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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

4245.0. "Want Traditional Sealpoint Siamese" by CSDPIE::CHERWEK () Tue Dec 11 1990 16:24

    Traditional Sealpoint Siamese with Triangular Face.  Does anyone know
    of a breeder?  I'm looking for a pet quality kitten.  If you have any
    information that could lead me to anyone that has this type of cat, I
    would appreciate it.
    
    Thanks-So-Much
    Ruby
    DTN 297-6597
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4245.1WR2FOR::CORDESBRO_JOset home/cat_max=infinityTue Dec 11 1990 19:414
    Check the back of Cat Fancy Magazine.  They have ads for "appleheaded"
    Siamese in there.
    
    Jo
4245.2define "head shape: please! ;")AKOCOA::FALLONIsn't that a Mooncat?Wed Dec 12 1990 10:447
    When you say triangular shaped head do you mean the newer typey head
    (my interpretation)?  An apple head would be more to the round side of
    things with not a very long profile.  If so, we may have some being
    born around the first of February.
    Karen, Ruby, Stinky, Wing, Goldie
    
    (we would have the more typey head)
4245.3Head V and not O shape SealpointCSDPIE::CHERWEKWed Dec 12 1990 14:149
    I would say that the apple head is not exactly what I want.  I would
    like the head a little thinner (not a lot thinner), which gives the
    face more of a V shape than an O shape.  I guess you may have what I
    would be looking for.  Does my description sound like what you may be
    having?  The body is usually not very delicate either and of course it has
    longer hair than the oriental siamese.
    
    Thanks,
    Ruby
4245.4WR2FOR::CORDESBRO_JOset home/cat_max=infinityWed Dec 12 1990 15:348
    Hmmmm,  what you are describing sounds like something in between the
    appleheads and the current look in Siamese.  Don't know if we can
    help you there.
    
    And the comment about it having longer hair than the oriental siamese
    really confuses me.  Siamese are short haired.
    
    Jo
4245.5"Traditional" Siamese are not in Vogue NOWCSDPIE::CHERWEKThu Dec 13 1990 11:2610
    Jo,
    
    A "traditional" Siamese's hair is not anything like a Persian, etc.,
    but the hairs are longer and appear to be thicker than an oriental.
    The oriental has sleek fur that hugs the body and to me looks like,
    no offense please, a rat.  I don't know your point of reference, but I
    have already owned two traditional Siamese cats.  One died of natural
    causes at age 20 and my last one was killed by my neighbors in their
    driveway in November.  My last one was an adoption and I don't know
    where he came from, otherwise I would contact that same breeder.
4245.6Now I know what you mean!AKOCOA::FALLONIsn't that a Mooncat?Thu Dec 13 1990 11:5511
    Hi again!  This may help, Wing is a traditional type with apple head. 
    Her fur is very dense and most like (if you believe it) a Russian Blue.
    If you go into some pedigrees there are actual Russian Blues in there.
    So her fur is quite soft but not long.  If this is what you are looking
    for but with a more up to date head type, all I can say is good luck. 
    What you need is a none show type cat and will have to look around. I
    guess what I mean to say is that no one tries to breed one that is like
    this.  You might have better luck looking for one with either a head
    type or a fur type, but not both.  (You might find one, but not without
    a lot of looking) :,)
    Karen,Ruby,Stinky, Wing and Goldie
4245.7SANDY::FRASERMonsters remonstrated...Thu Dec 13 1990 12:158
	. . . or maybe you could look into the Tonkinese, which has been
	developed by breeding Siamese to Burmese.  The Tonk is a larger,
	heavier cat than its Siamese ancestors, and the head is more of
	a modified wedge.  I know there's a Tonkinese breeder in Manchester,
	NH, as she was profiled in the local paper a couple of years ago.

	Sandy
4245.8Tonks have beautiful eyes!AKOCOA::FALLONIsn't that a Mooncat?Thu Dec 13 1990 12:282
    If you are interested in Tonks, Ray Fusci would be the man to see!
    Ray, are you out there!?
4245.9CRUISE::NDCPutiput Scottish Folds DTN:297-2313Fri Dec 14 1990 13:559
    I talked to the basenoter and also suggested she contact the shelters.
    A siamese that comes into a shelter may be the style for which she
    is looking.  
    
    There is also the "backyard breeders" but there are real risks
    associated with buying from them - an issue which we also discussed.
    
      Nancy DC
    
4245.10Another match..?WOODRO::IVESSun Dec 16 1990 14:2112
    I work  with a contractor (he is leaving DEC on friday of this week
    and he raises Siamese. He told me a couple of weeks ago he has one
    more little boy he would like to sell and was willing to lower the
    price. He is afraid to advertise as he doesn't want someone to buy
    it for a christmas present for someone and then that person not
    like it.
    
    Give me a call and I will put you in touch with him if you are
    interested. I believe this little boy is a RED point.
    
    Barbara and her 3M's
    
4245.11Traditional Siamese Breeders AssociationSIMGJH::HOFFMANJoan, PC Systems & Peripherals, MLOMon Dec 17 1990 16:3625

I talked with the basenoter last Friday, and gave her the name &
address of the Traditional Siamese Breeders Association, as well as
three breeders in the MA/RI/NH area who only breed "apple-headed"
Siamese.  

If any one else is interested in the association, the dues are $12/year,
which includes a breeders' list and monthly newsletter.  Send the $ in
a self-addressed stamped envelope to:

		Diana Fineran
		Rte. 14 Box 412
		Jonesborough, TN   37659

The kittens are all leukemia-free, hand-raised, and vary in price from
$150 and up (Remember that they're not a recognized breed yet - hence
the lower price for the kittens.); some breeders also have Balinese
kittens as well.

I'm glad some breeders are continuing and/or returning to the old-style
Siamese - especially for those of us who have geriatric (18 years old)
Siamese fur-faces at home!

Regards,