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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

2954.0. "How Infectious is FIP?" by HDLITE::FEASE (Andrea Midtmoen Fease) Tue Oct 17 1989 20:17

    Hi All,
    
         As many of you know, both of my cats have a high FIP titer
    (1:2048 - 1:4096, depending on their moods).  My husband and I will be
    gone for a week and a half, and I have two sitters ready to cat sit for
    me.
    
         One of my sitters asked her vet about FIP and was told that she
    was taking a tremendous risk in taking care of my cats (she would be
    visiting, not taking my boys to her home in contact with her cats). 
    Her vet seems to feel that if the virus is being shedded, that she
    could pick it up on her clothes and that the virus would live long
    enough to infect her kitties.
    
         My vets at Tufts and my mother's vet in NY (she has a cat with an
    immune deficiency disease, so he can't get sick or he would die) seem
    to say that there is no way that the FIP virus can live in air for that
    long.
    
         As you can see, nobody really knows.
    
         My question is:  should I try to get sitters that have no cats? 
    The disadvantage to that, of course, is that they might not know if my
    cats are sick.  However, I do not want my sitters' kitties to be at any
    risk.
    
         Can any of you tell me if FIP is infectious when there is no
    direct cat-to-cat contact, only cat-to-human-to-cat contact?
    
         Thanks!
    
                                           - Andrea
    
                                                            
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2954.1Ask the Pro'sBIMINI::SPINGLERWed Oct 18 1989 10:4411
    
    
    THe best source for this information is your own vet or the vet
    of the cat sitter, or both.  
    
    They should be able to give you good information.
    
    Feline fine,
    
    Sue & panther & Spot
    
2954.2HDLITE::FEASEAndrea Midtmoen FeaseWed Oct 18 1989 14:1214
    Hi Sue,
    
         My vets say that it can't be transferred by cat-to-human-to-cat
    contact.  Her vet says that it can.
    
         I would think if it were that contagious that *all* cats touched
    by vets would get it, as vets don't sterilize/burn their clothes
    between touching FIP cats and non-FIP cats.
    
         Don't know what to do.  I certainly don't want her kitties getting
    sick, but I never heard of it being transmitted this way.
    
                                         - Andrea
    
2954.3Just my opinionTUNER::JENKINSWed Oct 18 1989 16:3328
    Andrea,
    
    My vet has told me that there isn't truly enough known about titer
    counts to be certain that a high titer means FIP.  As known, only
    a biopsy of organ tissue that appears affected can be certain for
    FIP.
    
    I would think that if someone came into your house to take care
    of your kittens they could manage not to transmit anything home
    by using various precautions that may or may not be necessary.
    
    First, they could change their clothes when they get home and
    immediately put those clothes into the washer.  Secondly they
    should wash their hands and spray their shoes with Roccal D which
    is a very strong disinfectant.  My vet highly recommends this. 
    I too had a kitten that once exhibited a high titer but it was not
    FIP and her titer was back to normal within one month.  Certain
    sanitary precautions can be taken and everything should be fine.
    
    If you wish to talk to another vet call Cornell since they have
    a research department for studying FIP.  I think you will find though
    that a different opinion is given by just about every vet you talk
    to.
    
    P.S. you might want to try to test your cats at another lab just
    for comparison.
    
    Nancy
2954.4WR2FOR::CORDESBRO_JOset home/cat_max=infinityFri Oct 20 1989 13:5815
    Andrea,
    
    There was an article about FIP in one of the cat magazines in the
    last month or so.  The article stated that FIP is not a hardy virus
    and cannot survive outside the host.  Everything that I have heard
    and read agrees with this.  
    
    If your sitter is concerned, she could spray herself down with
    disinfectant, either the one that Nancy mentioned, or with Nolvasan
    (which I prefer).  
    
    I also know of cats who have lived with FIP positive cats and yet
    never caught the disease.
    
    Jo
2954.5AIADM::FEASEAndrea Midtmoen FeaseMon Oct 30 1989 10:2119
    Hi Jo,
    
         Well, my other sitter did a *wonderful* job with the boys; they
    were happy and healthy when we got home last night.
    
         I didn't think the FIP virus could survive outside a host, but
    since it is still so unknown, I can understand why my first sitter
    didn't want to take the chance.  And as it worked out my second sitter
    was able to take care of the boys for the whole time, so everything
    came out okay.
    
         I know what you're saying; Loki and Bigfoot are positive, Fluffy
    was always negative.  But I guess Fluffy had something else wrong with
    him, some kind of bone marrow disorder.  We'll never know, but at least
    he didn't linger on or suffer.
    
         Had a wonderful vacation, and now it's off to a new job!
    
                                      - Andrea