Conference misery::feline_v1

    What a sad story.  I assume you are talking about the big gray cat and
    the tiger cat...am I correct?
    
    I am going to go home and talk to my daughter tonight and see if we
    can't take one of them.  I can't promise anything, but will do my best 
    and will let you know tomorrow.  
    
    I know you said that you will never again involve yourself in
    something like this - but it's people like you who DO care and get
    involved...that save lives and help defenseless animals (human beings 
    as well) live longer, healthier and happier lives.
    
    Do not despair, I am sure this will all work out!
    
    I will let you know in the morning if we can take one - or if
    there is someone else to come to the rescue.
    
    You did the right thing!
    
    Marilyn, Otis and Tiffany
    
    

    They will pay more to have those cats put to sleep then he would if he
    dropped them off at a Humane Society and left a donation that is
    usually required.  You might want to tell him that!
    
    

    Thank you for answering my note, Marilyn.  I am a real softy when it
    comes to animals, especially cats.  I know that it is wrong to give up
    but I just get so frusterated with people who can be so cold and
    uncaring.  Yes, I am talking about the big gray and the orange tiger. 
    To make matters worse the owner gave me two pictures of them.  They are
    simply gorgeous!!  I am going to hang the photos at the local animal
    hospital as well as at the post office in my condo complex.
    
    Thanks again for answering.
    
    Arlene

    Re: .2
    
    Be careful that the money talk doesn't motivate the turkey to dump them
    in the woods or something.
    
    I wonder how that baby is going to feel if it grows up
    to love animals and finds out its parents killed two cats.
    

    Exactly!!  He already told me NO MONEY.  In other words I am on my own. 
    He said that last night he was considering dumping them on the highway. 
    This guy is not kidding around.  I almost told him that there would be
    a charge to put them down.  If I do that, I do not think that the poor
    things will make it through this weekend.  There was a person out in
    California who was interested in the big orange one.  The owners did
    not want to let the kitty out of state.  Doesn't make any sense.  Joey,
    thats the orange tiger's name, might have had a home by now.
    
    Arlene

    
    
    	grr!!  I'd like to dump HIM on the highway.!!
    
    	Best of luck to you....if I didn't have four of my own and
    	had a bigger place, I'd help you out but it just isn't 
    	possible.
    

    Dumping them on the highway! And who is this monster? Aren't there laws 
    about that? no, I guess there aren't. 
    I suggest a collection. A few dollars from some of the readers of this 
    file may put together enough money to put them in a shelter, or, in the 
    worst case, have them put to sleep without pain. 
    Pity they are declawed. I can only take clawed cats, who can go outdoors
    and hold their own against Silvia, my cat, if she gets jealous. 
    How much money would be necessary to get them in a shelter?
    
    joe g.

    Isn't there some feliner out there who can provide a foster home for
    these guys?  That's what I did with Tymothee & Melynda last year and
    they both have good homes now.   All you need is one spare room and
    a little love.
      Nancy - who doesn't have any spare rooms.
    

    First of all, thanks to all of you who have responded to my plea.  Last
    night, in the post office at my condo complex, I posted pictures of the
    kitties and their urgent situation.  Within hours I received a call
    from a very upset individual.  She thought that I was the person
    getting rid of the poor things and was all set to give me a piece of
    her mind!!  She was so relieved when I told her that I was trying to
    find homes for them.  Anyway, she too is concerned and is planning to
    spread the word at her office.  Her husband is also going to send out a
    message on his system at the office.  I just pray that we succeed.  I
    really appreciate the offers from everyone with regards to donations. 
    To be quite honest with you I was going to pay whatever costs necessary
    to help these guys.  I already spent $11.00 for photos to post in
    different areas.  Money means nothing when little lives are at stake. 
    I plan to call the owner this morning and try to buy more time.
    
    Again, thanks to all of you and I will keep you posted.
    
