Conference misery::feline_v1

    Sure, I would love to go, unfortunately I live in Massachusetts.
    
    All kidding aside, it sounds like a wonderful idea.  Does this happen
    in the New England area at all (...family reunions)?
    
    Marilyn, Otis, Tiffany & Sam
    

    Sure, I'm interested.  I live in Palo Alto.
    

    You can count me in too.
    
    Jo

    Marleeeeen:
    
    Can I ride with you - I have no wheels - count me in.
    
    
    
    Giudi

    re: .2 - Well, I hosted a party last year but only about 3 people
    showed up.  I'll have to be convinced to do it again.
    If anyone wants an East Coast Party start another note and we'll
    leave this one to the west coast folks.
      Nancy DC

>    Is there any interest out there for a 2nd Annual West Coast Feliner
>    party? I missed it last year due to sick kitties. It certainly
>    sounded like everyone who attended a great time!  Any takers???
    
Let's choose a restaurant at which we can meet for dinner.  Perhaps on
a Friday evening or even Sunday evening when it will be reasonable for
people to travel and have a nice dinner.  I suggest we choose a place
in Sunnyvale/Santa Clara as the closest to centrally located.  It
will be a drive for most of us, but easier than anyone giving a party.

Bring photos!  I need at least 2 weeks warning to get film, take shots,
and get the photos developed.  Wait until you see Jo's photos of Moody!!!
He's perfectly georgeous!    

    
    I think dinner is a GREAT idea! Traffic from the City is a little
    crazy on a Friday evening, so my vote is for a Saturday or Sunday
    evening.  Other than July 13-28 (DECworld & vacation) I'll adjust
    my schedule accordingly.
    
    Marlene
    
    p.s. the boys from mysihns are indeed treasures :-)

>    I think dinner is a GREAT idea! Traffic from the City is a little
>    crazy on a Friday evening, so my vote is for a Saturday or Sunday
>    evening.  Other than July 13-28 (DECworld & vacation) I'll adjust
>    my schedule accordingly.
    
okay, here's the deal.  I will volunteer to coordinate the reservations,
etc. and I will scout out some likely restuarants for the dinner and
everyone can vote on the choices.  My VMS mailing address is:

		FORTSC::WILDE


I suggest we plan for end of july - 4th is coming up too soon to fit
into the window between now and DECWORLD.  I also suggest we go
Chinese (unless there are any Chinese food haters out there) and I
know a place just off 280 so it would be reasonably easy to find....
and it is chinese.  The house of the Eight Immortals on Winchester,
just off Steven's Creek and the 280 access.

Of course, we could also opt for Italian food and try "Two Guys from
Italy" in Mt. View or I think the Spaghetti Factory in downtown
San Jose is still open (not expensive, great pasta sauces - spaghetti
is the only menu option however).

so, let me know.

    I am all for having it in a restaurant, but my weekends at the end
    of July are all tied up with shows.  Well, actually, I think I may
    have the 21-22 off.  I know that the 14-15 is Santa Barbara and
    the 29th is San Rafael.
    
    Jo

    Count me in. What a great idea. (I can't wait to show my pictures!)
    Remember everyone - bring photos.
    
    Theresa Bromar (Altaira, Darcy, and Morbius)

Well, then, lets shoot for sometime in august...when most of us can attend.
Are we in for Chinese or we you prefer some other cuisine....I vote AGAINST
Japanese - cannot stand to watch people eat raw fish - sorry about that.
I know the Magic Pan provides just good food, if you all would prefer...

				D

    
    Let's set a date in August. Everything's open for me except the
    11th & 12th. :^)  Chinese sounds great.  It's also the easiest
    when dealing with a group of people.
    
    Marlene
           
    

    Ummmmm, I think that maybe you guys out to just pick a good day
    for you and if I can make it I will.  I hate to have you keep shifting
    the date because of me.  The only weekend that I can do it in August
    is the 18th or 19th.  August is a heavy month for me, we have the
    all night show, then Marlene and Bailey's show debut, and then the
    big Birman show in Ohio.  
    
