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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

4568.0. "INFLAMED LIVER........I Got the K/D Blues" by NEWPRT::SZAFIRSKI_LO () Fri Apr 19 1991 16:03

    Well my little Sausha who is almost 16 years old got her teeth cleaned
    this morning.  I just got off the phone with the vet and he told me
    Sausha did fine witht the sedation.  He always runs a blood panel prior
    to doing the procedure, so he can make sure everything looks okay.
    
    The good news was that her kidneys look great!  I was quite pleased
    hearing this knowing that kidneys can bring on many problems for aging
    cats.
    
    The not so good news is he said that her liver was inflamed and he
    wants me to start her on K/D...aaaggggghhhhhhhhh!!!  Sausha lives for
    her mealtimes and we tried the Science Diet..C/D route a couple of
    years ago and her attutude was "I would rather starve!".
    
    So for starters if anybody knows anything about inflamed livers on
    older cats and could ease my fears about this getting worse, I would
    really love to hear from you.
    
    Also, if anybody knows any creative way to make the K/D easier to go
    down, like something that would help the dryness and add a little more 
    flavor...Sausha would love to hear from you!
    
    Mildly Distressed Mom....Sausha * Misty Rae * Freeway
                                                                          
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4568.1WR2FOR::CORDESBRO_JOset home/cat_max=infinityFri Apr 19 1991 17:5310
    How 'bout adding some raw egg yolk (no whites, cats cannot digest them)
    to her dry K/D?  Be sure and check with the vet before doing this to
    make sure that it won't compound her problem.  It might make the K/D
    much more palatable to her, and will help her coat look shiny and
    healthy.
    
    Did the blood panel show any abnormal liver function?  Was the inflamed
    liver diagnosed by palpation or blood work?  
    
    Jo
4568.2CRUISE::NDCPutiput Scottish Folds DTN:297-2313Mon Apr 22 1991 09:297
    Jo,
      Don't egg whites contain a protein called Albumen?  If that's the
    case I don't know as you'd want to add it to K/D as that's a protein
    restricted diet.  
    
    I'd be very interested to hear what the vet says.
      Nancy
4568.3PROSE::GOGOLINMon Apr 22 1991 09:5233
    Congratulations on Sausha's healthy kidneys! :-) The possibility of kidney 
    failure is always a worry with older cats so it's nice to know they're in
    good shape. 
    
    I don't have any experience with liver problems, but I do with K/D. Misty, 
    who is almost 17, was diagnosed with kidney failure last December, and 
    has been on K/D since then. Up to that time she had been eating C/D dry 
    and loved it. I bought canned K/D instead of dry because at $17 a bag I 
    didn't want to have to give it away if she didn't like it. 

    I had some problems getting her used to the K/D at first. Sometimes I
    had to mix in a few kibbles of C/D or a teaspoonful of Gerber baby chicken
    to get her to eat the whole portion. She is eating the K/D fine now and 
    seems to like the way I fix it, microwaved, chopped up, with some water 
    mixed in. She laps up the "juice" with bits of food, then waits for me 
    to add more water to the food that's left. We repeat this process until 
    she finishes it all. It takes her a couple of hours to eat a meal, as 
    she takes a 15 to 30 minute break between nibbles! 

    The funny thing is, the vet said sometimes cats don't want to eat the 
    K/D because it's unpalatable, but I think it's only unpalatable to those 
    who *have* to eat it -- all my other cats would dive right into Misty's 
    dish if I let them! 

    As an alternative, the vet gave me a recipe for a homemade diet (designed 
    by Hills, I believe), mainly hamburger and rice. I tried it once, but 
    Misty preferred the K/D. If you're interested, you could probably get 
    the recipe from your vet, or I can send it to you and you can check it 
    with your vet. 

    Wishing you good luck and many long, happy years with Sausha!

    Linda
4568.4Sausha Is Doing Great....and LOVES her K/D!!NEWPRT::SZAFIRSKI_LOMon Apr 22 1991 12:1843
    I was sooooo very happy to pick up Sausha on Friday night.  The anxiety
    a "Mom" goes thru while her baby is having one of these procedures is 
    really tough.  It made me smile when I got into the vets office and I 
    could hear Sausha talking above all the other animals that were in the
    back section in the cages.  She looked great!
    
    Re: .1
    
    Jo, .... I asked the vet about the raw egg yolk and he said "No".  His
    main concern seemed to be around the cholesterol from the egg yolk.  He
    does a blood test which checks for abnormalities in relation to the
    amount of sedation he is going to use.  He said the test showed the
    liver was inflamed, but not on the serious end.  He wants me to put
    Sausha on the K/D for a month and then bring her back in so he can run
    a more extensive blood panel focused on just the liver.  He feels that
    the inflamation can be corrected by diet.  
    
    I guess that I jumped the gun in thinking that Sausha would go on
    strike when I served her K/D.  She gobbled it up Friday night, which I
    figured was due to the fact that she hadn't eaten all day and was in no
    mood to be picky.  So Saturday morning I served the dry K/D and she ate
    that too!  Saturday night I served wet again and she made not a face.
    
    The vet said if she puts up a fuss just to mix 1/2 to 1  ounce of her
    favorite food (which of course comes in small little cans) into the
    K/D.  I did this on Sunday and she cleaned her bowl.  So I think we are
    going to be okay with the K/D.  
    
    He also gave me some mouth wash to use on her gums/teeth.  She had a
    pretty good gum infection (lots of yellow on upper gums), but when I
    picked her up most of it was gone.  He also gave her a shot of
    antibiotics.
    
    Thanks Linda for all the tips on the K/D, the baby food was a new one
    for me but sounds like a good idea!
    
    The worst part of this turned out to be bringing Sausha home to her two
    sisters, who growled and hissed and you would have thought I brought a
    Doberman into the house...took about two days for them to figure out it
    was Sausha...guess it takes a while to get the Vet-Smell off!
    
    ...Lori * Sausha * Misty Rae * Freeway