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Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

2273.0. "I can't believe someone would do this..." by FRAGLE::PELUSO () Tue Mar 07 1989 08:57

	I am very upset to have to write this, but, feel this is
	a good place to vent my feelings and agression (I am pretty
	PI**ed! too).  I would have entered it sooner, but I was 
	in class last week.

STORY:

	I had just driven home, changed and was going back the way I came 
	(about 10 minutes total time) and what did I see, but a cat lying
	in the middle of the road.  She had obviously just been hit in 
	the "rush hour" ( this is a pretty rural area, however there are
	some big buck housing developments, which seem contain a large
	population of people who could give sh*t about anything, except
	racing up and down these streets in their fancy cars....sorry
	this is another sore spot) traffic.  I am outraged that someone 
	would hit such a beautiful animal and just leave it in the road 
	to die and get smuched.  

	I stopped, and checked her out to see if she was still alive.  
	She wasn't, so I moved her to the side of the road to aviod
	someone running her over.  What really angers me is the fact that 
	some A-hole killed this cat and I looked like the guilty one to 
	all the passerbys...It's a small town and I can just imagine what 
  	some people are saying...

	I then tried knocking on a few doors, espicially ones where
	cat foot prints had been left in the snow, and no one was home
	except for the last door I knocked on, and they were so cruel 
	and heartless (yeah she hangs around but wha' do ya wan' me todo 
	about it....I don't care...).

	So I left her on the wall of the home where the most cat prints 
	were, and hoped the owner, if any (she looked fat and healthy
	so she must have owned someone) would find her, but, she is still 
	there.  

	I would be absolutly devestated if this ever happened to one of my 
	pets.  I would at least hope the person would try to contact me, 
	Nippa's collar has my # on it.

	Sorry to have rambled, but this has really upset me and I felt 
	that this file was the place to vent my frustration and anguish.

	Michele & Nippa

	BTW, if anyone or knows anyone who is missing a grey and black
	tabby type cat (about 10 lbs or so) in the upper Ruggles St
	Wayside Rd area.  you/they can contact me by mail and I will
	give any information I can.
 
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2273.1she had no homeFRAGLE::PELUSOTue Mar 07 1989 09:0618
    UPDATE:
    
    Well I finally saw some life @ the house I suspected she lived,
    and talked w/ the guyes who lived there.  It seems she showed up
    about 10 days ago and they were feeding her outside, but because
    some of the guyes have allergies, they would not let her in the
    house.  They suspect someone droped her off because it is a real
    wooded area.  
    
    Well I still feel sad that this happened, but at least I can sort
    of put the thought that someone's loved one was missing and that
    sort of thing, she was just another unwanted pet.
    
    I told them if any other strays come around to let me know (probably
    a _big_ mistake, but atleast I could try to find them a home instead
    of letting this happen again....
    
    
2273.2How can people be so mean?SALEM::DEFRANCO_JTue Mar 07 1989 11:2624
    I know just how you feel!� When I was in high school, I saw a similar
    incident with a little puppy.  Actually, there was quite a bit of
    traffic around the high school and one day I saw this little lab
    type puppy get hit by a car.  The man actually stuck his head out
    the window and laughed at what he had just done!!!  I went over
    and got the poor pup out of the road, it was still alive but bleeding
    from the mouth and ears.  The poor thing was so afraid!  One of
    the teachers called the humane society and I stayed outside with
    the pup to make sure he didn't run away.  
    
    I don't know what happened to the pup once they took him away but
    it was a that point that I realized how little compasion most people
    had towards animals.  I was the only one who insisted on staying
    and helping and it was only because I was making a big fuss that
    the teacher called the humane society.  Everyone else was willing
    to let this poor creature go off on his own, hurt and bleeding!
    
    To this day, I just can't understand why some people just don't
    care!  Where are their hearts, their emotions?  Oh well, enough
    gloom and doom, I'm just glad that I have found a forum where there
    are so many people who DO care!  
    
