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2422.1 | CFA info on HHP's | YOSMTE::CORDESBRO_JO | | Tue May 02 1989 13:52 | 19 |
| I can only tell you about the judging criteria for CFA. Household
pets are judged on their health, grooming, temperament, and personal
appeal to the judge. There is no written standard for household
pets in CFA. They must be completely clean, with nails clipped,
no fleas, clear, bright eyes, clean ears, etc. CFA will not allow
declawed cats to be shown.
The cat must also be amenable to handling, if the judge cannot put
the cat down on the judging table, then the cat can be disqualified
in the ring. A cat that acts in a recalcitrant or threatening manner
can also be disqualified from that judge's ring.
Showing household pets is very fun and rewarding. Just make sure
that your cats are scrupulously clean and healthy. I would recommend
showing in another association (other than CFA) since the other
associations do more for household pets. Especially in the east.
Seems that the CFA shows out there are giving HHP's less and less.
Jo
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2422.2 | There goes Cloudy! | CIMNET::PRIESTLEY | | Tue May 02 1989 14:01 | 7 |
| Well, that would take cloud out of it--but I knew that already. He
won't stay still when he feels threatened, and that seems to be most of
the time, but Opus is such a sweetheart, she might just be able to do
it!
Thanks,
Michelle
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2422.3 | | JULIET::APODACA_KI | In the Palace of my Shame... | Tue May 02 1989 14:08 | 10 |
| just what would you do to prepare yourself and your household kitty
for showing? it sounds like a great way to "practice"--like if
someday you'd like to purchase a purebred. my ash-face couldn't
show (bleh) because she's declawed, and poor old bones is just not
in scrupulous shape and never will be (chronic skin and teeth problems
along with arthritis), but the idea of showing a pet appeals to
me. i would just never know how to get started....is there a note
that covers that already?
---kim
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2422.4 | some ideas of how to prepare | YOSMTE::CORDESBRO_JO | | Tue May 02 1989 15:13 | 26 |
| Kim, Freeway would be perfect to show! I have already been working
with him on it. You should see him do the "show cat stretch"!
One of the things that you could do is have lots of people handle
or hold your cat. Your cat will be held and handled by at least
four strangers (in a one day show) at the show, and he should be
able to allow that. Whenever anyone comes to your house, ask them
to hold your cat. Show them the ways that judges hold cats and
ask them to do that. Take you kitty on car trips to places other
than the vet. Alot of first time show kitties have never been in
the car except to go to the vet, so they arrive at the show very
stressed.
Get your cat used to being bathed. They must be very clean to be
shown. Most exhibitors bathe their cats before every show. That
is alot of bathing. Your cat must be up to it. You must also trim
the nails on all four paws.
You will also need to make some type of covering for your cat's
benching cage at the show. Show rules require that the top, bottom,
and three sides be covered. You can make fancy cage drapes, or
use sheets, towels and bathrugs. It is up to you.
That is all I can think of for now.
Jo
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2422.5 | | CRUISE::NDC | | Tue May 02 1989 15:29 | 4 |
| And if you do decide to get a purebred, I highly recommend Scottish
Folds. They have a very sweet, laid-back disposition that is a
definite advantage in a show.
Nancy DC
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2422.6 | I know where you can get one, close too! | YOSMTE::CORDESBRO_JO | | Tue May 02 1989 15:44 | 6 |
| Of course we are all biased about our breeds, but since the topic
came up.... I recommend you get a Birman, for the same reasons.
;^)
Jo
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2422.7 | | WITNES::HANNULA | Well, you see, I have this cat....... | Tue May 02 1989 16:33 | 15 |
| I've also been thinking of showing either Oscar or Elmo. Is there
an age limit for showing? Oscar will be 2 this month, Elmo just
turned 1. Or is this the perfect excuse to get another kitten?
What about size. Oscar and Elmo are both on the small size, though
Elmo keps growing. Oscar is remaining a midget.
And Pennie, what do you do about DDEW? At times, Elmo looks like
he poured wet tar in his ears, and I'm hesitant to stick anything
in his ears to clean them. You know the old nothing smaller than
your elbow rule.
Do you have to bring any health or shot records?