    Chinese is great, what ever day you choose is fine, and I will try
    and make it if I can.
    
    Jo

>    Ummmmm, I think that maybe you guys out to just pick a good day
>    for you and if I can make it I will.  I hate to have you keep shifting
>    the date because of me.  The only weekend that I can do it in August
>    is the 18th or 19th.  August is a heavy month for me, we have the
>    all night show, then Marlene and Bailey's show debut, and then the
>    big Birman show in Ohio.  
    
Jo,

We have to have our local breeder with us...besides, I want to see
all the pics of the georgeous cats you breed...don't tell Hannah or
Nick I said that, they tend to be very jealous.  8^}

    re:  13
    
    Hey Jo, you don't have the 18th and 19th available !
    Remember, you have to come to the SeaCoast show !!!
    
    E.

    I keep waiting for you guys to send me that gratis airline ticket,
    but it never arrives!!  I would dearly love to do the Seacoast show.
    I know that I say that every year, but it is true.  Can't swing
    it this year, husband just changed jobs (he is in commission sales).
    We will have to shoot for next year I think.
    
    But, there is still time for you guys to get entered in the Medina
    show.  Entry clerk is Julie Collin, 4329 E. Airport Road, Mt. Pleasant,
    MI 48858.  
    
    Besides, I will be halfway to your coast in Ohio!
    
    Jo

    
    
    
    O.K., so how about the 18th or 19th??
    
    
    

    Okay, maybe next year!  I would love to get to Medina - when you
    send me a gratis plane ticket, I'll be there with bells on!
    
    E.

    Marlene, you are a true sales person!
    
    Jo

    Gee, E.T., Medina is just a hop, skip and a jump away. Nancy Jenkins
    and I will be driving there. ..How about you, Roberta, are you going
    to make it?  I think all the New England Feliners should go for
    it. We had a great time last year.  
    
    And you'd get to meet Jo ...and Moody too!
    
    Linda ...who's year begins and ends with the Medina show in August!

    Hi Linda! 
    
    Hmmm.  It would be fun - hmmm.  will have to check the buget !
    I know, some how at some show, it would be nice if we ALL could
    be there!  We'll have to work on that !
    
    E.

    E.T. - the show hotel is only $35 a night!!  (that is very cheap
    by California standards, I usually have to pay $75 for a hotel room
    unless I am lucky enough to be going to a town with a Motel 6 that
    isn't full)
    
    Jo

    Wow, that's a great price!  Split two ways is even better.  I like
    Holiday Inn great rates!  They help a bunch.
    
    E.

    (ppppssssttttt...E.T., I was talking about Holiday Inn when I said
    I usually have to pay $75!!!  Do you know something I don't know?)

    
    Jo, some Holiday Inn's have a weekend rate special called a GREAT RATE.
    
    If you call 800-HOLIDAY, you can check to see if the hotel you are
    going stay at is participating in that rate for the weekend you
    want to reserve.  Sometimes it's as low as $39/night or $49/night
    or $59/night.  Nice deal - check it out !!
    
    Being in CA could make a difference - when you have a chance, check
    and let us know - it's a real $$$saver !!
    
    E.T.

    Believe it or not, I belong to the Holiday Inn Priority Club!
    The lowest rate I have ever gotten was $50, and that was at the
    scummiest hotel imaginable.
    
    Well, I will give it a try for the Santa Barbara show and see what
    they can do for a rate.
    
    jo

    Okay, how does one get to Medina by plane.  Is it taxi distance
    from a major airport?  Any of you drives wanna provide limo service?
    
    I thought about going last year, and didn't.  Now I am thinking
    again.
    
    Can't afford it, but that never stopped me before.
    
    Heh Heh   [laughing all the way to the poor house]
    
    	Pennie

    Ok OK When is Medina???  maybe I'll have a kitten ready to show or
    is it invitational only???  maybe I'll bring Dundee for the H&*@ of
    it.
      N
    

    Some Inns participate some don't.  Another deal to check for at 
    'any' hotel, is to ask if they have a 'weekend special' rate.
    I always ask for a weekend rate or great rate, etc. before I
    say that I'm with the cat show, to see if their special or
    great rate is lower than the cat show rate.  Some times the
    special or weekend rate or great rate has been LOWER than the
    cat show rate, which really irritates me!
    
