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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

4054.0. ""Bengals" ????" by BOOVX1::MANDILE () Mon Oct 08 1990 08:48

    Last night, there was a cat show from Anaheim, CA on
    cable. (ESN, I think)  There were some *gorgeous*
    "puttytats" being judged....unfortunately, we missed
    a large part of the show.
    
    What caught our interest, was a "new breed" called
    "Bengals".  What an absolutely beautiful cat!
    Like having a small spotted leopard in a catsuit!!!!
    Anyone know anything about this new breed?
                                       
    Even my hubby's attention was caught...maybe enough
    to add #5 to the household! :-)
    
    Lynne
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4054.1CRUISE::NDCPutiput Scottish Folds DTN:297-2313Mon Oct 08 1990 08:573
    I saw a Bengal at the TICA show in Nashua.  I believe he had
    cost $2000.  They are gorgeous. And I saw that show too!
    
4054.2ah, memories of the Forte wave/swing!CUPMK::TRACHMANEmacX Exotics * 264-8298Mon Oct 08 1990 10:234
    Yes, the TICA International show was on for an hour.  Nice to
    see Jimmy Reardon and himself, Mr. Bob Forte again!  
    
    E.
4054.3BAGELS::MATSISMon Oct 08 1990 11:4410
    Lynne,
    
    I fell in love with the Bengal that was at the Nashua show (the one
    that Nancy mentioned).  As soon as I saw it, I said "That my next 
    cat !!".  That is until I found out the price.  The cat was gorgeous.
    He was $2000 but you can buy a pet quality for $900 which is still
    steep.  They sure are beautiful though.   The guy took him out for me
    and let me pat him.  Some day!  
    
    Pam
4054.4More Bengal Information????AIMHI::BOYKOMon Oct 08 1990 13:029
    Very interested in getting more information about the Bengal 
    breed.  Did anyone get a card from the Nashua Cat show with
    an address or telephone number?  Went to the cat show in
    Manchester, but missed the latest one in Nashua.  Would appreciate
    any info. if possible.
    Have a Lynx point Siamese Oriental, but would loooooooove
    one of these!
    
    Thanks, Nancy
4054.5BAGELS::MATSISMon Oct 08 1990 14:1813
    Hi Nancy
    
    I didn't take a card, mainly because I don't have $900-$2000 to spend
    on a cat.   I believe the guy was from Connecticut.  (Big help right).
    
    This cat was pretty big, very muscular, huge paws, and very wild
    looking.   I flipped out when I saw him and kept going back to look
    at him.  He was Gorgeous!   I believe he was gray/silver with black
    spots (correct me if I'm wrong Nancy or Cindy).  I don't know if they
    come in other colors.
    
    Right now I have a Abysinnian (I love the wild looking breeds).  It
    would be great to get a Bengal too.   
4054.6TENAYA::KOLLINGKaren/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca.Mon Oct 08 1990 14:346
    Talk about baby kitties -- the latest issue of Smithsonian
    Magazine has (on page 23 if I remember correctly) the first
    baby tiger produced by artificial insemination (or
    something), anyway a major cute baby, about the size of a
    pussycat, liking someone's face off.
    
4054.7supply and demand theory at work hereWR2FOR::CORDESBRO_JOset home/cat_max=infinityMon Oct 08 1990 16:309
    I think that the Bengals are still considered under New Breeds and
    Colors in TICA (that would be the CFA equivalent of AOV).  They
    are very rare.  There is a woman out here in California that supposedly
    started up the breeding program for them.  They do have some wild
    ancestors way back in their pedigrees.  She wanted to create a cat
    that had some wild tendencies, but still had the temperament of
    a domestic cat.  
    
    Jo
4054.8CRUISE::NDCPutiput Scottish Folds DTN:297-2313Tue Oct 09 1990 08:516
    Anyone who has a catalog from that show - Kate?  Cindy? will have
    the addresses listed of all exhibitors.  They should be able to find
    the name and address of the gentleman with the Bengal for you.  And
    I believe he was colored similar to a leopard.  Sort of brown/gold
    with black spots.
    
4054.9I can get it if you want.AKOV13::FALLONIsn't that a Mooncat?Tue Oct 09 1990 10:414
    I have one of the catalogs and can look it up for you and post it
    tomorrow if you want.
    Karen, ruby, stinky, wing
    
4054.10POST IT! ...Please?BOOVX1::MANDILETue Oct 09 1990 17:237
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    Karen, 
    
    Please post it!
    
    Thx-
4054.11browsing through my vets officeTYGON::WILDEillegal possession of a GNUTue Oct 09 1990 18:2521
From an article I read in some magazine at my vets:

The Bengal is a cross between domestic cats and a small wild
cat.  The breedings are very unproductive, and there are very few 
males born that are NOT "mules" -- so far, the number of BREEDING hybred males
can be counted on your hands.  These cats have wild ancestry VERY recently --
you apparently cannot get the nice markings without breeding back to the wild
cat every other generation or something like that -- and are NOT
(according to this article) good pets for families with small children or 
even other cats.  They also were reported to have some health issues and 
were termed "exotic" and "delicate" pets.

The source wild cats (from South America or Africa) are considered endangered,
and there was some concern expressed in this article that the attempt to 
breed Bengals will bring more pressure to bear on the limited number of cats
left in the wild because the wild cats are so necessary to hold the 
markings of the hybreds.

I prefer to avoid any contact with wild cats -- they are all becoming 
endangered so fast - when I want something that looks wild, I'll take an
American-bred ocicat....it won't try to eat me or my other cats.
4054.12here are someAKOV13::FALLONIsn't that a Mooncat?Wed Oct 10 1990 13:0819
    bengals:  TICA, pet, show, breeder
    		619-471-7774
    	        
    	        "Lion's Mountain"
    		20045 Elfin Forest Road
    		Escondido, CA 92025
    
    OR
    
    Rita K. Marcuse
    P.O. Box 314
    Greenesboro Road
    Hanover, NH 03755
    603-643-3706
    (Occicats)
    
    These are two names and addresses for this type of cat.  I will find
    some more tonight.
    Karen, Ruby, Stinky, Wing, Arthur
4054.13Love them Bengals !AIMHI::BOYKOThu Oct 11 1990 13:583
    Thank you all so much for this information!
    
    Nancy
4054.14How about a spotted oriental?AKOV13::FALLONIsn't that a Mooncat?Thu Oct 11 1990 14:157
    Nancy,  I got more onfo on what we discussed on the phone the other
    day.  If you would like, call me at dtn 244-6384.  I know where there
    is a beautiful chocalate spotted tabby oriental male kitten @ 8-9
    weeks old.  If anyone is interested.  Also a cinnamon neutered female
    who is 1 to 2 years old (I think)
    K,R,S,W,A
    
4054.15BengalsDPDMAI::CESAKTue Jan 15 1991 14:511
    The latest addition of CATS magazine has an article on Bengals.