-Nancy
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2422.8 | | YOSMTE::CORDESBRO_JO | | Tue May 02 1989 17:12 | 22 |
| The only age limit is that if they are older than 8 months, they
must be spayed/neutered.
Size is no object. Judges preference prevails here.
I don't remember about DDEW (what it stands for) but isn't it very
dirty waxy ears? Have your vet clean them before the show. If
it can't be cleaned, don't show that cat since the judges may think
the cat has mites.
There are no requirements to bring health or shot records, but the
CFA show rules recommend that the cats be innoculated prior to starting
his show career (or in your case, keep up your boosters). Most
shows today are not "vetted" shows. Vetted shows actually require
your cat to be examined be a licensed Vet prior to entering the
show hall. The HHP show in December (in California) takes 225 cats,
and requires each and every one to be checked out by one of the
two vets present prior to entering the show hall. If your cat doesn't
pass the exam, then you are sent home. You should also test your
cat for Leukemia before entering him in a show.
Jo
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2422.9 | | WITNES::HANNULA | Well, you see, I have this cat....... | Tue May 02 1989 17:43 | 2 |
| DDEW = Pennie's acronym for Disgustingly Dirty Ear Wax
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2422.10 | how did i know this was going to come up? ;D | JULIET::APODACA_KI | In the Palace of my Shame... | Tue May 02 1989 19:06 | 13 |
| jo (hah, i'm SURE it's you this time!--i think), actually i was
thinking about your kitties at one point cause i thought, god, they
are nice looking cats for long hairs (i'm the one who doesn't like
persians much, remember), and besides, i thought, well, i already
know a good breeder close by (you). but of course, this isn't
sometehing that's going to happen until i get a place where i can
have more than a few pets, and to be quite honest, the one cat i
saw that really caught me eye was a somali. gorgeous, gorgeous,
gorgeous. :)
(and yes, nancy, i think scottish folds are adorable too!) ;)
---kim
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2422.11 | | JULIET::APODACA_KI | In the Palace of my Shame... | Tue May 02 1989 19:14 | 18 |
| oh, and re: the suggestions.
bathing is not a problem--i have always bathed a cat (and sure,
i've my share of major squirmers, but my two are pretty calm. they
don't like it, but they don't claw me to death either and don't
even hide afterwards (of course, it's lick lick lick until everything
is JUST right!)
and i also try to acclimate them to the car--they are not bad, just
meow a bit and sit in my lap (i don't presently own a kitty cage,
working on that one). so i guess that's two of the probs licked
(i mean, i don't have to try anything new). the claw clipping i
do, but just to square them off so bones's toes don't hook into
my sofa, my chair, my bed comforter, my skin....
thanks for the tips!
kim
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2422.12 | An offer with ulterior motives | SCRUZ::CORDES_JA | Clogging is my life! | Tue May 02 1989 21:42 | 15 |
| Kim,
(Its Jan this time) I'm planning on entering my 2 household pets
in the show on May 27 & 28th at the San Jose Convention Center.
Actually, Dave will be agenting them on Saturday since my sister,
Jaci, is graduating from college. But, if you're interested in
tagging along on 1 or both days you're certainly welcome. You'd
get a good idea of what you have to look forward to when Freeway
is ready to show and you'd get to see how a sweet, overweight
cat (Amelia) and a grumpy gus (Bailey) do in the show ring. I'll
be bathing Bailey on Thursday 5/25 and Amelia on Friday 5/26 if
you want to come get some experience with grooming for a show ;^)
(ya gotta try and find help where ya can, ya know).
Jan
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2422.13 | all my ulteriors are spoken for already... | JULIET::APODACA_KI | In the Palace of my Shame... | Wed May 03 1989 13:34 | 9 |
| Jan (hah--I looked anyway to be sure this time!), I have school
on Thursday nites, and Friday I generally work late, so I can't
make promised to help kitty-bathe. however, i did plan on (there
goes the caps again i know) to go to the show one or both days
(probably sunday i think) so i am bound to see you there. otherwise,
if my weeks weren't so spoken for already, i would be glad to help
you out! :(
---kim
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2422.14 | | SCRUZ::CORDES_JA | Clogging is my life! | Wed May 03 1989 16:52 | 14 |
| Well, it was worth a try anyway.
