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| 3093.1 | | CIRCUS::KOLLING | Karen/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca. | Tue Nov 28 1989 20:22 | 10 |
| Actually, things sound promising. That is, real mayhem isn't
occuring. First off, are the semi-kittens old enough to be
altered? That will help. Mostly it is just a matter of them
getting used to each other; they have to work it out themselves.
They will each want your attention, so give them cuddles, but be sure
not to reinforce bad behavior -- that is, if one attacks the other,
cuddle the attackee not the attacker. Your older cat in particular
needs to be reassured that he isn't being replaced nad so he needs
extra attention for awhile.
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| 3093.2 | | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | OutOfBrookIntoGladeEverybodyProminade | Tue Nov 28 1989 23:15 | 20 |
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Big discovery... the two kittens aren't female,
they are both male ... :')
The big cat now sits in a corner where he can't
be reached and mopes. Whenever I try to go near
him, he hisses, and if I persist, he will bite
and pseudo-scratch (declawed). He has NEVER
scratched, bitten or acted like this since I've
owned him. He's very quiet normally, now he just
growls and is very pissed off. I'm trying to
give him extra attention, but he just wants to be
left alone. Any clue how long this will persist?
Thanks, Rob who wishes the big guy would act
normal... wonder how he's going to like the
ferret I may be getting ... :')
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| 3093.3 | | ROYALT::MORRISSEY | Black lace on sweat | Wed Nov 29 1989 08:57 | 16 |
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Hi Rob! Cancel the mail message I sent you as I take it
you've decided to keep the little guys...
It takes a long time for a cat to get used to a new one..
nevermind two. Our oldest snob-kitty Brandi is just now
starting to get used to Duke. And we've had him since March.
Give them time. If you don't see blood, don't worry. =)
Your older kitty will eventually come to at least tolerate
them. It just takes a lot of patience and understanding
and attention to your older cat.
Good luck!!
JJ
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| 3093.4 | | SANFAN::FOSSATJU | | Wed Nov 29 1989 13:26 | 13 |
| Congratulations on your new additions - you did a wonderful thing
taking them in.
We added a kitten with two existing 4 year olds - one male-one female.
The fur flew on and off for about 3 weeks, the older ones sulked
and carried on like brats (I even called the cat behavior hot-line
to see if this was all within normal limits and was told it was).
They are the best of friends now - be patient and things will work
out just fine.
Giudi in SF (Pippin, Gino & Stitch Too)
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| 3093.5 | Time and a little patience.... | ASABET::MCDONOUGH | | Wed Nov 29 1989 15:22 | 20 |
| See next note...I just recently introduced a new "kid" to a
household complete with 10 dogs and three other cats...
The dogs spent about 10 minutes sniffing close to the new
kitty....but not "TOOOO" close...since they recognize the fact that
cats are "armed and dangerous".
The other three cats spent about three days having "standoffs" at
about 10 feet plus...down on their bellies....hissing and growling, but
never getting anywhere close to each other.
After the three days, the new kid and the youngest of the resident
cats were eating out of the same dish, playing "bounce-offa-da-wall"
games and sleeping in a pile of legs 'n fur..... Now they ALL cuddle up
together in a huge fuzz-ball.....
RARELY do these introductions become violent, except in the case of
two breeding males and a female in heat... it can take awhile to salve
the egos of the "resident" kitty's though...
JMcDz
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| 3093.6 | Family Feud | USEM::MCQUEENEY | Bob - US/FDC Ops. Manager | Wed Nov 29 1989 15:29 | 23 |
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The same situation has gone on in my household on numerous
occasions over the years. Smoke I have had for more than ten years
now. I added Ruffles (the wonder cat) back in '87, and they didn't
get on too well for a long time. Even today, they are simply cordial
with each other, and not very close. In '88, I added Nightmare,
who unfortunately doesn't seem to like ANYBODY. This year, I kept
two of Nightmare's kittens. They get on ideally with each other,
and with Smoke, but Ruffles (the wonder cat) and Nightmare fight
with them whenever they're within reach.
Be advised, your original cat may not EVER get along with the
pseudo-kittens. In some cases, the best you can hope for is that
they'll ignore each other. As far as the biting and clawing is
concerned, that's just kitty jealousy, and might take a while to
decline. Just be as patient and comforting as you can, and let
him know that he's still your close companion. In time, he'll come
around.
Good luck!
