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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
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3558.0. "Cat goes out of control!" by XANADU::CHRISTOPHER () Mon Apr 30 1990 20:03

Something very strange happened last Friday evening -- I am hoping that 
someone may be able to explain it!  Any cat behavior specialists out there?

It was so hot on Friday, we had the sliding glass door to our deck open
all evening (the screen door was closed -- my cats are 'indoor' cats.)
Just after dark, I heard my neutered male cat, Ed, growling and 'hissing',
(something he NEVER does) and went to investigate.  I found him crouched
by the screen door, nose to nose with another cat who was sitting on our
deck, looking in.  Ed was doing his best to intimidate this 'visitor', but
the other cat just sat there, quite calmly, looking at Ed, and in no hurry 
to leave.

The commotion attracted Ed's littermate (Miss Cat, spayed female), and
she approached the screen door very slowly.  As soon as Ed saw her, he went
totally out of control.  He started screaming at HER!  I've never heard him 
carry on like this -- he's normally a pretty laid back cat, and other than
occasional minor incidents my two cats get along very well.  After screaming,
shrieking, and hissing at her in quick succession, he bolted away at top
speed, and she took off after him.  She cornered him in the dining room, and
he continued to scream/shriek at her, and struggled to get out from the
corner and get past her.  Again, this is unheard of in our house since Ed
is "top cat", and is usually the one doing the chasing!  

We just managed to grab Miss Cat, and Ed managed to escape upstairs, but
Miss Cat struggled free from us and ran upstairs after him.  She cornered
him in the bedroom, there was a lot more shrieking, and when we got there
he had just managed to squeeze behind a chest of drawers to escape and we
captured her by putting a laundry basket over her!  We got her out of the
room and closed the door.  We sat with Ed, stroking him and trying to calm
him down and reassure him, but he acted as if he wanted to be left alone,
so we left him in the bedroom for twenty minutes.  When we went to check
on him, he seemed OK (but very jumpy -- he kept looking over his shoulder).
We let him out of the bedroom, and watched to see what would happen when
he passed his 'sister' in the hall, and everything was fine!  He walked
past her and headed down the stairs.  He carefully checked out every room 
downstairs and seemed to be looking for the "other cat".

So, I don't know what to make of all this.  Could it be that he was so worked 
up over this visiting cat that he didn't recognize his own 'sister', and 
thought she was a 'foreign' cat that had somehow gotten into our house?  And, 
since cats normally try to defend their territory, why did he run away? (I 
should mention that he's been taking Ovaban, a progesterone, for a couple 
of weeks for a medical problem, and it has definitely effected him -- he's 
much less active and aggressive than usual.)  I've never seen Ed so frightened 
and upset -- I'm wondering if some of his reaction was due to frustration 
(not being able to scare the other cat off the deck, in spite of a furious 
display of growling and hissing!)

Any thoughts?  Have any of you ever had one of your cats suddenly react to 
another member of your cat household as if it's a total (and unwelcome) 
stranger?

Thanks for your help and advice!

- Debbie.
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3558.1My cats do it, too.CGVAX2::LANDRYCloser to the HeartTue May 01 1990 09:1414
    Yes, Debbie, my cats do the same thing.  They are indoor cats only, and
    when I let them out on the screen porch, if there is another cat in the
    yard, Spunks tail usually blows up like a wire brush and she starts on
    Zildjian.  Of course, Zildjian does not take any of her you know what,
    so they end up with Spunks chasing Zildjian into the bedroom.  I try to
    break it up cuz Spunks is pretty strong, but Zildjian has it in her to
    rip one of Spunks' eyes out.  I end up putting Spunks out of sight for
    awhile so she can calm down.  She has even turned on me once cuz she
    was so riled up over another cat.  
    
    All in a days work.  That's what makes cats so mysterious.
    
    Anna/Zildjian/Spunks
    
3558.2"ditto"BOOVX2::MANDILETue May 01 1990 11:048
    Sure, this happens quite often.  We get "visitors" from the
    neighborhood on the porch, and the four neutered guys start in 
    on each other, depending on how close the cat comes to the door.
    It also happens whenever one comes home from the vet.  I think
    its the strange smell of the vet's on them, but they get over
    it quickly.
            
