Conference misery::feline_v1

    Wait..........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    I live in a condo in Nashua, they are saying no more dogs, BUT
    the State of N.H. condo law says an association can not make
    you get rid of your present pets !!!!!!!! and if it is an INDOOR
    animal and NEVER let outside they can not dictate to your concerning
    that animal. If you are a renter this applies to you also as the
    landlord knew you had a pet and cannot make you get rid of this one,
    but can stipulte when this one is gone no more. 
    
    Please don't let your association dictate to you things they can
    not LAWFULLY do. They have a way of running away with their authority.
    
    Barbara

    I can't believe it!  I always thought the point of a condo was that
    you owned the place.  I can't believe that they can now tell you
    you can't have cats.  :-(  I'm glad I'm in a house.
    
    Hope you can keep him,
    Karen, Tristan and tenzing.

    
    
    	re: .0
    
    	I too live in a condo in Nashua which luckily allows pets.
    
    	Why does the condo association say no more pets???  Just
    	how exactly is the fact that you have a pet affecting
    	or bothering them??  Even if you are renting the condo from
    	an owner, you shouldn't have to get rid of the cat!
    
    	Please make sure you check out the legalities of what they
    	are trying to do to you before you give up your cat.
    
    	In my condo association, we asked that the owner of one of
    	the condos tell her tenants to get rid of the dog.  The dog
    	was a nuisance because they left if tied up outside all day
    	when they weren't home and it barked non-stop.  We gave them
    	an ultimatum.  Either keep the dog quiet (by keeping it
    	inside) or get rid of the dog.  They got rid of the dog.
    
    	I can see where outdoor cats might be considered a nuisance
    	if they are pooping all over the yard, but there is no way
    	that your indoor cat can bother anyone!!  The condo association
    	should have stipulated "No outdoor cats".
             
    	Please keep us posted if you decide to fight this.
    
    	Karen

    You want to hear stupid condo rules:  get this!
    
    Where I live (Grafton, MA), we are allowed only one pet per unit
    which must be no more than 22" high and I forget how many inches
    long.  Not only that, they require a $500 surety bond posted for
    each pet.
    
    They are still building in our development, so the only people in
    the association are the builders and developers who make and (try
    to) enforce all the rules.  When I placed an anonymous call to the
    builder's office and asked where they got off enforcing such a stupid
    rule (especially for people who have indoor only pets), they had
    no valid reasons to offer me (for indoor only pets) except for the
    fact that we share common walls with other people.  Now, really,
    what on earth is a cat going to do, tear down a wall in an effort
    to go next door?  Luckily, the maintenance crew likes Dana, me,
    and our cats, and always leaves our unit with an "I didn't see
    anything" type of an attitude.  But I am especially nervous now,
    since the management company has recently changed hands and I'm adding
    two more cats to the household next month.  It really disgusts me
    that we own our unit and still have to live by their rules, on the
    *inside* as well as the outside.
    

    We are very fortunate that our development is 
    a.) very small (only forty units);
    b.) heavily pet concentrated (over half have pets,
        including both people we share those "common walls"
        with); and,
    c.) I'm on the condo board, which helps.
    
    I find the "common wall" business rather funny.  If this
    wall is so common, how come "their" hazard insurance only
    covers them to the studs, and "my" home insurance has to 
    cover the insulation, walboard, taping, painting, etc.
    Unless your cat regularly plays with a bulldozer, it seems
    rather odd (although your cat may *need* a bulldozer to get
    through their regulations ;-)  ).
    
    Mary-Michael

    I suspect that the "common walls" argument relates to possible noise,
    much more pertinant to a barking dog than to a cat.  Of course that
    argument doesn't make much sense either, if they do it by size.
    My two dogs are 27" and 30" at the shoulder, and neither one of
    them barks more than once a month or so, but I've known a lot of
    small dogs that yap all day.  Sigh.  I think they just don't know
    what they're talking about, and I'm still glad I have a house.
    
    Karen, Tristan and Tenzing.

    RE: .1 I don't know much about condo's but I agree they can't make
    you get rid of something you already have just because they changed
    the rules.  With this new rule it should only be as of now and that
    should include outdoor cats.  If you already have a cat indoor or
    out they can't make you get rid of it.  Whats next?  Are you going
    to have to get rid of your two legged children when they change
    the rules to adult communites.  Just like note .6 I'm glad I have
    my own house.  I did own a condo for two years but we could have
    animals.  I wonder if this changed.

    
    
    	Re: pet size
    
    	My parents condo in florida limits pet size to under 8 pounds.
    	While a wierd rule, the reason is probably because they are
    	in a high rise.  Personally, I think that a 160 pound person
    	will make more noise walking across the floor than a 16 pound
    	cat.   But thats the rules!  I'm tempted to talk to the
    	managmenet when I'm there visiting and ask why all the fuss!
    	
    	Karen

    I live w/ my parents in a new development, and some of the rules
    they have regarding pets is absolutely ridiculous!   I can't wait
    to move to the 'sticks' where no one can tell you what you can and
    can't have.

    
    Though many of the thought expressed here are quite valid, try to
    remember that the reason for strict regulations within certain condo
    complexes is due to overall prosperity.  I find no problem with
    house cats, but agree that certain rules must be set to limit pets
    (especially dogs).  Why should your property be devaluated because
    your neighbor wants a dog?  Common areas can become quite run down
    and loose pets could be quite a problem if the situation gets out
    of hand.  Also, what if your new neighbors move in with a couple
    of dogs that bark day and night or whose cat is left outside and
    howls outside your bedroom window?  Condo complexes have rules to
    protect every owner.  I believe most do not enforce the rule unless
    there is a particular problem or the situation gets out of hand.
    With the concentration of units in some complexes, you could be
    living in a zoo if regulations are not set forth.
    
    Rick
    

    Ahem...back to the topic at hand.
    
    Does anyone want to adopt this cat?
    
    Please respond to TSG::BOYER.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Michael the Surrogate Feline Noter

    This one never makes sense to me. Why would other condo assn. people
    not want you to have a cat? How could your cat possibly bother them?
    Some people are just sh*th**ds.
    
    
    KBS
    

    re .12  I agree 150%.  That is one big reason we didn't buy
    a condo.  I'll be D^&*%$ if I'll spend $160K for living space
    and then have someone else tell me what I can do in it!
      NHDC