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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

2160.0. "...And Chopper Makes Four" by RATTLE::CROCKER (Sue Crocker) Thu Jan 19 1989 14:03

    I am hoping you can help me with this upcoming problem.  I am getting
    married in March and will be facing the problem of integrating my
    three cats with my fiance's cat.
    
    My three are strictly indoor cats and two are declawed.  They're
    a rather rambunctious lot and range in age from 4 to 7.  My fiance's
    cat is a very mellow cat, 5 years old, and an indoor/outdoor cat.
    
    Some of my questions are: 
    
    1.  What's the best way to integrate adult cats?  (I've always had
        the task of integrating kittens with cats and never had a serious
        problem.  Somehow I don't think I'll be so lucky this time!) 
    
    2.  My cat's have all tested negatively to the feline leukemia virus,
        but have never been inoculated.  My fiance's cat gets the yearly
        shot.  Should I plan to have them inoculated before my guys
        make the move?
    
    3.  Is there a risk that the outdoor cat will feel outnumbered and
        run away?  Will the declawed cats be able to adequately defend
        themselves?  (To date there's never been a problem in my
        household.)
    
    These are some of my immediate concerns, although I've also started
    to fret a bit about future flea problems as well as shared litter
    box problems.
    
    I welcome any suggestions on how to handle any of these issues, as
    well as any others that I may not have anticipated.
    
    Susan
        Wil
    
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2160.1maybe it won't happen...DRFIX::IVESThu Jan 19 1989 16:2422
    Sometimes I think it is easier introducing adult cats. When we
    bought Ming home she was half the size and weigh of Mocha and
    has claws. Mocha on the other hand outweighed her and has no claws.
    In the three months they have been together they have worked things
    out amoung themselves. Of course every once in awhile they have a go
    at it, but it doesn't last too long.
    
    I have seen Ming go after Mocha and he turns around quickly and
    sits up in that Ragdoll pose and uses his front feet to box Ming
    in the face and she manages to get a swipe in before she retreats.
    He has yet to use his weigh by sitting or laying on her. I think if
    he did that she would feel like "Henney Penny" and her world fell in.
    
    Ming has tested neg to feline leuk, and Mocha has had the shots. He
    was an outdoor/indoor cat but he "abused his privilage" so now he is
    strickly indoors. It wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be.
    
    I think sometimes we anticipate things and then they never happen.
    
    They will work it out in time so enjoy your new life and don't worry.
    
    Barbara
2160.2my ?2? cents...looks more like 25CRUISE::NDCFri Jan 20 1989 08:2162
    In response to your questions:

        1.  I have found that the difficulty in integrating cats seems to
    be effected by a number of factors, among them are age of the cats,
    individual personalities, old living situation (i.e. is this already
    a multicat household or has the cat been alone (you have both))
    and how long has the cat been a lone cat - the longer, the more
    difficult is the transition, generally speaking.
      Things you can do to help:  Since cats are very smell oriented,
    putting a drop of perfume on all the cats makes them smell similar
    and helps the to believe that the new cat is a member of the 
    group.  You can also put the new cat in a room by itself for a while
    to let the cats smell each other without having contact for a bit.
    That helps them get used to the new cat.
      Also, don't pat the new cat(s) in front of the old one(s) for
    a bit.  So each of you would pay attention to your respective cats.
    That helps reduce jealousy.
      FInally, and you probably know this already - it sounds like a
    leaky tire factory for a bit.  Lots of noise and activity and 
    "pissed pussies" (as my husband would say), but unless you actually
    see blood don't interfear.  Let them work it out for themselves.
    I have been know the speak harshly to the offender, but in general
    I don't try to push them at each other, or interfear in the heirarchy
    battles.  Isis "bapped" Dundee on the head for three days before
    she remembered that kittens are great playmates.
    
    2. Get your cats vaccinated for FLV.  My vet told me that even tho
    my indoor cats had all been vaccinated they still ran a risk if
    exposed to outdoor cats.  If your fiance's cat is going to be an
    outdoor cat, even if vaccinated, you are putting your cats at 
    risk.  To me, its not worth it.  My vet gave us a break on the
    FLV shots for three cats.  Normally it runs $96/cat for the first
    series including the test.  He did all three for $219 and its done
    over a period of a few months so you don't have to pay it all at
    once.
      And, Yes, get it all done before you bring them into contact with
    the other cat.  Having the outdoor cat "visit" before actually moving
    in might ease the transition later, but I wouldn't do it until your
    cats are vacinated.
    
    3. I suggest that your fiance trim the outdoor cats claws.  It will
    not seriously inhibit its ability to climb or defend itself, but
    it will make the claws slightly less damaging to the other cats.
    I have no experience with declawed cats, nor with outdoor cats so
    I can't comment much further on that.
    
    I'm a big proponant of indoor cats (we do let ours out on the second
    story deck or on their runs in the back yard)  so I am, of course,
    going to recommend that you try to train the other cat to live
    indoors.  You might want to keep the other cat indoors at least
    until they all make the adjustment.  That can happen as quickly
    as three days (Isis & Dundee) or take much longer, or never happen.
    Also, when we went to four cats, we had to have two litter boxes.
    I would definitely recommend giving the new cat his/her own box
    and you might want to provide a second one just for your guys.
    Hopefully, you won't have trouble with kitties going where they're
    not supposed to like we did with Dundee.
    
      Good luck and hope this helps. 
        Nancy DC
    
     
2160.3YOSMTE::CORDESBRO_JOFri Jan 20 1989 19:4015
    I second what Nancy said but I also would keep the outdoor cat in
    for awhile since cats need to become familiar with new surroundings.
    Many a moved cat has found his way back to the old residence after
    being moved (one of mine did it consistently and she wasn't an outdoor
    cat at the time!).  I would recommend at least a couple weeks indoors
    and then outdoors only with supervision at first, to be sure that
    he is completely familiar with the new surroundings.
    
    Get the Felv shots for your indoor cats, and get them boosted on
    their vaccines (if it has been more than 6 months) since the outdoor
    cat, having been exposed to lots of things, probably has higher
    immunity than your indoor cats, and could bring home upper respitory
    type illnesses to them.
    
    Jo