    Good Luck!
    
    E.T.

    Medina is about 20 minutes out of Cleveland.  Fly into
    Cleveland-Hopkins airport.  When you send in your entry, you can
    note your arrival time and see if the show committee can pick you
    up.  They always make arrangements to pick up us Birman-types, so
    I am sure that they can pick you up too.  From thursday thru friday
    night, there is almost always someone at the airport waiting for
    arriving Birmans.  The entry clerk is a very good friend of mine,
    so tell her that your my buddy and see if it helps. :^)
    
    Medina is not by invitation only, but it fills early, so be sure
    and enter early.  Our closing date is usually early in August, but
    we often fill by late July.  SCBF, Sacred Cat of Burma Fanciers
    is the sponsoring club.  The show is held under the auspices of
    CFA.  There will be six judges, Koepp (AB), St. Georges (AB), Doernberg
    (AB), L. Jensen (AB), Jones (LH/SH), and Powell (LH/SH).  Call Julie
    at (517)772-0278 for a flyer.
    
    The hotel that the Birman folks are staying at is the Knights Inn
    in Medina.  Call for a reservation right away if you plan to go.
    The Birman types reserve their rooms early and the place has been
    known to fill up.  Never fear though, there are other hotels in
    Medina, all in about the $35 range.
    
    Jo

    
    Oh, Becky Jones is judging OOOOOOOhhhhhhhhhhhh  maybe I really
    ought to consider going !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    
    
    
    E.T.

    She's one of my favorites too!
    
    Besides, you could always hitch a ride with some of the Birman types
    that are coming from your area...
    
    Jo

    Elaine,
    
    You may not be ABLE to enter Lil!!!
    
    Remember??
    
    

    Jo....
    
    So what is the number I should call to make hotel/motel
    reservations???
    
    I'll check airline fares tonight.  Well, you never know.  In March,
    I got a round trip fare to Chicago for $137.  Couldn't pass it up!
    And guess what...it was HopeyCats best show, all with new judges!
    Less than $1 per point (which means a *lot* of points for
    premiership!).
    
    Maybe we can finally meet!
    
    	Pennie

    re:  33
    
    
    I don't count my chickittens before they are hatched !!
    
    Remember how much Becky Jones liked Lil ??  Wonder if she still does??
    
    Would be fun to find out!  She's never judging around here any more,
    da*m  !!  I won't forget that show for a long time - too bad I didn't
    really understand just exactly what had happened until months later !!
    
    E.

    Well, I will have to go look the number up at home.  Unless you
    want to call information.  I don't have any of the show stuff with
    me (all that other information was from memory!).
    
    Becky Jones will probably always judge at Medina.  She is from Ohio,
    so she is inexpensive to get, plus, she knows a good Birman when
    she sees it.  Glad to hear that she is good to other minority breeds
    too.
    
    Jo

    PS - Cin, I think I know what you were driving at in your note :^)

    
    
    
    So folks, is it going to be the weekend of the 18th & 19th?  Let's make
    a decision! :-)

    

    re:  37
    (sorry M)
    
    Driving at, hint,           YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES
    God is GOOD !!!!
    
        E.T._in_kitten_heaven!

    Marlene:
    
    I'm too tired to walk over and ask you - but what has been decided
    here?  Is is the Weekend of August 18th - 19th?  Chinese is fine
    with me.
    
    Giudi

    Oops, that should have read #38 rather than #37 - one of those days!!
    
    
    Giudi

    
    Okay folks, here's the info:
    
    Date:  Saturday, August 18th
    
    Time:  7:00 p.m.
    
    Place:  House of 8 Immortals, Santa Clara
    
    RSVP:  FORTSC::WILDE
                    
    
                                

    Marlene, glad that you posted it...I was much to tired to *walk*
    over to your office too!! :^) :^) 
    
    I will try and make it, and I will bring Ken along too.
    