McQ
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| 3093.7 | | PFLOYD::ROTHBERG | Boil that dust speck!!! | Wed Nov 29 1989 20:07 | 18 |
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Thanks for all the help. I really hope that the
MSPCA will do something about this. I got the
plate, and on top of it, I know the woman's
daughter! I'm just wondering about the fate of
the rest of the litter. Things do seem to be
going smoother already. The old guy is out
wandering about a bit more and even used his
litterbox today. He goes and sits on top of the
cable converter box (his favorite spot, can't
wait to see what happens when the others are big
enough to be able to get up there) and watches
the other two. My girlfriend is stopping by
tonight with her female 10week old kitty. This
ought to be interesting...
- rob -
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| 3093.8 | | CRUISE::NDC | DTN: 297-2313 | Thu Nov 30 1989 07:44 | 14 |
| Congratulations on your new additions!! And you deserve alot
of credit for going after that creep who just tossed the kittens
into your snowbank. What a jerk!!!! (I'm being polite....)
Sounds like things are progressing pretty normally. Some cats
will crave more attention when you bring in a new kitty, others
want to go off and sulk. Let the cat do what he wants and get
the new additions neutered asap. That will help the situation.
I have applications for low cost neuter certificates. Give
me a call at the above dtn, or shoot me a mail message and
I'll see if there's a convenient participating vet for you.
Take care.
Nancy DC
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| 3093.9 | | CUPMK::TRACHMAN | Exotic Shorthairs=NO Grooming | Thu Nov 30 1989 10:08 | 20 |
| Time, time, time, and lots more time. Extra love for the
older cat!! Lots of attention - as much as he will allow
you to give him - if he won't let you touch him, talk, and
talk and talk to him and talk to him some more. Dangle
a string in front of him, see if he will play! Take one
or both of the kittens butt end first and let him sniff
the youngsters. Butt sniffing really helps. He will at
least be able to identify the new smells in 'his' house.
GOT GET THAT JERK THAT DUMPED THOSE BABIES. Give them
hell for all of us!
Enjoy your babies and keep us posted with lots of stories -
don't be discouraged - 3 month babies and an older cat will
work in time (in most cases). Do try the butt sniffing!
You may be surprised.
Good Luck,
E.T.
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| 3093.10 | Still not getting along. | BAGELS::MATSIS | | Fri Dec 01 1989 14:13 | 17 |
| Well here's an update on Chewy, our 2 1/2 year old "mutt" (female)and Zula,
our 6 month old Abysinnian(male). I've had Zula for 2 months now and
Chewy is still sleeping on the Kitchen Cabinets. Chewy hasn't slept
with us in the two months since we have had Zula. Poor Zula is
trying so hard to be friends with Chewy but Chewy will have nothing
to do with him. Zula gets very excited when a neibors cat comes
up to the window. She sits there playing with them through the
window. Chewy still growls and hisses at Zula but not quite as
much as in the beginning. She has never tried to harm Zula. Just
won't go near him. She even growls at me if Zula is in the room.
I'm hoping when Zula gets neutered (in about 5 more weeks) that
he may calm down a bit and maybe Chewy will mellow out. Half the
problem is that Zula jumps on Chewy's back whenever Chewy is trying
to come into the apt or go outside (that's the only time she is
on the floor). Zula wants to PLAY! Chewy doesn't.
Pam
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| 3093.11 | Nine Months for Tasha | LYMPH::SWANT | Can't get away from basics | Fri Dec 01 1989 14:34 | 24 |
| Don't give up hope, some just take longer than others.
Tasha normally takes nine months to adjust to a new cat -- old or
young new cat. He is now 14� and he still takes nine months.
When Tasha was only two he snuck up on Sammy (about three) who was a
recent addition to the family and still sick after being rescued
from outdoors. Sammy was purring on my lap and Tasha crept up
and sniffed Sammy's tail so gently I thought "Oh good, they're
going to be friends." Tasha crept closer and sniffed the middle
of Sam's tail. Then he crept up to the base of Sam's tail and
Crunch!
Tasha bit right through Sammy's tail. Those puncture wounds are
great -- just pour disinfectant in one side and it runs out the
other.
Now, Tasha just fades away when a new cat enters the family & he
runs if they chase him. After nine months he becomes fast
friends and cuddles and grooms the new one. He also eventually
assumes dominate status over each one.
