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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

2608.0. "explanation for removing 2599" by LEVERS::E_MCDONALD () Fri Jun 23 1989 11:54

    I have recieved messages from People about note 2599 concerning
    Gus.  The messages have mentioned cases of Gus harrasing people
    in Sterling for doing just what I did and threatening their
    pets.  So unfortunately I deleted the note so that I can avoid
    having nightmares.  The note and other info will be sent to
    several sources.  
    
    Please contact me if you want or need info on the Shelter.
    Sorry people I love animals but I love mine too much to risk
    them.
    
    Contact me at LEVERS::e_mcdonald if you need information.
    
    It is also a good idea to call other shelters.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Elaine
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2608.1How do we stop this from happening?HPSTEK::BOURGAULTFri Jun 23 1989 14:2118
    
    Elaine,
    
    	I don't blame you at all for removing note 2599.  I just hope
    for you and your pets it isn't too late.  I think it did good while
    it was there.  Those who read the notes regularly got the warning.
    
    	Is there anything us ordinary folks can do about something
    like this?  I keep thinking there is strength in numbers and if
    enough people complain to the right places, something would be done.
    I just have no idea where the right place is or how to complain to
    them.
    
    	If you prefer to reply to this off-line, please feel free.  I
    just want to make sure this sort of thing gets stopped.
    
    Faith
2608.2FSHQA2::RWAXMANA Cat Makes a Purrfect FriendFri Jun 23 1989 15:484
    What I don't understand is why Mr. Elliot was allowed to open a
    new shelter after everything that was printed and confirmed about
    his previous one!  That aspect of the story makes absolutely no
    sense to me!!
2608.3So sad the effect a few can haveREGENT::GETTYSBob Gettys N1BRM 235-8285Sun Jun 25 1989 13:4716
        Elaine,
                
                I'm sorry that you had to remove the note on "Gus". I
        certainly thought you had more than sufficient basis to enter
        such a note and also thought that you handled the situation very
        well.  It really is too bad that a few amongst us can cause so
        much grief for those of us that that do care about being "in
        touch with reality". I'm sure the detractors were amongst the
        minotity (although definitely vocal). In any event - thanks for
        having the courage to enter such a note and I hope that someone
        will have the courage to again enter such a note when the need
        arises (and it will).
                
              Thanks again
                
                /s/     Bob
2608.4what we are doingLEVERS::E_MCDONALDMon Jun 26 1989 13:5122
    From another mail message I recieved, he apparently paid some fines
    or something like that.  Because the message said that people at the
    Sterling Town meeting complained but that the majority of people
    felt that he should have a second chance.  I would not have agreed.
    From my experience at town meetings people can be easily swayed
    by a free cup of coffee and a donut so they probably didn't think
    about it much.  He also managed to threaten one person  who complained
    about him after the meeting.
    
    What we are planning on is complaining to 3 anti-abuse orginization.
    This will probably trigger the orginazations to look into it.  They
    will probably call the shelter and let them know that a complaint
    has been made.  Hopefully this will scare them enough so that they
    make sure the animals are treated properly.  If more people get
    animals from the shelter that are abused and call the orginizations
    then they will probably try to take the liscense away.
                                                           
    Thanks,
    
    Elaine
    What I don't understand is why don't they go into some other business.
    I suggest they open a donut shop (that sounds pretty safe to me).
2608.5hope I'm not too lateSHAPES::TAYLORSSharon, Dillan & Sammie in UKWed Sep 27 1989 07:396
    Elaine
    
    Please read 2599.33
               
    
    Sharon