[Search for users] [Overall Top Noters] [List of all Conferences] [Download this site]

Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

2234.0. "Recurrent Diarrhoea - help please" by INBLUE::HALDANE (Words is my Business) Thu Feb 16 1989 08:16

	Hello!

	First, let me introduce myself.  My name is Delia Haldane, I'm
	English, and I live and work in Valbonne, France.

	Milady is a long-haired black mongrel cat, born last May 24th, i.e.
	nearly nine months old.  She's spayed and has had most of the
	usual vaccinations but hasn't yet been tested for FeLV.  She was
	wormed at the time of the vaccinations, about three months ago.

	She's an affectionate, healthy cat, but she seems to have frequent
	bouts of diarrhoea.  She's been this way for the past six days or
	so, and I can't seem to stop it.

        Unfortunately, this bout has come at a time when I have two feline
        visitors, Milady's twin sister and a younger male cat, whose people
        are away until the weekend.  This makes it almost impossible for me
        to control the amount Milady eats, though I've tried to ensure that
        she does not get any milk.  I haven't changed her diet suddenly,
        and I never give her liver when she's got a tummy upset, or even
        for a week or so afterwards (even though she loves it). 

	I don't want to take her to the vet if I can avoid it as it's
	traumatic for both of us (and costly for me!), but she has to go
	soon for the FeLV test and then (please!) for the vaccinations.

	Other than this tummy trouble she seems perfectly happy and
	healthy; she fights with the other two (no claws or teeth as a
	rule) and her appetite is more than healthy.  Could it be that she
	eats too much?  Could she be eating something she finds outside
	that's upsetting her?

	If you've had this problem and conquered it, or have any advice,
	I'd love to hear from you.  Also, if there are existing notes that
	deal with this, please let me know.  Doing a search through such a
	big file at this distance is not practical.

	Thanks,

	Delia
T.RTitleUserPersonal
Name
DateLines
2234.1could be a parasite...FRAGLE::PELUSOThu Feb 16 1989 08:4411
    When I first adopted Nippa, she had the 'runs' very regularly. 
    It didn't help that mom abandoned her and she was bottled raised
    - so her diet was much to be desired....  mostly baby food and milk,
    she would not touch cat food.  I took her to the ver for shots,
    and she had a serious parasite/worm problem common for kittens...
    maybe Milady needs to be wormed again.  Also I just read herre that
    Tender Vittles is supposed to help the problem.  Does she eat any
    dry food?  I'd check with the vet, maybe you can move up your shot
    date, and combine it w/ the checkup.
    
    Michele & Nippa
2234.2Nerves? Allergy?SUCCES::PEAKEThu Feb 16 1989 10:3032
    I have also been told by my Vet that Tender Vittles
    is good to feed them as it helps bind them... My
    cat had a bout with this on a recurrent basis. I had
    just gotten a kitten then and she was very upset
    about it. Aside from picking up a sore throat from
    him, I thought that maybe she'd picked up an intestinal
    bug as well. My Vet put her on antibiotics but this
    only cured the sore throat. After 3 weeks of this
    going on, my Vet thought it was probably stress because
    of the new kitten. He gave her an injection of something
    (I don't know what) and he said it was to quiet down
    her stomach -- like a mild mild sedative. And that
    cured her!
    
    Now I have the problem of her being a tuna lover and
    this happens to be too rich for her --- so I only give
    a teaspoon on top of her normal dinner. The Vet says this
    may be causing a mild intestinal upset, because tuna
    is very rich. So, I have to wean her off tuna for good.
    
    Are you feeding your cat catfood tuna? Also, I was told
    that milk gives some cats the runs and to avoid this,
    they sell a product known as LACTAID. I don't know what
    it is exactly, but it's like lactic acid or something,
    and makes the milk digestible. This could just be an
    allergy to milk.
    
    Some ideas. Hope this helps...good luck!
    
    Lynn, Pounce and Nutmeg
    
    
2234.3...but this is FRANCE!INBLUE::HALDANEWords is my BusinessThu Feb 16 1989 11:0330
	Thanks for the replies so far.

	I've never seen anything called "Tender Vittles" in England, and if
	it's sold here in France it would definitely be under another name.
	What does it contain?  Mostly she eats Whiskas, plus a little dry
	food. 

	I don't think that it's a reaction to milk, because this is what I
	first suspected and didn't give her any while she was affected.
	I hadn't thought of stress, I must admit, but she doesn't seem the
	type to suffer from this, being the very much out-all-day and
	up-every-tree sort of cat.

        One possibility (that I can't easily do anything about) is that
        SOMEBODY ELSE is feeding her with milk or liver or very oily food,
        or something else that disagrees with her.  I could try to confine
        her to the house for a while (I'd have to bolt everything down,
        probably including her!) and see what happens, but, short of
	putting a sign "PLEASE DO NOT FEED ME" round her neck, I can't see
	how I can stop well-meaning neighbours.  I'm sure she asks them oh
	so prettily for a tasty morsel...

	In the meantime, while the visiting cats are allowed out (and,
	believe it or not, return to my house and not their own in the
	evenings!) I'll have to try to tempt her with a raw egg again.

	Any other ideas?

	Delia
2234.4some suggestionsYOSMTE::CORDESBRO_JOThu Feb 16 1989 11:2421
    Do not give her raw egg whites.  They have an enzyme in them that
    cats can't digest.  Could this be causing her problem?
    
    As a temporary solution, try giving her a tiny bit of Kaopectate.
    Here in the states, it is diarrhea medication for people.  For a
    10 lb cat, about 1/2 teaspoon would be plenty.
    
    When we had outdoor cats, we tied a ribbon with a small note on
    Monroe's collar to let our neighbors know that he had special dietary
    needs and to please not feed him.  It worked.
    
    Good Luck,
    
    Jo
    
    PS - would it be possible to keep her inside for a day or two to
    see if the problem clears up?  That way you may be able to figure
    out if something she is eating outside is the source of the problem.
    Also, even if she doesn't seem to show it, having other cats around
    could be stressful for her.
    
2234.5VAXWRK::SKALTSISDebThu Feb 16 1989 12:114
    another good binder is boiled rice. You might have to mix it with a
    little fried, scrambled hamberg in order to get kitty to eat it.
    
    Deb
2234.6CRUISE::NDCMon Feb 20 1989 07:5617
    re: .2 LACTAID  I'm not exactly sure of what's in it either,
    but the problem with milk - and some humans have it too - is
    that it contains Lactose which requires the enzyme Lactase  to
    be digested.  People and cats who have an intolerance to milk
    do so because they don't produce the enzyme on their own.
      I suspect that LACTAID is a lactase suppliment.  Check the
    label.
    
      If the cat is an indoor/outdoor cat it his highly likely that
    she has worms again.  If you talk to your vet, perhaps you can
    find a less expensive way to treat her. For example, a stool
    check would be much less expensive than an office visit and
    would diagnose worms.  
      Make sure she gets PLENTY of water.  There is always the
    danger of dehydration with diahreah.
      GOOD LUCK
    
2234.7CRUISE::NDCMon Feb 20 1989 07:564
    re: .5 - I recommend that you boil the hamburger, not fry it.
    Fried foods are hard to digest.  Boilled chicken is another good
    one - not turkey, tho.  
      Nancy