    Jo

directions to the 'house of the 8 immortals' restaurant:

FROM SAN FRANCISCO AND POINTS NORTH:

280 S. to Winchester Blvd. exit.  Take exit and cross over the
freeway, making a left turn.  The restaurant will be on your left just 
past the Century theaters complex.  The distance is very short...maybe 
2 - 3 city blocks.  If you get to Stevens Creek, you've gone too far.

FROM POINTS SOUTH:

You can take the 280 N. to Winchester Blvd. - make a right turn onto
Winchester and the restaurant in on the left just past the theaters
complex.

You can also take 101 N. to 17 S. (880) to the Stevens Creek exit.  Turn 
right onto Stevens Creek, moving immediately into the left lane (the exit
off of 880 allows for this movement if you stay in the left lane of
the exit ramp).  Go to winchester Blvd. and turn left (2 lights).  The
restaurant is on the right side, just before the Century theaters, approx.
1 block from the intersection.

    Ok Marlene!
    
    I'm almost sure that I'll be able to make it and I might bring Richard
    too!  I'm so glad that I "WALKED" over to your office - or should
    I say "cube".
    
    Later,
    
    Giudi who's done far too much walking today!

    Everyone remember to bring pictures of their pussycats.
    

    Well, its been months since I've been in this file.  Glad I checked
    in tonight.  I'll plan on joining ya'll for dinner on August 18th.
                                     
    Jan
    
    P.S.  I don't believe there is a Winchester Blvd. exit off of 280
          North.  I think taking the 880/Oakland exit and getting off
          on Stevens Creek is the way to go if you're going North on
          280.

    
    Hi Jan!  Glad you checked in! IS keepin' ya busy??????  Look
    forward to seeing you on the 18th!
                                     
    Marlene
    
    

Okay, now here's the rule.  Send me mail to FORTSC::WILDE and I will
add u to the official head count for the west coast feliners party.
I will add Jan if she doesn't get back into the file...she's seldom
in here these days...but, please the rest of u out there, if u haven't
sent me mail, do so.  If u HAVE sent me mail, don't send me another
one.  I'm looking for a vague head count on this, gang, so help me
out here...

			Thanks,

			  D   

    Dear Dian,
    
    I sent you mail, but I haven't heard back from you. I want to attend
    the West Coast Feliners Dinner Party!!! Count me in. I'm bringing
    pixs!!!
    
    Theresa (Altaira, Darcy, Morbius and Merlin)

>    I sent you mail, but I haven't heard back from you. I want to attend
>    the West Coast Feliners Dinner Party!!! Count me in. I'm bringing
>    pixs!!!
    
oh, sorry....I have your mail on file - I'm just really swamped and
haven't replied to anyone lately....I'll go stand in the corner as soon
as I have some time....8^}

    Is there anyone coming to the west coast party who wants some free
    Everclean litter?  My guys can't use it because it aggravates Sweetie
    respiratory condition, so I've got 4 double jugs to give away.
    I'll divy (sp?) it up if more than one person wants it.
    

    Gee, why couldn't I be on the West Coast.
    
    I've recently started using Everclean for my whole males.....what a
    difference when you can actually remove the source of the odor from the
    box.
    
    Jo, you might want to take Karen up on this offer and try it for
    Kalliste. (That is your boy, right!?)
    
    cin
    

    I should probably say that Everclean is one of the new "sand"
    litters that clumps around moisture, so you remove the clumps
    from the box. Unfortunately, there is a very fine dust apparently
    associated with it, and while it doesn't bother H or LB, it
    does bother Sweetie.
    

    Karen, 
    
    At Cin's suggestion I would like to try the everclean for my two
    whole males.  Is one jug enough to split between two boxes, or do
    you need two.  If others want it too, I will just ask for one jug.
    
    Jo

The die is cast (and no snakeeyes here).....

    
    Date:  Saturday, August 18th
    
    Time:  7:00 p.m.
    
