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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

4769.0. "UNSEEN COUNTER WRONG..." by JURAN::MILES () Wed Jul 03 1991 17:38

    this doesn't necessarily go here...but since noone else knows....the
    UNSEEN counter on my notes are incorrect and keep changing....some
    notes don't show up until  later on in the day...
    
    i.e.  with this notesfile...
    
    this afternoon at about 2:00 I updated FELINE and read the notes.
    
    Then I just updated it again (at 4:30) and it showed new notes from 8am
    this morning.  The notes I was reading at 2:00 were written up until
    about noontime.  I don't understand what is going on.  Can anyone help
    me?
    
    michele
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4769.1TENAYA::KOLLINGKaren/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca.Wed Jul 03 1991 18:1934
    The unseen stuff displayed out in the directory listing that you
    see before you open a conference is implemented incorrectly
    (Someone once referred to this as a "just kidding" list.)  The
    "right way" to read is as follows:
    
    One time only, issue the command 
    
        set profile/auto=unseen
    
    This will tell Notes that when you open a conference such as FELINE,
    you want notes to automatically display the first note you haven't
    yet read.
    
    Then whenever you want to read FELINE, type "Open feline" (you probably
    can abbreviate this to op fel).  You have at least two ways to proceed
    after feline opens up:
    
    1.  If it says "No more new notes" there's nothing new.
    
    2.  If it displays a note, you can read any subsequent replies to that
    note by hitting carriage return.  If you aren't interested in reading
    any more replies, you can go on to the next unseen note by typing "next
    unseen" or "n u"
    
    Of course, you can stop reading at any time and type exit, and notes
    will remember which notes you still haven't read;  they'll show up they next
    time you open feline again.
    
    You can also read specific notes in the middle of next unseening by
    specifying their numbers, etc, or you can write replies and all that
    stuff, and "n u" will still properly know to get the next unseen stuff
    when you ask it to.
    
                                                             
4769.2YES, BUT....JURAN::MILESFri Jul 05 1991 00:5311
    Thanks for the info, but.....
    
    Let me try to be more specific...
    
    An example....Why would a note located using NEXT UNSEEN (let's say at
    4pm) be written before a note located using NEXT UNSEEN (let's say at
    10am) the same day.....
    
    I'm wondering if it's a system problem here or a problem with NOTES.
    
    MICHELE
4769.3sometimes it gets complicatedFORTSC::WILDEwhy am I not yet a dragon?Sun Jul 07 1991 17:2822
>    An example....Why would a note located using NEXT UNSEEN (let's say at
>    4pm) be written before a note located using NEXT UNSEEN (let's say at
>    10am) the same day.....
    
if a note has been set hidden temporarily the sequence in which you
find UNSEEN notes would be affected....there are also some funny things
that seem to happen when we blithly note across time zones...I've seen
them, and never bothered to try and target them specifically because they
don't seem to stop the use of the product nor prevent me from seeing notes.
I've also seen situations where I have walked through the unseen new notes
and gracefully exited...only to find that the next time I go to the same
conference, i get the same unseen notes....shouldn't happen...and, as i
cannot make it consistently happen, i cannot file an SPR.  I do know that
when we are in the western US or other parts of the world, and we are
accessing a conference in the NE USA, we can be "skipping" through other
interim systems - and IF THOSE INTERIM SYSTEMS ARE RUNNING A DIFFERENT
VERSION OF VMS THAN EITHER YOUR SYSTEM OR THE HOST SYSTEM FOR THE
NOTES CONFERENCE - we may see some slight "wiggles" in how things work...
at least, it seems that is the problem when i try and hunt it down.

If your problem is consistent, talk to your system manager...and maybe
you'll get to file an SPR.
4769.4thanxJURAN::MILESSun Jul 07 1991 19:123
    thank you very much....
    
    mlm