    Arlene

    geesh Arlene, I didn't think he was that serious......or that inhumane.
    If the reader in calif is still interested in the orange one, maybe we
    can fake a local adoption and then ship her out.....
    
    michele & nippa
    

       I'm not sure where they are located....but....there's a lady in
    Concord and I thinkshe has a sattelite operation in either Littleton or
    Chelmsford....the name is "Concord Adopt-a-Cat". SHe does some
    absolutely outstanding things in this area...like trapping and taming
    thrown-away cats that have turned "feral", rescuing and finding homes
    for literally HUNDREDS of cats... She had over 60 the last time I
    talked to her... Last winter she had some sickness---upper respiratory
    infections---and was not taking any more cats until the illnesses were
    cleared up, but in desperation she may be another avenue to approach...
      Her name's Mrs. Morway....Phone number is 508-369-9467...
    
      (I got my little "Cookie" from her...and have never regretted it for
    a minute...like this morning...I'm sitting on the couch watching the
    news on the tube.....a 70 and 55 pound dog squished against each
    side....and the "Cookster" jumps up...lies down half on me---half on
    the head of the 70 pound dog...does a "roll-rubbie" and then calmly
    begins to wash the dog's face... Cook weighs all of 6-7 pounds...but
    has about 50 tons of confidence and "prescence"!!)
    
      (B.T.W...for those of you who are wondering "what"???....Many of us
    animal-lover-nuts have "special" vocabularys and descriptive
    phrases...so for those who DON'T....a "roll-rubbie" is our idiotic
    little descriptive for that maneuver that cats do when they roll in
    luxurious happiness and end up usually about half upside-down with
    their little faces peeking out from between their two front paws...
    Sure...I know I'm somewaht nutso..but I have a lot of fun..)
    
      Good luck with the "adoptions"..  
    
      John McD

    
    	If it's a matter of faking an adopption so we can ship out the
    orange cat to California, I'd be willing to play the part of the
    adopter.  I can't believe this guy would do something so cruel as
    to dump the cats on the road!  That's infuriating!  As a matter
    of fact, if it means saving the life of the other one, I'd be willing
    to be a foster home for an additional couple of weeks if it means
    saving his life!  
    
    	God, I can't stand b@$t@rd$ like that!  I wish I didn't already
    have so many cats, I'd save 'em for good.  Like I say, I can't keep
    'em, but I'll do anything I can to help save their lives.  Let me
    know if I can help.
    
    McQ
    

    *I'm* the person in California that wanted more information on the
    short hair, orange Morris-like tabby!!! If you have pictures taken 
    already please send me one. My address is listed below:
		Theresa Bromar
    		10213 Lockwood Drive
    		Cupertino, CA 95014
    		Home: (408) 996-9558
    		Work: (408) 748-4613 (DTN:521-4613)
    Gosh, I kept waiting for a reply. What a surprise to find out that
    he is still available. Let me know what we can do at this point.
    My only reservation is that I'd hate to committ to a cat I've never
    seen, but it sounds pretty desperate at this time. Let's keep our
    hopes up!!! Also, do we have any information as to his health in
    general. Any pertinent information would be helpful. I do have another
    cat, and I need to sensitive of her needs (health) too!

    Not that I'm trying to talk you into anything, Theresa, but....

    I adopted 3 of my 5 cats sight unseen, knowing very little of their
    backgrounds, as they were strays that people had rescued. Two of the
    cats (in separate adoptions) were delivered to my door, and one was 
    flown to me from California, so there was no way I could back out if 
    I didn't like their looks. :-) :-)

    But by the time they arrived I was so psyched to have them I would have
    been very upset if the adoptions had fallen through. None of them looked 
    or acted the way I expected from the information I was given before 
    adopting them, but it was never a problem (I like surprises). It was 
    great discovering new things about them as we got acquainted, and it 
    didn't take long to come to love each one.

    I do think, though, that it's a good idea to get as much information
    as you can in advance, particularly health info. Does anyone know if
    the cat would need proof of vacinations/health certificate to get into 
    California? I believe my Peanut needed a health certificate to get out
    of CA.

    Good luck with your decision.

    Linda

    The airlines required Peanut (AKA Blackie O'kelly) to have a health
    certificate before shipping was allowed.  It would be the same with
    any cat being shipped via airlines.  It is a good idea to have the
    cat up to date on vaccinations before shipping.
    