    Place:  House of 8 Immortals, Santa Clara
    
    RSVP:  FORTSC::WILDE
                    
I've made the reservations...name is WILDE....so we are the....


	WILDE PARTY OF 10!!!!

sorry, I couldn't resist...actually I reserved for 10 and will correct
the count down if need be - right now, I'm at approx. 8 so I may have
to correct the count UP if we all bring spouses/so's.....

			D-who's-bringing-nothing-but-pictures

    Jo,
    
    I started my first box with about 1 1/2 gallons.  But, I use DEEP
    boxes!
    
    Really does keep the odor down, and the cost really isn't any higher
    than regular.  An added bonus, is that you really get a good idea on
    how much the cat urinates.  Therefore, you could spot a blockage
    problem much quicker.
    
    Now, on the minus side....DWeeBs loved the stuff, and for about the
    first two days, he thought it was great fun to play in!  
    
    cin
    

    Jo,
    
    I took me about a single jug and a half to fill one large box.  What I
    have are 4 double jugs.  No one else has spoken up and I have these sitting
    in my trunk to bring to the party, so you can have as many as you like.
    Any left over, I'll offer around at work.  
                   

    Karen,
    
    Thanks very much.  I like the idea of being able to monitor urination,
    especially since Kalliste has had a bout of cystitis.  This might
    just be the answer to all his problems.  
    
    Jo

    Jo, I switched from the plain Everclean to Everclean MC....MC is for
    Multi Cat.  It worked slightly better than the original version, and
    was the same price.  
    
    Just figured I'ld let you for when your re-adding to the box.
    
    Of course, DWeeBs is the wizz king....I have never seen a cat that can
    make such big pee balls! ;-)
    
    cin
    

    sigh
    
    is this what I have to look forward to in the car to NJ this weekend!
    
    sigh

    It's not the pee we have to worry about in the car.....and DWeeBs is
    just like Fire used to be....the car moves, and so does he....if you
    can catch my drift!  ;-)
    
    

    Yeah, Cin, I CAUGHT your drift...literally!
    
    Ah, memories!
    
    	Pennie

    
           ugh, do supply clothes pins for the trip?
    
    How many poop/scoop stops will we have to make?  Do you carry lunch
    bags?
    
    Of course, I'm sitting here making all these cute comments.  I best
    not forget that I am taking a kitten that is four months, and 1 week
    old, who has never been out of the house, never been to a hotel, never
    been to a cat show, and certainly never ridden in a car for 5 hours!
    
    Hmm.  This could be interesting !!

    Pennie, as they say...."That's what friends are for"!...and I do catch
    your drift, or should I say...."Hey, just grab his foot"!
    
    
    Re: E.T.
    
    We'll only have to make one stop for DWeeBs....usually BEFORE we
    actually make it to the highway.
    
    cin
    

    I just hope he doesn't step in "it"!
    
    ;-)
    

    Dian,
    
    Please list those who are attending! 

    Thanks! 
    See you there!
    Theresa, (who's brining pictures)

List is:

SANFAN::BALZERMA	- 1 or 2?
CIRCUS::KOLLING		- 1
WR1FOR::BROMARTH	- 1
WR1FOR::RUSSELLPE_ST	- 2 if husband can be convinced we are fun to
			  know - we are of course, so I expect he'll join us
WR2FOR::CORDESBRO_JO	- 2 maybe - depending on many things happening
			  these days.  I have my toes crossed.
WR2FOR::CORDES_JAN      - I haven't heard lately, but I'm sure she said
			  she'd be there.  But then, as I get older my
			  memory is getting worse...Jan, any comment?
FORTSC::WILDE		- 1

I have reservations for 10 - if necessary, we can jack it up a count or
two.  Be there!

    
    It's reservations for one, unless Bailey can come as my date for 
    the evening????  ;-)
    
    Marlene
    
    

		*** WEST COAST FELINERS REMINDER ***
		    ****************************
	  	    ****************************

	A reminder of the delightful evening ahead of you:

    
    Occasion:  West Coast Feliners Dinner

    Date:      Saturday, August 18th
    
    Time:      7:00 p.m.
    