Hope to see you there on Sunday at least. I haven't entered either
cat yet (have to do that soon) but look for us in the catalog under
the household pet section. They'll be listed as:
Bailey's Irish Cream
Amelia Earhart
At least then you can get our cage numbers. If you can't find me
in the hall go to the announcer and ask them for the owner of cat
#... and I'll come find you.
Jan
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2422.15 | I'll see you either that Saturday or Sunday | REDWOD::GRAFTON | | Thu May 04 1989 12:25 | 8 |
| Jo and Jan,
Come next January, you may see us at some of the shows, thanks to Linda
Donaldson and her Japanese Bobtails. (I'm not sure yet; we're still
discussing.) How much does it cost to enter a cat in a show?
Jill
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2422.16 | Save your pennies | YOSMTE::CORDESBRO_JO | | Thu May 04 1989 15:49 | 15 |
| Jill, an 8 ring Allbreed show costs about $45-50 per cat. If you
are only showing one cat, you should ask for a double cage and pay
the extra $10-15 for it. Also, you may want a Groom space which
will run about $10-20 depending on the show.
A one day 4 ring show can run anywhere from $20 per cat to $30 per
cat depending on the club. Clubs set their own fees, so there are
variations.
Basically, it costs Ken and I about $120 a weekend to show our cats.
It is a great hobby if you have a lot of disposable income. That
$120 only covers the entry fees, doesn't even touch transportation,
lodging, meals, etc.
Jo
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2422.17 | How about a book or a pamphlet? | REDWOD::GRAFTON | | Fri May 05 1989 12:14 | 14 |
| Thanks, Jo.
Linda is doing her best to get me into three shows with one of her
mi-kes. She's sending me pictures, and Jim and I are "discussing". :-)
She even offered to show her for me. Can't ask for much more than
that, huh? Since we've been thinking about entering Gandalf at least
once anyway, this seems like a good way to go. Is there a book I can read
about cat shows and judging? Linda offered all of her help (believe
me, I know nuttin' about showin' no kitties) but I would prefer to
learn what I can on my own. She's got lots to do already.
Thanks,
Jill
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2422.18 | | YOSMTE::CORDESBRO_JO | | Fri May 05 1989 14:30 | 35 |
| The best way to learn is to go to a show and watch. Not just walk
around and see all the pretty cats, but watch what the exbibitors
do, watch what the judges do, etc.
Most cat books have a section on showing, but the information is
mostly outdated, and isn't always aplicable to the association you
are showing in.
The other way to learn is to enter your cat and find out. That
is how I did it. You can ask to be "benched" near Linda so that
if you have a question she is there to answer. Each exhibitor gets
one benching request, and the club will usually honor that request
unless circumstances are such that they can't (for instance, if
20 people said they wanted to be next to Linda).
You can order show rules and show standards from CFA. The show
rules won't really tell you much about what goes on, it is more
of an outline of everyone's responsibilities at the show, how points
will be awarded, who is eligible for entry, etc. Actually, if you
plan on showing, you should get the show rules. The standards are
a absolute MUST! They outline the characteristics that each cat
must have in order to compete, and also which characteristics each
cat cannot have. Just send a check for $4.00 to:
CFA
1309 Allaire Ave.
Ocean, NJ 07712
Be sure to ask for the show rules and standards.
Jo
PS- I will be at both of the upcoming May shows and would be willing
to answer your questions.
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2422.19 | Thanks | REDWOD::GRAFTON | | Mon May 08 1989 13:06 | 17 |
| Jo,
Thanks for the info. I'll order the rules and standards. We're going
to visit Linda this weekend to see the kitten. Her pictures are
ADORABLE!! Linda said she has a sweet, outgoing personality, too, and
that she doesn't mind being held in Superkitty fashion like they do in
the shows.
< PS- I will be at both of the upcoming May shows and would be willing
< to answer your questions.
*Both* shows? I only know of the one on May 27-28. Where and when is
the other one?
Thanks,
Jill
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2422.20 | Your welcome | YOSMTE::CORDESBRO_JO | | Mon May 08 1989 13:41 | 4 |
| The other show will be May 20-21st at the Hall of Flowers in Golden
Gate Park, San Francisco. Show hours for spectators, 9-5.
Jo
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