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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

3935.0. "okay, this is weird, but.... (abscess and paw pads)" by FRAGLE::PELUSO (PAINTS; color your corral) Wed Aug 22 1990 14:09

	A couple of questions regarding abscess have popped into my mind
	and since my vet is vacating this week, I was hoping someone might 
	have the answer.  (sorry I rambled, but they are at the bottom).

	I think Nippa has/had an abscess.

	She has been limping since Saturday.  I felt the paw in question
	and compared it to the other....no obvious differences.  However 
	she really didn't want me fussing w/ it.  I did soak it w/ warm
	water (per vets phone instructions) and watch for changes.  I was to 
	call her if she stopped eating or there were any changes (for the 
	worse).

	Monday morning she couldn't put any weight on the foot.  I kept her 
	in all day and tried to get ahold of the vet.  Monday night, she seemed
	better (still nothing visible).

	Kept her in all day Tuesday, and last night I soaked it in Hydrogen 
	peroxide, hoping it would fizz and give me an idea of what was 
	bugging her.  It did (finally).  There was a tiny slit on the front
	side of her paw pad (the large center one).  I looked for foreign
	objects - none.  She didn't seem to mind me touching it either.

	Today it is not bothering her a bit!  THis is mind boggling!


	Is it possible that she had a small abscess, it burst and now she feels 
	better.  I plan on watching her closely for the next few days to see if
	it gets worse/better.  Anything I should look for?  Do?

	If it wasn't an abscess, any ideas on what it might have been (well
	she now has a broken tooth, so I'm sure she was fighting)?

	Finally, does anyone know what is inside the pad (like if it burst,
	is it filled w/ fluid or skin or some cat stuff).  And what is their
	purpose for anyway?


	Thanks.....

	michele & nippa
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3935.1WR2FOR::CORDESBRO_JOset home/cat_max=infinityWed Aug 22 1990 15:0414
    The paw pad is just tissue, or skin, or flesh or whatever you want
    to call it.  The paw pad allows the cat to grip (well that isn't
    exactly the word I want, but you get the idea).  If the foot was
    all furry, the cat wouldn't be very steady on it's feet, it would
    slip around all the time.  Paw pads are kind of like rubber soles.
    
    Could be that in the fight the other cat cut her with his/her claws.
    Her immune system may have just fought off the infection on it's
    own, without abscessing.  The foot would still have been sore from
    the cut.
    
    Glad to hear that she is better now.
    
    Jo
3935.2sometimes I wish they could talkFRAGLE::PELUSOPAINTS; color your corralWed Aug 22 1990 16:216
    that's what I was thinking, but I haven't been able to get ahold of my
    vet (and I haven't been trying too hard....it is her vacation).  I will
    be seeing her Monday, but this thing has me puzzled.  She went from
    totally sore to being fine in less than 48 hours.....maybe a sliver or 
    something was stuck in her foot and she worked it out herself.....who
    knows.....
3935.3TENAYA::KOLLINGKaren/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca.Wed Aug 22 1990 21:406
    She broke a tooth from fighting?  When I got my Pussycat, he had a
    broken tooth, and I asked the vet about a fight, and he said No, it
    must have been something worse to do that.  I don't remember if he was
    speculating about a car, or a bad person.  Also maybe it matters that
    it was one of the biggie fang teeth, not a little one.
    
3935.4CRUISE::NDCPutiput Scottish Folds - DTN: 297-2313Thu Aug 23 1990 09:112
    Jesse has a few broken teeth too.  My vet's comment was that the
    other cat probably looks worse ;-)
3935.5FRAGLE::PELUSOPAINTS; color your corralThu Aug 23 1990 09:255
    The tooth that broke was one of the biggie fangs, but it was just the
    tip.  She appears fine now, is eating good.  There have been several
    strays in my neighborhood lately, and I hope she's just been out
    fighting cats instead of who knows what (Does this indicate she should
    trade in the fine clothes and bridge club for leather and harleys?)  
3935.6A cat of micetry is a joy forever!OFFPLS::SPINGLERThu Aug 23 1990 10:1717
    
    Oh Dear,
    
    Fighting, do cats of refinement engage in that rough sport?
    
    I'll have to check with the Princess and See...
    
    PPPuuurrrppp, (Now a word from Panther Jane,)
    Cats of refinement don't get caught!
    PPPPUUUURRRRRRRrrrrrrrrpppppppp  ;-)
    
    Feline Silly,
    
    Sue & Princess Panther & Spot (Who would welcome another Maine Coon
    				   into her motorcycle club!!)
    
    
3935.7Could be a bee sting....MCIS5::MCDONOUGHThu Aug 23 1990 10:3724
      My "Cookie" just lost MOST of one of her "canine" teeth last week. We
    took her to our Vet Tuesday, and he said she probably either fell from
    something and hit the tooth or something fell on her during one of her
    "exploration" episodes. He did NOT think she'd been in a fight, since
    ther was no other mark of any kind elsewhere on her body, and if she'd
    been fighting there should have been at LEAST some spots where fur had
    been removed... She only has the stump left...snd she's currently on an
    antibiotic for about a month while the stump has a chance to either
    loosen up or fall out. If it doesn't fall out on its' own, the Vet will
    remove it to prevent possibilities of abcessing. He wants to wait to
    let it loosen, since he said witht he size of a cat's jaw it's a very
    delicate operation since the jaw itself is so tiny there is some danger
    of breaking it if too much force on the tooth is exerted.
    
