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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

4556.0. "Scar/sore from vaccination?" by MCIS2::HUSSIAN (But my cats *ARE* my kids!!) Tue Apr 16 1991 19:46

    Has anyone noticed a small ( and LONG lasting ) sore under the neck,
    on the right side of your kitten after imunization? We have noticed
    this little hard scab-like sore on Tabithas neck for several months.
    We have asked the vet about it, & he said it was just a little sore,it
    would go away, no worries, etc. So the thing (almost a year later is
    still there) & we never knew what it was.
    
    WELL....we just brought our flawless little luv, Callie to the doctors
    for her shots & Felv test, they brought her out to the Lab to give her
    the shot, & when she came back, her chin was all soaked w/ alchohol,
    from the shot they'd given her. I didn't realize that's where they give
    the shot, so I never thought of it, but now Callie has the SAME sore in
    the SAME spot. YOu can feel kind of an oblong shaped scar, or something
    too. There is ABSOLUTLY NO DOUBT IN MY MIND that this was caused from
    the shot, & while it may be perfectly harmless, I want to know why it's
    taken SO long for Tab to heal, & why my vet didn't know what it was!?!
    
    Anyone else have this happen? BTW-->you really have to look for it on 
    Tabitha now that she's older, but Callie is only a couple of months
    old, so it's very obvious when you rub under her neck.
    
    Any input would be appreciated.
    thanks,
    Bonnie
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4556.1"no - but I'm interestedSANFAN::FOSSATJUTue Apr 16 1991 20:1716
    Bonnie:
    
    I'm always present when my cats receive their injections and the shots
    are not given under the neck, they are given in the area sort of below
    the scruff/between the shoulders - the skin there is loose and the vet
    lifts it up and injects the needle and I've never felt a scab or
    anything as a result.  They did take the cats back to the lab to draw
    blood for the Felv test and for other procedures but booster shots that
    are part of a yearly check up have always been administered in our
    presence.  
    
    This is the first time that I've heard of an injection being given
    under the neck and am interested to hear if other cats are being given
    their shots there.
    
    Giudi +3
4556.2SANFAN::FOSSATJUTue Apr 16 1991 20:334
    opps, I forgot to mention this in .1, maybe it's from where they draw
    the blood for the Felv test and not from the shot.
    
    Giudi
4556.3Possibly a hematomaWR2FOR::CORDESBRO_JOset home/cat_max=infinityTue Apr 16 1991 21:0427
Bon,

The area that you describe sounds like the area that a vet would use to extract
blood for a Felv test. They pull it from the jugular in some vet offices.  It is
also more likely that that is what happened since you mentioned that the area
was wet with alcohol when the cat came back out.  Most vet will usually scrub
the neck with alcohol before drawing blood, but most vets will not scrub the 
area with alcohol when giving routine vaccinations.  Routine vaccinations are
generally given at the scruff, between the shoulder blades, unless the vaccine
is supposed to be given IM (in the muscle) like some rabies shots.

As for what this is on your cat's necks, if your cats did have blood drawn
from their jugulars for Felv testing, it could be a hematoma.  A hematoma is
a small  swelling filled with blood that can occur after a blood is drawn from
a vein (or is it artery or is it both?).  Anyway, call your vet and ask him.  He
may not know what it is cuz he may not have noticed that one formed.  Generally
a tech will press on the spot after the needle is extracted to help prevent
a hematoma from forming, but if the cat is wiggling all around it is difficult.
I usually have the vet extract all blood from the inner thigh of my cats.  It 
seems to be easier to restrain them for that kind of a draw, and if they get a 
hematoma it is in an unnoticeable place.

Just keep bugging the vet about it and I am sure he will figure out that this 
is important to you and get to the bottom of it.  Sometimes you have to remind
them that they are here to help us. :^)

Jo
4556.4CRUISE::NDCPutiput Scottish Folds DTN:297-2313Wed Apr 17 1991 09:099
    Bumpytail just had blood drawn for a routine kidney/liver series and
    they shaved the area under her neck and drew the blood from there.
    (And I helped!  - Actually I just helped hold her but it was
    interesting).  I suspect Jo is right and all it is is a hematoma.
    But I agree - bug the vet if you are worried.  That's what the vet
    is for.
      Nancy DC
    
    
4556.5Thanks!MCIS2::HUSSIANBut my cats *ARE* my kids!!Wed Apr 17 1991 09:1629
    Giudi & Jo --->
    
    Thanks for your replies! Now that you mention it, we WERE present when
    Tabitha had her Boosters, & the DID in fact inject that pink stuff into
    the back, sorta between the shoulder blades. The sore must be from
    where they drew blood for the leukemia test. Also, I'm sure that when
    they gave her the test they weren't able to prevent the hematoma, cuz
    she was SCREAMING her little head off! It was amazing how loud she was!
    I'm sure she was pretty wiggly too!
    
    Jo-->You say you have blood taken from an area that will not be
    as noticable if hematoma occurs. From this I gather that it isn't harm-
    ful to the cat (provided that it doesn't get infected) & I'm just being
    a worrysome mom?! I hope that's true!
    
    If they were outdoor cats, I could understand a cut or scrape now &
    then, but they're strictly indoors, so I worry! I'm still going to take 
    this up w/ my vet & make him realize that I WANT TO KNOW FOR SURE, DARN
    IT! It's really a shame that sometimes I feel as though my vet thinks
    I'm a pain. (I only go on scheduled booster visits, flea dips, & if
    they're sick.) I SPEND BIG BUCKS at the vet, EVERYTIME I go there! I
    feel like saying to him (He clearly DOES love the critters, but I can't
    help but feel rushed, I forget my questions, etc..)"Hey, buddy for the
    MONEY I'm spending here, you could explain things to me better, or take
    the time to check out the things I've pointed out to you!"
    
    Maybe I should...
    
    Bonnie
4556.6CRUISE::NDCPutiput Scottish Folds DTN:297-2313Wed Apr 17 1991 11:446
    Let's face it, there are plenty of doctors, dentists and vets who
    have fabulous technical skills but are a bit lacking in the "bedside
    manner".
      You have a right to know. Just be polite and persistent and chalk
    his attitude up to lack of people skills.
      Nancy
4556.7SANFAN::FOSSATJUWed Apr 17 1991 14:5613
    Sometimes I've got a whole list of things in my head that I want to ask
    and then I only end up getting to one or two because we end up chatting
    about other things (our vet is also a personal friend).  So by the time
    I get home I remember what I forgot - now I write out a list the night
    or morning before and bring it in with me - if my husband goes on his
    own he takes it with him or I tell him t have Scott call me.  Actually,
    I think he appreciates it as I can get it all out of the way in one
    shot rather than be calling him back with an "oh, I forgot to ask
    you--"
    
    You have the right to ask and be properly informed.  If you don't
    understand something then ask them to explain it again - I've even
    asked my vet to write some things out.