-- Julie
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| 3093.12 | | BAGELS::MATSIS | | Fri Dec 01 1989 15:12 | 19 |
| Ouch! Poor Sammy.
Chewy just runs away. She can growl very LOUD and it doesn't phase
Zula in the least. Poor Zula. I let him out on the porch the other
night because the neibers cat was looking in. Zula went out and
they were nose to nose and Zula was all happy that he had a buddy.
Then the other cat hissed and growled at Zula. Poor thing. He
probably thinks that't the way a cat is supposed to talk now.
That's all he hears.
So there's still hope huh? I figured it will take her 6 months
anyway. My husband thinks we should get a playmate for Zula but
I think that may just make matters worse for Chewy. Let her adjust
to one at a time. I would like the limit to be two anyways.
(doesn't sound like much next to everyones 5, 10 15 .....).
Thanks for the hope.
Pam
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| 3093.13 | help............. | CGVAX2::WEISMAN | | Tue Dec 05 1989 09:35 | 37 |
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I'm so glad someone brought up this subject again as I need advice.
We have had Nikki since April (7 months) and things are *worse* now
with Tasha Marie and not getting any better. When we first got
Nikki and for the first few months she seemed to at least tolerate
him to a point. But now the problem is this---Tasha Maire refuses
to stay in the house!!! and I just don't know what to do about it.
Granted she always was pretty much an outdoor cat, but she usually
slept in at night and spent part of her day in the house especially
in the winter. Now she comes in to eat, then runs to the door to
go out again and cries until we let her out.
I've thought about forcing her to stay in but I feel this will only
upset her more, as it is obvious she is already extremely nervous.
(She's always been a nervous cat anyway). Also, I'm afraid if
I force her to stay in, the next time she goes out she won't want
to come back in at all.
I just don't like the idea of her staying out all night in this
weather. We have a boat with a tarp on it, and I assume she has
been staying in there.
I'd like to add that her health is fine, she eats well, and is
quite friendly and nice when we talk to her outside. I'd also
like to say I feel she is being unreasonable about Nikki. He
doesn't bother her that much. I mean he *is* a kitten- he likes
to watch her eat and sleep and will occaisionally go up and bop her.
But he's only trying to play. I think Tasha feels she just can't relax
for 2 seconds in the house.
If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know, I'd love to hear
them.
Donna
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| 3093.14 | | CIRCUS::KOLLING | Karen/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca. | Tue Dec 05 1989 13:53 | 3 |
| Gee, this is hard. Could you shut Nikki into a separate part of the
house at night?
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| 3093.15 | she stayed in last night | CGVAX2::WEISMAN | | Wed Dec 06 1989 09:02 | 18 |
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Well, Tasha slept in last night. I can't believe it!
She wanted to go out first thing this morning but it proves
that she will come in (I think she finally decided Nikki was
better than 5 below zero) if she needs to.
I can't really put Nikki in a separate room. I live in a small
cottage type house with no cellar. I wish I had a cellar, cats
love them. Even if I did shut him up at night I don't think
it would help. Tasha just comes in, eats, and then wants to go
back out even if she does not see Nikki.
I'm just glad she stayed in last night. Its a start anyway.
Donna
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| 3093.16 | | BAGELS::MATSIS | | Thu Dec 07 1989 10:21 | 8 |
| I'm just wondering. I never gave Chewy cat nip before. I wonder
if I gave her some if it would mellow her out for a while and maybe
I could stick her on the floor with Zula to see what happens. Maybe
she could stand him better. For the last couple of days Chewy has
been comming down off of the cabinets but Zula is there to chase
her around the house and back up she goes.
Pam
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| 3093.17 | | CRUISE::NDC | DTN: 297-2313 | Fri Dec 08 1989 07:43 | 9 |
| You could try it Pam but hang around and watch because 1. Not
all cats react to, or like catnip and 2. Some cats react to it
by becoming excited and aggressive, not mellow. You'll need to
see what Chewy's personal reaction is. All of our cats love it
- Jesse lays there and drools (on everything!), Isis and Dundee
and Mao get playful - Bumpy a bit less so and Flame just rolls
and rolls and rolls around in it.
Nancy DC
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| 3093.18 | | CIRCUS::KOLLING | Karen/Sweetie/Holly/Little Bit Ca. | Fri Dec 08 1989 13:52 | 2 |
| Strew it around in a wide enough area also that they won't fight over it.
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