    L-
3558.3CIRCUS::KOLLINGKaren/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca.Tue May 01 1990 13:343
    I have no idea why aggression "transfers" like this, but it
    happens all the time with my cats.
    
3558.4They get soooooo mad!!ELMAGO::RSTOLLIf it ain't one thing, it's anotherTue May 01 1990 14:1310
    I think it's because they're so upset about another cat being on
    their turf and they can't go out and kick a**.  One day I heard
    Rocky outside growling and making a hell of a fuss, so I ran outside
    and saw him and another cat doing the staring bit in the "meatloaf"
    position.  I'm always scared that Rocky might lose an eye or something
    so I scared the other cat away and went to scoot Rocky back in the
    house AND HE WAS MAD!! He spit at me a dozen times all the way back
    to the door. I don't call him Rocky for nothing!
    
    Robyn, Rocky & Smokey
3558.5CSCOA5::MCFARLAND_Dalferetter boundTue May 01 1990 15:0815
    re: .1 and .4
    
    the worst cat scratch i ever got was when i tried to take stella away
    from the window when she was hissing/growling/spitting, etc. at a cat
    outdoors.  stella has always been fiercely territorial (more so, even,
    than stanley).  on this particular occasion, she had run back and forth
    from the bedroom window to the sliding glass door on the deck, trying
    to get a better view of the interloper.  i was worried, 'cuz it seemed
    she had agitated herself into a frenzy.  i made the mistake of trying
    to pick her up from the windowsill, and she hissed at me and lashed out
    and clawed the h*ll out of my hand. i had never seen so much blood--all
    over me, her, the curtains... ack!
    
    stella, stanley, & diane
                                                                        
3558.6Crazy kitties.CRUISE::NDCPutiput Scottish Folds - DTN: 297-2313Tue May 01 1990 15:2923
    We, too, have had a similar event.  I think catcount was 4 at the time.
    Mao often has hairballs and she would yodel before vomitting.  Well
    one night I heard this very loud yodelling coming from the kitchen.
    I recognized it for a distress call and bolted for the kitchen.
    When I entered I interrupted a staring contest between Mao and
    a cat outside the window.  Don't ask me how he got up there because
    the window is four feet off the ground and there's nothing to stand
    on. 
      Anyway, Mao lept off the windowsill, over the table and proceded to
    attack Bumpy & Isis.  Of course, I'm running around the kitchen
    screaming as loud as the cats.  I did manage to grab Isis who was
    so scared she pee'd all over me and the rug.  
     I had to separate the cats in different rooms.  Mao and Bumpy calmed
    down fairly quickly, but Isis took about an hour.
    
    The other day they were out on their leashes and Mao got badly tangled
    in her's and Isis's.  I came out and found the leashes wrapped around
    her legs.  she was yowling because it hurt and Isis kept trying to
    run away which pulled the leash tighter and made it hurt more, then
    Isis would get frustrated that she couldn't get away and run up and
    bat Mao on the head at which point Dundee would run over and hit
    them both.  Good grief!!  What a bunch.
      Nancy DC
3558.7he's just jealous!FENNEL::WATSONTue May 01 1990 16:4111
    Benj gets real upset about cats on the porch too.  Twice in the last
    couple years, he's gone flying to the door and hit the glass sliders so
    hard that he falls down, temporarily dazed.  I've learned "my" lesson
    on this, so now try to beat him to the door and prevent him from doing
    it!
    
    I think he's afraid another cat's going to get in, and he'll have to
    share his "hands on, high touch" with it.  No amount of reassurance
    helps, and he usually ends up hissing at me!
    
    Deb and Benj
3558.8Thanks for the info!XANADU::CHRISTOPHERWed May 02 1990 01:369
Thanks to all of you who replied!  It's reassuring to hear that this is
pretty common behavior, and that my two have not suddenly taken a dislike
to each other!  Now I know to watch out for this sort of thing whenever
a "visitor" comes by.

Cats are definitely intriguing!  I keep trying to figure them out, and
they keep surprising me!  

- Debbie/Miss Cat/Ed