    Jeanne, Cali, Sam and Sweetie
    
2273.3Hope for ReincarnationDELNI::GRACElife is unpredictable; eat dessert firstTue Mar 07 1989 13:097
    I don't understand it either, but consider the sad fact that alot
    of these people would also pass by a human body too, 'cause they wouldn't
    want to be 'INVOLVED'! 
    
    If there is reincarnation, I hope any person that hits an animal and
    then laughs about it would come back as that animal. Justice would
    be served.
2273.4CIRCUS::KOLLINGKaren, Sweetie, & Holly; in Calif.Tue Mar 07 1989 18:302
    They should come back as cockroaches.
    
2273.5I'd rather care and be hurt!CRUISE::NDCWed Mar 08 1989 08:0521
    Michelle -
      I know exactly how you feel.  More than once I have stopped and
    moved the body of a dead or barely dead cat off the road so that
    he wouldn't be hit again.  It wouldn't have made any difference
    to the cat as it was dead by this time, but somehow it seemed dis-
    respectful to leave the poor thing in the road to be further dis-
    figured.  Twice I've done this when the cat was still moving - not
    alive, but still moving - meaning some A#$Hole just hit it and took
    off.  
      I believe that everything you do comes back to you.  it keeps
    me sane.
      and if you're all wondering at how many uncaring people there
    are in the world - take a good look around you.  Most of the world's
    problems stem for that selfish, cruel and uncaring attitude!
      I believe this is exacerbated by shows like COPS and CURRENT AFFAIR
    and all that sensational crap!  It further desensitizes people.
      Keep up the good work - I really think that this world's survival
    depends on caring and the good works that come from it.  
      I'm glad we have each other.
       Nancy DC
    
2273.6GIAMEM::FINANCEWed Mar 08 1989 08:3925
    A long time ago I passed a cat that was in the road, I drove on
    a little to turn around, came back and went to the cat.  The cat
    was alive and not to badly hurt (enough so that he would not have
    made it of the street in time).  I asked a woman to call the Humane
    Society or the Dog Officer...both of them said that they could not
    come becuase the animal hit was not a Dog!  I sat on this womans
    front lawn for an hour, with my coat wrapped around the cat and
    freezing my but off.  All of a sudden the Dog Officer drove up and
    took the cat  from me and brought it to the vet.   She told me that
    a lot of people had called about the scene that they had saw and
    wished that someone would help me.
    
    I later found out that the cat was fine and had suffered a broken
    leg.  He was hobbling around in no time.
    
    I would not hesitate to do this again.
    
    I cringe everytime I see an animal (any kind) that has been hit
    and left to die....I don't think these people would appreciate it
    if we did the same to them.....but what goes around comes arround
    right?
    
    Thanks for the file...it's the best!
    
    Linda
2273.7wish I had seen you do it.........TPVAX1::ROBBINSWed Mar 08 1989 10:2430
    
    
           well......  we are in the feline file but this morning I
    had the sad experience of having to be the one to see this beautiful
    shepherd (very large) laying in a gully on the side of the road.
    By the look of his facial expression he did not die a quick death.
    So I called him in and the animal control officer had already been
    looking for him for half an hour.  I guess I have good eyes lucky
    me.  At least someone else had the decency to call.  Their were
    kids right across the street (I don't think they could see him)
    waiting for a bus having a good time.  The contrast between the
    two sides of the street were just too much for me.
    
         So I've been wishing all day that whomever hit that dog -and
    I find it hard to believe you can hit a very large shepherd that
    hard and not KNOW it:
    
         1. Has severe damage to their car that they'll have to shell
    out big bucks on.
    
         2. Their conscience eats away at them so much they start to
    lose it.
    
         3. And they come back reincarnated as a dog ending up the same
    way.
    
      
                        People sometimes really bite the big one.
    