    
      As for the paw thing...Is this an OUTDOOR cat?? If so, she MAY have
    gotten the same thing my Yellow Labrador Retriever did....a Bee sting!!
    Brandy started limping around a month or so back, and we couldn't find
    any reason why. She did this for about 2 days, and then no sign of the
    limp. Our lawn has a lot of clover in it, and honeybees LOVE clover.
    DOgs and cats can simply step on a honeybee by accident and get a good
    sting on their pads....which causes a limp for about 2 days...
    
    JMcD
3935.8ALLVAX::LUBYDTN 287-3204Thu Aug 23 1990 12:5114

RE: .0

        My cat Bandit has an abcess on one of his paw pads.  He was limping
	quite a bit for two days so I brought him to the vet.  While in
	the examination room waiting for the vet, the abcess burst and
	liquid and blood came out.  The vet suggested that perhaps T.K.'s
	tooth pierced the paw pad while they were rough-housing.

        Probably not a problem.  In fact, I wouldn't waste the $$ on
	the vet visit unless the paw becomes infected.

	Karen
3935.9you put *what* on the gold AMEX???!!!!FRAGLE::PELUSOPAINTS; color your corralThu Aug 23 1990 15:3530
    
    
    
    
	Bee Sting......now that's a possibility.....
    
    	re: .8
    
    	How big was the burst abscess?  My vet also suggested waiting it
    	out until she gave more of an indication as to what it could be
    	(unless she stopped eating).
    
    
    
    And now a work from Nippa herself....
    
	My Dear Dignified Felines:

	It is without remorse that I give up my seat in the bridge club,
	as I find myself attracted to the *wilder* side of life and pizza!
	However, I do hope to see you all at the riding lessons.

	Respectfully yours,

	Nippa



	Hey Spot.....check out my new Harley and leather mini!
3935.10Now look what they've done!FACVAX::GERRYHome is where the Cat isThu Aug 23 1990 15:375
    Oh oh....sounds like Nippa's been cohorting with Happy and Preshie!
    
    ;-)
    cin
    
3935.11TENAYA::KOLLINGKaren/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca.Thu Aug 23 1990 17:0912
    Re: Cookie
    
    You might wnat to ask the vet about a root canal instead of removing
    the tooth.  My vet said that when the biggie fang teeth are removed,
    the cat often has a tendency to accidentally bite his lip after that,
    resulting in a permanent sort of sore, and that leaving the root canaled
    stump in place prevents this.  Maybe you want a redferral to a vet who
    specializes in dentistry.
    
    My sweetie had a root canal a few years ago and he hasn't had any
    problems with that tooth since then.
      
3935.12Club recruiter For Felines on Wheels...OFFPLS::SPINGLERThu Aug 23 1990 17:2113
    
    Murrrppphhh,
    
    Yo Nippa!  Welcome to the club!!   New members are always welcome,
    Especially if we can get them to pay dues.  Pizza is expensive, and the
    more the merrier!!!
    
    What color is your jacket?  Mine is black with white spots!!! ;-D
    
    Murrpphhh,
    
    Spots (Wheeeeerrrssss the PIZZA!) Spingler
    
3935.13Pizza is on me!FRAGLE::PELUSOPAINTS; color your corralFri Aug 24 1990 09:4715
    
    	's up Spot.....
    
    	Dues huh.....I'll have to tell mom to arrange direct deposit.  Got
    	my pizza and gas money all set.....how about a poker game tonite?
    	Then you guyes can see my new bike...and what AMEX can buy (thanks
    	to some secret spending lessons from Happy and Preshie......heh, 
    	heh, heh).  
    
    	Nippa (who's got a black and red leather coat, w/ black spike
    	       heels)
                    
    	
    
    	
3935.14Beer is on the HOUSE! (Root beer for minors...)OFFPLS::SPINGLERFri Aug 24 1990 10:2516
    
    Yo Nippa!!
    
    Done deal, except the poker party is at my house every Friday
    afternoon.  (Mummie won't let me out at night GRRR.)  While the stuffed
    shirt kitties play bridge we play poker.  (and try to disrupt the
    bridge game!!!:-)
    
    Yeah, bring your AMEX, I'd like to learn how that works.  
    
    Cool threads!  See ya this afternoon!!!
    
    Murrrppphhhh
    
    Spots
    
3935.15She's got a little red mark on her lip....MCIS5::MCDONOUGHFri Aug 24 1990 10:4811
     Re .11
      I think she's already past that point... Seems like she's exhibiting
    signs of that 'permanent sore'. The tooth she lost is gone right to the
    gum-line, and she does sometimes catch the lower (stomach tooth?) on
    her upper lip when she eats.... Poor little girl...she's such a little
    sweetie... I woke up last night about three and she's sleeping next to
    our biggest dog, with her little head resting right on his cheek...but
    Teddy loves her too, so no worry. Cookie likes to wash his face and he
    sits there and eats it up... Mortal enemies?? Ridiculous!!
    
    JM
3935.16TENAYA::KOLLINGKaren/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca.Fri Aug 24 1990 14:414
    Maybe they can do something about the sore if it persists (do cats
    get caps.... but she would need the base of the tooth still there
    to put a cap in, I think.)
    
3935.17..now let me see..AIMHI::MCCURDYMon Aug 27 1990 13:516
    YO.. Welcome.. hmm.. WOW another AMEX... I have HRH'S.. of course..
    er um.. It must clear kitty probate.. but can you teach me how to
    use it... er um I mean I am keeping it safe..
    
     
    Happy, Preschie