T.R | Title | User | Personal Name | Date | Lines |
---|
1687.1 | What I would do... | CSSE::MORRELL | | Tue Aug 23 1988 12:01 | 16 |
| My suggestion is to have your brother there with you tonight, even
if he has to spend the night. This guy does sound really weird,
and I wouldn't want to take a chance of anything happening to you
or you cat.
The thing that I do at home when my husband isn't home, I have a
baseball bat behind the door but within reach if anything happens.
Another thing you could do, because your brother sounds like such
a great guy, have the cat spend about a week over there. This way
if they do want to search your apartment the cat isn't there and
you could sneak her back in.
Also, have them put the kitty litter in bags when you go grocery
shopping for now on.
|
1687.2 | | SSMP20::DALEY | | Tue Aug 23 1988 13:10 | 27 |
| I agree with .1- let your cat stay a week w/your brother if possible.
Also - let your brother come down tonight - sometimes those weird
guys pick on a woman living alone because the woman is an easy target
but then they back-off if they think there is a man involved. Also
while the cat is at your brother's place, let it be known that
you had to "give her away" (and when she does come back - keep the
litter concealed in brown bags).
Also, I read in the "Read Estate" notes file that it is illegal for
someone to enter your apt w/o your knowledge (altho I know that
frequently maintenance people do come right-on-in when no one is
home - supposedly to "fix" a "terrible" leak - or - something like
that). But because you have a cat in a non-large animals complex
you are limited in how far you can complain to management before
you find yourself facing an unfortunate ultimatum.
I think tho that having your brother intercede with this creep might
be the best bet. You're lucky he's around to help you.
It seems that this weirdo is trying to get something from you ($$$
or something else - who knows ) and he thinks that the cat is way
to do it. And he has probably done it before with other ladies
and has been successful. Now he's trying his scam on you.
It makes me so angry!!!
Good luck.
|
1687.3 | Report him too | POOL::MURPHY | Is it Friday yet? | Tue Aug 23 1988 13:12 | 9 |
| I think you should report them searching your apt. too. That is
illegal, isn't it. If you leave your cat with your brother or a
friend for awhile, the landlord won't find a cat if he does get
a report from Mr. Sleezey, and he may also fire Mr. Sleezey if he
found out about his invasion of your privacy.
Good luck.
Pat
|
1687.4 | Apartment hunting? | TPVAX2::ROBBINS | | Tue Aug 23 1988 13:15 | 33 |
|
Oh brother what a bad predicament.... I would definately have
your brother come over. From reading your enty I do not like the
sounds of this "man" and feel like his interest in you is way above
the norm. Act on your intuitions if you feel like he is a threat
make sure to convey it like you've done. Some people always underplay
but it's always better to take precautions.. Like I say "the just
in case" approach.
I understand you love your apartment very much but now you
have two things to consider. Your cat and you. Even if it has
been put off for the moment chances are sooner or later the landlord
is going to find out. If you have the other tenant that is upset
over you having your cat I think she may very well let it be known.
Then you'll be faced with that and it may be a time limit that puts
you into a real bind. Plus the fact of this man who will probably
continue to work there even if everything was all set with your
cat. If he gives you the "willies" and has admitted to snooping
around your apartment I don't think you'll feel that comfortable
there. I'd start checking to see what's available for apartments.
You may hit it just right and find something affordable where you
can keep your cat with no worry about being found out and get rid
of him. I know of a place that will be renting but I have no idea
where you are located and I understand why so if you'd like to know
if it's in your area let me know by mail. :^) I guess in my
long-winded reply is I'd move and start looking now just in case
I'd be moving in a hurry.
Take care and I'll be thinking of you.
kim
p.s. You've got a sweet brother. :^)
|
1687.5 | Move the cat to your brother's - then call the police! | EDUC8::TRACHMAN | E.T.'s ZhivagoCats....DTN: 264-8298 | Tue Aug 23 1988 13:29 | 14 |
| Dear Anoynomous:
How about having your brother adding those key locks with the chains
that you reach in and open with a key on the inside of the door
from the outside of the door. Not a good explanation - but they
work - your other option is calling the police - that person
has no right to make you feel nervous - he can be kept away.