                                                                  kim
2273.8BLKWDO::PARKSWed Mar 08 1989 10:5119
I had a terrible experience in this area also.  
I was driving home with my two little sisters(12 and 15) in the car.
I saw two large puppies playing in the road up ahead and was very glad
to see the car in front of me slow down.  But instead of stopping when
he got to the puppies he proceeded at a relatively slow speed and ran
over one of the puppies with his rear tire.  My sisters and I saw everything
including the look on the poor puppy's face as his back was broken.  
It seemed to be in slow motion.

What makes me so mad is that the guy had kids in the car too and didn't even 
stop to see if the puppy was OK.  I stopped to drag the puppy out of the road 
so that the other puppy wouldn't be hurt hanging around his brother.  
It was sad to see this little puppy, that was having so much fun a minute
ago, dead.  It was worse to see the other puppy try to wake him up to play
some more,  and I hated to think that people driving by thought I did it!
The three of us cried all the way home and we cringe just a little more
than before when we see a dead animal on/by the road.

2273.9It's hard but it just takes a momentRETORT::BREDAWed Mar 08 1989 13:3021
    I don't understand how people can hit an animal and drive off. 
    If people gave a seconds thought to how terrible it would be to
    be hit by a car - they may be understand how thoughtless they are
    when they drive off.  It is sad how limited people can be.
    
    However, here are times when it is impossible to stop due to traffic
    conditions-but there are plenty of back roads too!
    
    I once saw a "hit and run" with a cat.  My husband and I stopped
    to move the cat off the road.  We also stopped by several of the
    homes in the area to find out if the cat belonged to one of the
    families - but to no avial.  I was suprised too that the town would
    only send someone to pick up the poor animal if it was dog.  I don't
    get the logic in that.
    
    It is worth the sadness it causes when you stop and take care of
    an injured or dead cat or dog, because you give them the dignity
    and respect they deserve.
    
    /Kathy (mom to Mr. Kitten, Cleo and Lillian)
                                          
2273.10It's hard to tell of it nowYOSMTE::CORDESBRO_JOWed Mar 08 1989 14:2834
    Last summer I was taking my niece out to dinner when we found a
    cat lying in the road.  I stopped my car, got out, found the cat
    to be still alive.  I told Kari to pull the car off the road and
    point the headlights onto the cat so that I could see.  I took a
    blanket out of the trunk and started walking back to the cat.
    
    At that moment, a truck came towards us from the opposite direction.
    There is no way he could not have seen the cat, or me, or the blanket,
    or the fact that I was trying to save the cat.  He swerved from
    the opposite side of the road, ran over the cat, almost hit me and
    then took off down the street.  As soon as I realized that he was
    *trying* to hit the cat, I ran start towards him waving my arms
    and screaming.  I chased the truck for a few yards but couldn't
    get close enough to see the license plate.
    
    My niece was in the car in hysterics.  I tried to comfort her first,
    then I picked up the now dead cat, wrapped her in a blanket and
    got back in the car.  The cat was wearing no collar so I didn't
    know what to do.  She was a beautiful longhaired calico and I could
    tell that she must have been someone's pet because her white paws
    were sparkling white, and her coat was clean and matt free.
    
    Kari waited in the car, still crying, with the cat, while I knocked
    on doors.  I couldn't find the owner.  I ended up taking the cat
    to the humane society.  It broke my heart to just put her in the
    bins with the other animals that had been hit.  But I didn't know
    what else to do.  
    
    That was the absolute worst night of my whole life.  I am sure that
    Kari (who is 17 and lived with us at the time) will never forget
    it either.  She was very depressed for several days afterward, and
    would just break out in tears every time she thought about it.
    
    Jo
2273.11I feel like a criminalNICLUS::MTAGWed Mar 08 1989 15:4325
    I'm sitting here with tears coming to my eyes.
    