    Place:     House of 8 Immortals Restaurant, 
	       Next to Century Theatre Complex and
	       very close to Winchester Mystery House,
	       Santa Clara, Ca.
    
	reservations in the name WILDE


directions to the 'house of the 8 immortals' restaurant:

FROM SAN FRANCISCO AND POINTS NORTH:

101 S. to 17 S. (880 S.) to Santa Cruz.  Take the Steven's Creek Exit
and stay in the left lane on the exit ramp.  Turn right onto Steven's
Creek, moving into the left-most lane.  Either 2 or 3 lights down is
Winchester Blvd.  Turn left.  The restaurant is on the right hand side
just before you get to the Century movie theatre complex.

				- OR -

280 S. to "Winchester Mystery House" exit -- follow the signs.  I think
the exit is Meridian.  I know I can get ON the freeway from Winchester,
but there is some doubt whether you can get OFF directly onto 
Winchester.  If you get to the Winchester Mystery House, the restaurant
is on the same side of the street on the other side of the Century
Theatre Complex.  If you get to Stevens Creek, you've gone too far.
The restaurant is between 280 and Steven's Creek, on Winchester Blvd.

FROM POINTS SOUTH:

You can take the 280 N. to Winchester Blvd. - make a right turn onto
Winchester and the restaurant in on the left just past the theaters
complex.

101 N. to 17 S. (880 S.) to Santa Cruz.  Take the Steven's Creek Exit
and stay in the left lane on the exit ramp.  Turn right onto Steven's
Creek, moving into the left-most lane.  Either 2 or 3 lights down is
Winchester Blvd.  Turn left.  The restaurant is on the right hand side
just before you get to the Century movie theatre complex.  Approx. 1
city block from the intersection.

You can connect to Winchester Blvd off of San Tomas Expressway, just
next to the Rt 17/880 crossover.  You stay on Winchester until you
cross 280.  The restaurant is on the left, just past the Century
Theatre Complex.

There, now I think I've covered any possible options that may exist.
If you have need of directions from somewhere else, let me know and
I will try and get them for you.  Use your maps.  I'll be at the 
restaurant at 7:00 P.M. sharp and anyone who is prompt will have time
to join me in a pre-dinner cocktail.

Bring pictures, bring your "oohs" and "ahhhs" for everyone elses 
pictures.  

	BE THERE OR BE SQUARE....WE ARE A WILD AND CRAZY TEAM!


			D (your social secretary)

P.S. Jo and Ken will be joining us along with a guest from Hawaii - so
we are now a REAL...

		Wilde party of 10...

	OKAY, Okay, I promise I won't make that joke anymore...
    

    What a nice time.  We should schedlue another one of htese soon.....
    

    I had a wonderful time.  The food was fabulous, even the squid and
    eggplant (not two of my favorites).  Too bad so many of you missed
    dessert!  Berry pie warm, with french vanilla ice cream...if I keep
    this up I will be back on Optifast. :^o
    
    Jo

yes....I think we had a very successful party...which, I might add, may have
had fewer guests than the east coast party, but we more than made up for it
in laughter, "oohs" and "aahs" over the family cats/kittens, and general
good cheer.  Dessert was definitely a perfect topper to the evening...
I'll eat again sometime in September.

I learned that the gang of four must have planted a kitty microphone on me
somewhere, though...I bragged about how cooperative they all were for baths
and grooming at the dinner...but Sunday, when the weekly grooming and toe
nail clipping came around they were all perfect little "sh*ts...Hannah even
hissed at me and "threatened" to bite...she didn't actually take a chunk
out of me or anything, but she let me know she COULD HAVE, if she had wanted
to.  Sigh.  I think I will have to sneak out next time.

I was also thoroughly "inspected" from head to foot...I think there was
suspicion of my cheating with other cats...but, being innocent, I was not
worried.

    
    Thanks again Dian for organizing the dinner!  Next time I'll plan
    to stay for the desert... :-)
    
    mb