I know how you feel - I had to hide my cats for years. It
really stinks to have to live that way - it's worse when you
think you have been "found out" - living in fear is really
nasty -
E.T.
|
1687.6 | | INDEBT::TAUBENFELD | Almighty SET | Tue Aug 23 1988 13:35 | 19 |
|
This is a bad situation, I can understand your concern. I agree
with all the previous responses but have an observation. That woman
had to give up her cat to stay, her place was more important than
her cat. If it comes to a head and they tell you that you have
to get rid of your cat, tell them (if it is true) that you will
be forced to move out. The landlord may want to work out a deal
instead of giving up the income your apartment gives him (temporarily).
Like an extra $25 a month, or 1/2 of the security deposit for pet
damage, or the promise that the place will be professionally cleaned
when you move out.
In my old place, in the 2 1/2 years I lived there, we had 6 maintenance
men. It's a high turnover job, you may luck out if your trouble
maker moves on...
Good luck!
|
1687.7 | ACT! | HILLST::MASON | Explaining is not understanding | Tue Aug 23 1988 13:43 | 11 |
| 1. If you are really scared, report him to management (and the
authorities if you wish), and worry about the consequences later.
2. There may be room for negotiation, since:
a.You have a cat, but the complex has a problem with the guy
in question, and
b.The cat has been no problem, so maybe they'll make an exception
for you.
Good luck...Gary
|
1687.8 | | CIRCUS::KOLLING | Karen, Sweetie, & Holly; in Calif. | Tue Aug 23 1988 14:40 | 22 |
| A number of things:
I really doubt that your neighbor, who has had to go thru the pain
of giving up her cat, would put another cat owner thru that pain
as well. I suspect the weirdo is lying about her.
I would look for another place to live, and have your brother keep
the cat until this is settled. Knowing he is safe is one worry
off your mind.
I would DEFINITELY get another lock on the door that you can lock
yourself when you are home. The management might insist that they
have all the keys to the locks, but they can't insist if you just
lock it when you are there. Actually a throw bolt, or whatever
they are called, doesn't need a key.
You may find the management receptive to your worries about the
weirdo; if you were attacked after warning them about him, they
would be in for a big lawsuit. If they fire him, be sure you change
your locks as he might keep a key.
|
1687.9 | | VAXWRK::SKALTSIS | Deb | Tue Aug 23 1988 16:22 | 23 |
| This reply is from the author of the base note who wishes to remain
anoynomous.
Deb
===========================================================================
RE: .7
The reason why they don't let you keep a cat is so when people move
in that are allergic to cats they will not have to remove and replace
it. That's what that guy told me last night.
I called the office this morning and asked to speak to maint guy
that did in fact fix my window (it was not the same guy, which really
makes me think that this whole thing is a set up) but he is on
vacation. I did speak to the manager about and she didn't say a
word about my cat. I don't think a word was said about the cat
but I am sure he is going to try to take the credit for it.
If something was said then I am out. If nothing was said then I
have to live with the fact that this guy can come and go out of
my apt as he pleases.
|
1687.10 | from an expert at discouraging men.... | MYVAX::LUBY | love them furry terrorists | Tue Aug 23 1988 17:49 | 24 |
|
I assume that you won't be reading this till Wednesday. Hope
everything turned out alright. But if you are threatened, then
start looking for another place to live but also do something
about the threat (press charges, complain, get the guy fired).
The management has a valid reason for making you leave so you might
as well get the heck out now and not put up a fight. Because even
if management doesn't know yet, you don't want to live there under
threat from this maintainance guy. And if you complain, which you
should, your cat will get found out.
It seems to me that the only way out of the situation is if the
maintainance guy means no harm. He could just think you are cute
and just wants to talk. There is a guy in my cafeteria who always
pesters me but he isn't a threat, just a nuisance. If this guy
is just a pest, find a "boyfriend" real fast. That may be all it
takes to discourage him. You could say things along the order of
"well, it really doesn't matter if you tell management because
I may be moving in with my boyfriend anyhow". Have your brother
pose as the boyfriend! Well, you get the idea...
Karen
|
1687.11 | Do something! | EDUC8::TRACHMAN | E.T.'s ZhivagoCats....DTN: 264-8298 | Tue Aug 23 1988 17:53 | 4 |
| If he can get in to your apartment, CHANGE THE LOCKS. Give
management keys when you move out.
|
1687.12 | Please do something. | CSSE::MORRELL | | Tue Aug 23 1988 18:01 | 22 |
| I would definitely change the locks. Give the management the new
keys and tell them about the problem with the maintanence and ask
the management not to give the keys to maintanence because you are
afraid that this guy will do damage to your apartment, and tell
them if something has to be fixed ask them to do it at night or
on the weekends when your brother can be there, and you lock the
cat in another room.