    With Peanut, he was a rescue, so his early health was unknown. 
    He came through his neuter with flying colors though.  Hope that
    he has remained healthy for you Linda.  
    
    Jo
    
    PS-is he really that different now?  Of course, I didn't have much
    time to get to know him.
    

    BTW, most of my Birmans came to me sight unseen.  I have never been
    disappointed in any of them.  :^)
    
    Jo

    Dear Arlene,
    
    This is Theresa. Please let me know the status of the Morris-type
    cat. I am still interested. Looking forward to hearing from you.
    Thanks everyone for your encouragement with "sight-unseen adoptions".

    Hi Folks,
    
    This has been a nightmare!  The owners are going to send me an update
    as to any specifics regarding the cats.  I had posted a couple of
    photos at the post office at my condo.  You would not believe the AWFUL
    phone message that was on our recorder when I got home yesterday!  This
    crazy individual was screaming at me, calling me all sorts of names and
    threatening to report my husband and I to the MSPCA, of which I am an
    active member.  She told me that I was cruel and uncaring and slammed
    down the phone.  She called a second time and left another mean
    message.  I suddenly realized that this fool thinks that it is I who
    wish to dispose of the animals.  I went to the post office to post a
    reply to that person and right on my poster of the kitties some creep
    wrote that I was an A@@hole!!!  What is wrong with people??  Why don't
    they call for the facts first? I stated right in the note that I was
    doing this for someone else.
    
    Oh well, as I said, I will have the specifics for you soon.  Also,
    there my possibly be someone else interested in adopting both kitties. 
    I will know more later.  Lets keep our fingers crossed.
    
    Arlene

    Arlene -  that's really awful that you are taking the anger instead
    of the person who's actually getting rid of the cats!!  Please don't
    let it get you down.  Perhaps a title like "Please Help me save these
    cats" would make it clearer to folks reading the note.
    
    I suppose it is nice to know there are people that passionate about
    animals out there - but its awfully hard on you.  Too bad that person
    isn't willing to adopt the cats s/he's so passionate about.
      Hang in there.
       Nancy DC

    If we need help in getting a kitty out to CA, my sister-in-law is in
    town now, and will be returning to CA in about a month.  It is possible
    she could hand carry the cat with her.....
    
    cin
    

    What a great idea!!  How does that sound to you Theresa?  The owner
    sent some info on both cats.  The "Morris" kitty is named Joe.  He is 4
    years old, very fat (20lbs), lazy and loveable.  He loves dry food,
    Tender Vittles and treats.  He likes to sit with his Mom and be petted. 
    Once in a while his little eye gets running so the owner would clean it
    with a Q-tip.  I have to do the same with my little Jackie every so
    often.  Joe is declawed, neutered and very well groomed.  He loves to
    be brushed and is used to sleeping with the owners.  Joe and Sam are
    both in great health and are all up to date on their shots.  So, what
    do you think?

    Re: .15

    Ah, yes, now I remember it was the airlines that required the health
    certificate. Thanks for refreshing my memory.

    Peanut has been very healthy since I got him. The vet found some 
    gingivitus when I took him for his first feline leukemia shot but
    a little medication cleared that right up.

    I can't say that Peanut is that different with me than he was with 
    you, since I mostly only knew in a general way what his personality 
    was like before I met him. One definite difference is that Peanut will 
    not let me hold him upside down in my arms like a baby, the way you 
    did. :-(  What's your secret, Jo? He also doesn't like to be held in 
    a normal position. Even if he asks to be picked up, he doesn't stay 
    long. :-(  He does like to curl up with/on me when I park on the couch 
    or go to bed at night, though. He also becomes very lovey and attentive 
    as soon as I step out of the shower. Figure that one out! I am very 
    happy to have him; he is quite a character!

    I have Peanut pictures to send you, Jo; I promise I will do it soon.

    Linda

    P.S.  Sorry to sidetrack the base note.

    Hang in there Arlene.  Gosh, I wish I had room.
    

    Well folks, as I just told Marilyn, we are coming down to the wire on
    this one.  Wednesday is "D" day.  Anyone who is serious about adopting 
    these cats please let me know.  Theresa, are you out there?  Lets pull
    this deal together today if possible.  Also, the person who has a
    sister out here from California, can we still get her assistance?  I
    have a very busy schedule today.   I will check back into this file
    later this morning.  I'm still hoping for a miracle within the next
    couple of days.
    
