash area.  We brought
    the big plastic trash containers that have lids that snap on...
    we also put a lock on the door of the shed.  I have heard of
    bungy cords around the lids work well too!
    
    I truly believe the wild animals would attack a cat...but I feel
    it would only be if the cat put them in a prediment where they
    thought their life was in danger.  Please be careful...I'm not
    sure where you live...but many areas have found the racoons 
    have rabies this year.  
    
    Sandy
    
4795.3FRAGLE::PELUSOPAINTS; color your corralTue Jul 16 1991 09:596
    Sandy
    
    Nippa has a skunk friend too!  What is it w/ these cats?
    
    Michele & Nippa
    
4795.4WILLEE::MERRITTTue Jul 16 1991 10:1311
    Michele...it scared the heck out of me.  I put the light on
    the porch figuring the skunk would run away...but the stray
    is the one that ran away and the skunk sat there and ate.
    We then tapped on the window...and he just looked at us!
    What a nerve on those little stinkers!    
    
    All the wild animals love the cat food.   The especially like
    Hills Science Diet...but it's a bit expensive for the wild life.
    
    Sandy
           
4795.5Raccoons & CatsGNUVAX::KARENKTue Jul 16 1991 13:0119
    I have 3 cats and raccoons that visit the trash every night.  My cats
    have never been hurt by the raccoons and my "big guy" Morris is always
    up to no good.  He just watches the raccoons while they go thru my
    trash.  The raccoons are little guys so they just throw themselves in
    the trash can and go to it.  
    
    I have the Rubbermaid trash cans and the raccoons just snap off the lid
    and get at it.  We have also tried putting bungy cords over the top and
    they just took that off also.
    
    We have tried spraying the trash cans with amonia.  That did work for a
    couple of days.  We never kept on re-applying it.
    
    Good Luck.  These little guys are tough to get rid of once they find a
    good eating spot.
    
    /karen
    
    
4795.6Wonder if it was rabid?BOOBER::PELUSOPAINTS; color your corralTue Jul 16 1991 13:367
    I just remembered about our barn raccoons.....these buggers have been 
    getting into grain and cat food for a long time.  These guyes are fat!
    We tried to raccoon proof the grain bins, and the coons got real mad
    and trashed the place.....big time.  They pooped all over the place and 
    ripped up and knocked over all sorts of stuff.  The next morning, one
    cornered my friend.....fortunatly her dad was there to bob it on the
    head with a shovel......but the others are still around.
4795.7BOOVX2::MANDILELynne - a.k.a. Her Royal HighnessTue Jul 16 1991 13:414
    Sprinkle some sudsy ammonia around the trash.  It will
    keep any animal away from the trash! :-)
     
    L
4795.8watch those kitties!PARITY::DENISEAnd may the traffic be with youTue Jul 16 1991 16:456
    Yes, if you are in the northeast, there is a high incidence of rabies
    in the wild life this year.  In my location rabid raccoons have been
    found. Raccoons are unbelievably devious and clever.  And they are
    certainly capable of killing a cat.
    
            
4795.9Thanks for your suggestions!FSOA::NGRILLOWed Jul 17 1991 13:3925
    Thank you for all your replies!
    
    I am from the Northeast (Shrewsbury, MA).  I absolutely agree with you
    that racoons are extremely clever because in order to get to the trash
    they would have lift a gate type of cover to get under the porch and at
    the trash.  Even when I'm pulling it up  you have to stand back to get
    clearance and it isn't light either.
    
    What my husband has done is put bricks against it so now I'll wait and
    see if they're smart enough to move the bricks and then open it.  I'm
    also going to get some canisters for the trash (right now they're just
    in trash bags (with the area they're in no animal has ever gotten into
    them "3 years now") and also start putting ammonia around the
    cannisters.
    
    I also wasn't aware that we (in the N.E.) have that much rabies around
    but my 2 cats do have their shots for some protection.  I'm also going to
    keep my babies in at night for awhile until I can be sure that the
    racoon(s) have moved on.
    
    
    Thanks again for your help!!
    
    Nancy, Ralph, & Alice
    
4795.10In the long run, it is cheeper/easier to just feed themEMASS1::SKALTSISDebFri Jul 19 1991 13:4510
    Maybe I'm crazy, but when it comes to wild animals I'm of the if you
    can't beat 'em, join 'em school. I *had* a problem with raccoons going
    through the trash, etc. I got one of those feeders for outdoors (that
    has a door that swings so the food doesn't get wet if it rains, and I
    fill that with corn. A 50 lb bag of corn only costs $6 at Agway and it
    lasts about a month. In my estimation, it is a cheep price to pay not
    to have the raccoons go though the trash every night (and it provides
    the cats with plenty of visual stimulation, too).

    Deb
4795.11USDEV1::NDCPutiput Scottish Folds DTN:297-2313Wed Jul 24 1991 14:165
    Deb, I like your solution.  
    
    Nancy - I also think you are very wise to keep the cats in at night.