    I hit a cat once, and kill me if you want, did not stop.  The people in
    my car convinced me to go on.  It was a young cat that looked like one
    of my own.  It was an unavoidable accident and to this day I get upset
    everytime I think about it.  How could I have been so cruel not to stop
    and apologize to the owner?  I wouldn't want it done to me.
    
    My neighbor's cat was hit by a car in our condo development a few years
    ago.  My husband (then boyfriend) and I found Bonnie in the road.  She
    couldn't have been dead for more than 5 minutes.  She was still very
    warm, limp, and had not yet started to bleed.  I stopped the car, ran
    to her, and cuddled her crying my heart out.  I rang my neighbor's door
    but she didn't answer.  I held Bonnie till I was done crying, left a
    note on the neighbor's door, and wrapped her in a blanket and put her
    in a box in my garage.  The neighbor called me at 4:00am when she woke
    up, went to call for Bonnie, and saw my note.  She was so happy it was
    me who found her and cared for her.  Bonnie was definitely special cat
    and had even won the Morris Award once.
    
    I just wish (still) I had done this for that one cat oh so long ago...
    
    Mary
    
                                            
2273.12sometimes the system worksCIVIC::JOHNSTONOK, _why_ is it illegal?Wed Mar 08 1989 16:1069
    If I may be forgiven another dog story...
    
    Several years back, I was driving home from the airport with my
    sister when the car in front of me swerved to hit one of my neighbor's
    dobermans.  [the neighbor and I were nodding acquaintances only.
    we lived a ways out in the country about a mile apart].
    
    She bounced off of the slime-wad's fender into my windshield causing
    me to nearly lose control and my sister's collarbone was cracked
    from being thrown forward against the shoulder-harness with excessive
    force.
    
    Upon seeing the commotion behind him, he burned rubber out of there.
    Wendy had gotten a partial tag-number which I told her to write
    down immediately along with whatever she could remember about the
    car.  I went to check out the dog.  She was alive and in some pain
    and not at all nice -- offering to rip off whatever portions of
    my anatomy I might place in range -- understandable, but intimidating.
    
    Wendy put my flashers on and got out to sit just out of range while
    I went to tell my neighbor.  The neighbor immediately jumped to
    the conclusion that I had hit his dog, but I pointed out that unless
    the dog was a real jumper, more than my windshield would have been
    damaged had I been the culprit.  He got the point.
    
    Anyway, the dog lived although she lost part of her foot and had
    damaged reproductive parts that would no longer produce gorgeous
    prize-winning puppies [my neighbor was a breeder; the dog was a
    bitch in heat who'd let herself out having gotten tired of waiting
    for Mr.Right...dobermans are crafty and big enough to make it pay
    off].
    
    With the partial tag-number and description of the car, we found
    the slime [he had vanity plates which made it easier].  He also
    had a doberman-sized ding in his fender which eliminated all doubt.
    The law enforcement persons went after him with a vengence!!
    
    Because he had purposely aimed at the dog, he was prosecuted for
    Cruelty to Animals, Felony.
    
    Because the dog had hit my car causing substantial damage to the car
    and injury to my sister and he hadn't stopped, he was prosecuted for
    Attempted Vehicular [sp?] Homicide, Felony. 
    
    Because the dog was part of my neighbors breeding stock with a stunning
    record for quality offspring, the Court entertained a motion to
    sue on lost revenue grounds.
    
    In addition to some time in jail, fines, my car repairs, and my
    sister's medical expense, he was hit with _all_ court costs and
    a civil judgement of $25K payable to my neighbor.
    
    I, personally, do not believe that the dog would have produced $25K
    worth of puppies in her _life_, let alone that late in her career.
    However, I have no quibble with the judgement. Although I received
    no recompense from the court [nor did I seek it], my neighbor did
    see his way clear to pay off the accumulated vet charges for my
    transient menagerie -- his reasoning being that had I not been there
    to have been hit by his injured dog, he would have had only a dead
    dog.
    