    Arlene
    

    Just heard from the person in California, Joe is out of luck.  We are
    back to square one.  Oh well, C'est la vi!!
    
    

    Where in Mass are they located?  Does the 4 yr old have long hair?  I
    know someone looking for a young, long haired cat.
    
    Thanks,
    Sonia

    Sonia-
    
    both are short haired tigers.  Arlene and I are in Northboro, but
    I'm not sure where they actually reside.
    
    Michele

    Thanks to Marilyn and a friend of hers, Sam and Joe are on their way to
    new homes.  Marilyn is adopting Sam and her friend Marcia is adopting
    Joe.  I can finally get some sleep.  I can finally stop worrying.  This
    whole thing has had me so upset.  The owner is bringing the kitties to
    me tomorrow.  I will be delivering the precious gems to Stow in the
    afternoon.  Joe has put on three more pounds - 23 lbls of lovable
    pussy!!
    
    Thats it folks!!
    
    Arlene

    Great!  What a terrific note to find.  Hurray for you Arlene, and
    to their new parents, for saving these babies lives.
    
    Karen, Sweetie, Holly, and Little Bit
    

    
    here, here!!!  love and all the best to you terrific folx!!!
    
    diane & the dynamic duo
    

    Hi folks!  Well today I get Sam....I'm so excited!  
    
    I was frantic yesterday knowing that the clock was ticking down and I
    haven't been able to sleep the last three or four nights thinking of
    the possible demise of Sam and Joe.  When Arlene told me that they
    still hadn't found anyone for them - I said 'ah hell...what's one more! 
    What got me nervous yesterday was the 'saving' of Joe - but a cat-lover
    in my group, Marcia Butchart who already has 5 fur-faces, saved the
    day.  I asked her (all in one breath) if she would take a 4 year old
    cat whose owner was going to get rid of him today...and she said 'sure'.
    Simple as that.  I was SO happy.  In fact, I was just in the middle of
    writing a desparate memo to the people in our department - but I didn't
    have to send it after all.  Thank God!!!
    
    So!  Tiffany and Otis will have a new brother tonight.  I just hope
    there won't be a lot of hissing and spitting - after all Sam has
    been through I don't want this move for him to be too traumatic.
    
    Will let you all know how the 'welcome committee' greets him -
    here's hoping it will be a fairly smooth transition.
    
    Thanks Arlene, Michele and anyone else who helped in saving Joe and
    Sam.  You deserve a round of applause!!!
    
    Marilyn, Otis, Tiffany AND Sam
    

    
    
    	Yayayayayay!
    

    Congratulations to you, Arlene and Michele, on a job well done! It's
    wonderful that you cared, took the time and effort to save these
    guys.
    
    Congratulations, also, to new kitty owners Marilyn and Marcia. We're
    wishing Sam and Joe and their new families many years of happiness
    together.
    
    Linda and Misty, Cubby, Tobie, Tweetie & Peanut

    
    what GREAT NEWS!!!! Congratulations to Arlene and her friend for
    "rescuing" these two fur faces. 
    
    Hopefully the original owners will never get cats again ---- they
    don't deserve to have their love and affection as they obviously
    can't give it back to furfaces........
    
    you are both 'angels' to be doing this. both sam and joe will
    thank you more than you'll ever know.....
    
    cindi - magen & cinnamon
    

    Hey - before we're through EVERY feliner will have at least 4 cats ;-)
    
    GOOD WORK!!!  You definitely get a gold star next to your names in
    that big book God uses to keep track of our deeds.
      Nancy DC

    I read this note in its entirety at one sitting.  It beats any soap
    opera on TV.  And, what a great ending. 
    
    Hooray!!!   Your all very, very, very, verrrrrrrrrrry  special.
    
    Flo & Oliver

    
    
    i agree flo ... it was very heartwarming to learn that homes were
    found for our furry buddies sam and joe ... i was on the edge of my
    seat hoping for a happy ending ... and YIPPEE
    
    janice/rocky/wanda