Again think about having the cat stay with your brother and definitely
reporting this guy.
No woman needs to live with this kind of fear. The issue of the
cat is important, but so isn't the issue of what this man is doing
to you emotionally.
Please do something, I would hate to see you have to get rid of
the cat and then still have this guy harassing you afterwards.
Keep us updated, for we are worried about you.
Kathy, T.C. and Trigger.
|
1687.13 | AARRGGGHHH! | ODIUM::WONG | CLUSTA::TAMIR in disguise! | Wed Aug 24 1988 08:22 | 18 |
| OK, I gotta add my $.02...
I'd go to the office, tell them that, although you're sure this
gentleman (read: sleeze bucket) had no harmful intent, that he did
proposition you and that you would feel more secure if they changed
your locks (or allowed you to do so) and would ensure that he would
not have any access to your residence under any circumstances.
Just because you rent does not mean you have no rights!! You have
the right to feel safe and secure in your home (and it is YOUR HOME,
not their PROPERTY!), to be free from harrasement by their employees,
and have the ultimate right to your privacy, which means they CANNOT
enter YOUR HOME and search it without the Police!!
OOOOOOHHHH this burns me up!! Good luck!
Mary
|
1687.14 | from the author of the base note | VAXWRK::SKALTSIS | Deb | Wed Aug 24 1988 14:10 | 21 |
| I would love to go to the office and tell them that this guy is
bothering me and get him fired but he can turn around and turn me
in. If/when this happens I will not get rid of my cat. She goes
-- I go. I am just not prepared to make that step right now. I
would like to save more money to buy something than be forced into
that decision now.
RE: Changing the locks. Sure I can change the locks but the maint.
people have to have a copy. They have to be able to get in in case
of the peoples dishwasher, toilet or whatever overflows or some
emergency arises. I can not change it and say don't give this key
to Bill.
I have rigged my door with a device to let me know if anyone has
entered while I am at work. What am I supposed to do if someone
has entered?
He didn't show up at my door last night so I feel better. Now I
just have to wait and see if I get a letter in the mail.........
|
1687.15 | | CIRCUS::KOLLING | Karen, Sweetie, & Holly; in Calif. | Wed Aug 24 1988 14:25 | 4 |
| Save money fast. And don't forget, if he goes to the management about
your cat, you can tell them about his behavior, so you're not powerless
here.
|
1687.16 | | SALEM::NOYCE | My black furry dictator doesn't Purr! | Thu Aug 25 1988 00:09 | 20 |
| You are breaking the rule about having a cat knowingly so why
does changing the locks and not giving them a key bother you??
If the plumbing is so bad that things could go bad at any moment
and they just "have" to have a key at a moments notice to get in
then you are in danger(from drowning in you sleep maybe) and should
move out anyway. Is it worth the mental agony you have and will
go thru to stay there? If this guy is as weird as you say what's
to stop him from walking in while you're gone and taking your cat
away and there will be nothing you can say or do about it. You
couldn't even prove it or throw resonable doubt in his direction
unless someone saw him!! You are in a lose-lose situation and
only you can change your situation. There are adds around that
could help you find another place and if money is a concern you
could possibly find an apt. with a room mate at a reasonable rate
with permission to have cats.
We can shed tears for you and give advice but you have to act!
Don't wait too long or the decision will be taken away from you
by others who will act.(landloard)
Good Luck
Ken
|
1687.17 | Don't worry....Be happy | ODIUM::WONG | CLUSTA::TAMIR in disguise | Thu Aug 25 1988 05:53 | 33 |
| What are you supposed to do if someone enters during the day??
You're supposed to march your buns to the office (or call day or
night) and ask the nature if the emergency that caused them to enter
your apartment. There is nothing wrong with INSISTING that before
ANYONE in their employ enters your apartment, you be called at work
and your permission be obtained. They are breaking your lease if
they don't do this!! Hey, you've got rights, lady!! Don't be afraid
of the managment folks. Your lease protects you as well as them.