    I just wish the guy had spent more time in jail.  While he was there
    he was assigned to clean up after the guard-dogs. Oh, how poetic!!!
    
      Ann
    
    
   
    
2273.13CRUISE::NDCThu Mar 09 1989 08:135
    IT'S ABOUT TIME THE S$%^&^%DS had to pay for what they do.
    I get absolutely speechless with anger when I read what some
    of these things (they don't deserve to be called people) do to
    animals and then get off with some little fine!  $500, BIG DEAL!
      
2273.14TPVAX1::ROBBINSThu Mar 09 1989 08:3522
    re. 12
    
          Ann,
               That story made my day :^).  Thank you for sharing that.
    
    re. 11
    
         Mary,
    
               No Mary please don't feel that bad about it.  If you
    would have been in the car by yourself chances are you would have
    stopped.  We all learn by our mistakes :^).  I've done some pretty
    rotten things to my fellow creatures when I was younger and easily
    influenced but those memories only serve to make me push even harder
    to do alot more good to try to make up for my folly earlier in life.
    Smile you obviously are a very nice person and human just like the
    rest of us :^).
    
                             Have a nice day and take the load of your
                             shoulders.....
    
                                                        kim
2273.15FRAGLE::PELUSOThu Mar 09 1989 08:5817
    RE: .11
    
    I hope you did not feel my note was directed towards you, because
    I don't blame you.  It's possible that this kitty was in a similar
    situation, and the driver or a passenger wanted to stop, but for
    what ever reasons didn't, or maybe they didn't know they hit her...
    
    I just could not stomach the bimbo's attitude and they looks I got
    from people as I was trying to move the cat...It was really upsetting.
                                                    
    Please don't feel bad....
    
    RE:.12
    
    your story MADE my day.  I hope we see more of that happening to
    people who have no regard to animal life (I sometimes wonder how
    these people treat other people?), they really deserve it.
2273.16ASABET::HUDSONThu Mar 09 1989 13:537
    RE: .11 I also agree with the others please don't continue to torchier
    yourself, I'm sure you have made up for it.
    Re: .12 that also made my day.
    Thats just like the guy who tried to dump his dog off on the highway
    and the cops were right there to catch him.
    
    Cindy
2273.17"There are no mistakes, only lessons"CRUISE::NDCFri Mar 10 1989 08:1326
    If making mistakes spurs you on to do more good then something
    valuable has come from it.  (I'm looking for that silver lining
    again)  
      As long as we all learn from our mistakes and try to turn
    them to something positive, then we shouldn't keep beating
    ourselves with them.  The real crime is in not learning, for
    then we are doomed to repeat those mistakes.
    
    To quote the rules for being human:
    
    Rule 3. "There are no mistakes, only lessons.  Growth is a process
    of trial and error, experimentation.  The 'failed' experiments are
    as much a part of the process as the experiment that ultimately
    "works".
    
    4. A lesson is repeated until it is learned.  A lessn will be presented
    to you in various forms until you have learned it.  When you have
    learned it, you can then go on to the next lesson.
    
    5. Learning lessons does not end.  There is no part of life that
    does not contain its lessons.  If you are alive, there are lessons
    to be learned."
    
    If anyone wants all the rules - I rather like them - send me mail
       Nancy DC
    
2273.18FYIFRAGLE::PELUSOTue Mar 21 1989 13:1323
    This was posted in CANINE, it is a sad story with a 'happy (sic)'
    ending.....like she said what goes around....comes around.....
    
    
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    The other thing you have to worry about is the IDIOTS out there that
    get a big charge out of purposely trying to hit an animal with their
    car.   I remember in high school a real MORON who used to brag about
    how many dogs he has hit with his truck.   He considered it a sport!!
    Approx. 5 years after we graduated he was killed in an automobile
    accident.  Ironically it was a hit and run!
    
    What goes around comes around.....  The universe doesn't "forget"...