I live in a no-pets townhouse. I have 2 (oh, make that 7...) cats
and they know I have them. I'm a good tennant, however, and they'd
like to keep me. They know that I must be called before anyone
comes in, unless there's a broken pipe or something. I changed
my locks, gave them a key, and laid down the rules that they must
call me before they come in. This is simple courtesy on their part.
There is one maint. guy, Roger, who takes care of just about everything
in my home, and I trust him, so I don't have the same problem, but
I still don't want him marching in at whim. [BTW, remember Ruth,
next door, who's son is taking my little Meg?? She's private secretary
to the man who owns my complex. If they throw me out, they've got
to throw her out too, and she ain't going nowhere!]
The management company will certainly honour your request to be
notified if someone must enter your apartment. You don't have to
get Bozo fired, just tell them you'd feel better if someone else
took care of any maintenance that needed to be done. Tell them
that, as a woman living alone, you worry, albiet needlessly perhaps,
none the less, you still worry. Tell them that it would ease your
mind considerably if they would honour your very reasonable request.
Hey, you want me to call them??? I'm real good at this stuff....
Mary-the-renter
|
1687.18 | apartment + cat = sacrafice (sometimes) | JULIET::CORDESBRO_JO | | Thu Sep 01 1988 21:02 | 46 |
| I rented (illegally) for years before Ken and I finally bought our
own home. I agree one hundred percent with Mary! The first thing
I would do upon moving in was change all the locks. Then I gave
the landlord one key with explicit instructions not to enter the
apartment without my consent. I also asked for 24 hour advance
notice when non-emergency type repairs needed to be made. This
may sound drastic to some of you but I do not like the feeling of
coming into my house and "knowing" someone has been there.
One of our landlords let himself into our house to drop off the
doors to our fireplace one night. My husband was out of town on
business and I was alone. I got home from work late (after dark)
and discovered that my front door was unlocked. I went next door
and called the police. When they arrived we investigated the house.
We found my phone off the hook, and my patio sliding glass door
open. There in the middle of the floor were the doors to our fireplace
which we had been asking for for months. The police made a incident
report about what they had found. I called the landlord and asked
if he had been by the house. He said yes. I told him that I had
a policeman there making a report and that if he ever entered my
home again without my permission, I would sue him. I was scared
to death! When I discovered the front door unlocked, I was sure
that someone was still in there. There wasn't a light on in the
place, it was pitch black. There was no way that I was going in
there alone.
If you need to give them a reason for not wanting them in your place
say that you have valuables in there and don't want the complex
to find themselves in an uncomfortable position should anything
turn up missing. They will be all for protecting themselves from
lawsuits.
I also agree that you should say something to the management about
the maintanence man being a little "too friendly" and use the
suggestions Mary made about wanting to be careful since you live
alone. Who knows, the guy may be bothering other women in the complex
who have already complained. You may be doing more people a favor
by bringing it up.
If you do get a letter, don't worry about it. Do your best to find
another apartment that you will like just as much. My cats and
I have the dubious distinction of being thrown out of some of the
best apartment complexes in the bay area.
jo
|
1687.19 | STATUS ? | LDP::CORCORAN | | Tue Sep 06 1988 12:31 | 14 |
|
Dear Anonymous:
What's the latest on this situation - Is the wierdo still around?
Basically, I agree with all the other replys. Take your furface
and leave or work a deal with the landlord. There are some landlords
that would be glad to have an extra $25 bucks a month just for allowing
you to have a cat!
I'm sure you'll end up doing what's right for you and your baby!
Good luck & keep us posted
BC
|
1687.20 | Try this | USMRW2::KSHERMAN | Star Fleet Reserve | Thu Sep 08 1988 12:15 | 11 |
| I'd get this sleazeball aside and 'confide' in him that your cat
is particularly important to you " ... since you find it especially
difficult to keep friends since you contracted AIDS."
That should solve all your problems with this bum, and this
'information' cannot be used against you because one cannot be denied
housing on the basis of 'medical condition.'
KBS
|
1687.21 | the best solution yet! | MYVAX::LUBY | DTN 287-3204 | Fri Sep 09 1988 12:46 | 6 |
|
Dear Anonymous,
I need a roommate... you probably read my ad. If you are
interested in living in Nashua with my 2-1/2 cats and me,
let me know!
|