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    I use it and it does work.  We buy it at the feed store in our town
    (Morgan Hill, CA).
    
    Jo

    RE: .1

    Just out of curiosity, how much does it cost for a 1 pint(16 FL. OZ)
    bottle?

    With seven cats (at the moment) I don't waste time with 16 oz bottles!
    I have been buying in 32 oz (I think) and buy several at a time.
    I also get a discount from the feed store since I buy most of my
    cat food there (in 50lb bags!) and some medications and stuff. 
    I will check tonight on the price.
    
    Jo

    The price on a 32 oz bottle of Natures Miracle is $4.90.
    I think that is very reasonable.  How much is it out in your
    area?
    
    Jo
    

    RE .4

    The price on a 32 oz bottle of Natures Miracle at Nashua Aquarium & Pet
    Center is $6.99.  I only shop there if I'm desperate since their prices
    are comparatively high.  I would like to find some mail order place
    that might save me a few bucks on some of the products I use.  Thanks
    for the info.

    Joe

    I tried Nature's Miracle last week, with mixed results.  I would
    be interested to hear from other users if I did something wrong.
    I tried it in two situations:
    
    Holly had urinated on the bed awhile back.  At the time, I dumped
    some rubbing alcohol over the area, and that removed most of the
    odor.  However, I'd still get a whiff of the smell if I happened
    to sleep with my face right in that place, even through the mattress
    protector(sic) and sheet.  Last week I saturated the area with NM,
    and waited for it to dry.  The directions do say that the odor won't
    disappear until things are completely dry.  It took a couple of
    days for the mattress to feel dry, and that was 3 or 4 days ago.
    I am assuming the inside has dryed by now.  The state of things
    is exactly as before I used the NM, except instead of a whiff of
    urine smell you get a whiff of the NM smell, which is not pleasant,
    once the citrus overtones have worn off.
    
    Where it did work was, I saturated some newly washed sneakers, let
    them sit for a couple of hours, then rewashed them.  No smell.
    So maybe NM is only appropriate for things that can be washed?
    

    I usually let it sit for awhile and then blot it up with paper towels.
    I haven't had a chance to use it on any old stains since our house
    is fairly new and the cats have been good.  Maybe it doesn't work
    as well on old stains.  
    
    This past weekend, Kalliste urinated on one of the mats in the backseat
    of my (new!) car.  He is a whole male so the scent was very strong.
    It took several applications but the odor and stain did disappear
    (cream interior).
    
    I agree that it does work very well on things that can be washed.
    Try blotting it up on the mattress and see if that helps.  The stuff
    does get kinda stinky when it is working (all those enzymes at work).
    
    Jo

    I just talked to the company on the phone, and they say it can take,
    worst case, 2- 3 weeks for the mattress to dry, at which point the
    odor should be gone.  I tend to believe this incredible sounding
    time estimate since the top took so long to dry.  So, we'll see.
    

    I actually tried a hair dryer on day one and a half.  It took forever
    to dry the top and then a few hours later I noticed the top was
    wet again, presumably because the moisture had soaked up from the
    inside.  This is really weird stuff in terms of staying wet.  I
    think progress is being made though, becuase I can get closer to
    it without smelling the NM today than I could yesterday.
    

    This product sounds really good!  Has anyone seen it in the UK?

    Or, could someone who uses it let me know the active ingredients, please,
    so that I can try and find something equivalent over here.

    Many thanks,

    Ali

    I spoke with Joe Weiss, owner of the Joe Weiss Company, on the
    telephone yesterday.  He informed me that they are just starting
    to market a powdered form of Nature's Miracle.  You mix 2 tablespoons
    of the powder per pound of cat litter, an presto, no urine smell
    from the litter box!
    
    I'll be getting some soon and will post the results.  I've three
    indoor kitties who have volunteered to test the powder to the max!
    

    Joe, do let me (us) know how it works out!  My 15 would be
    happy to test it for Joe Weiss, if he is interested.  I
    use 40 lbs of litter in their swimming pool!  Can you send
    me mail with his name & number?
    
    E.T.

    PetCetra in Hudson, NH carries the Nature's Miracle powder in
    
    2 sizes - 5 oz.  for $2.75
    
              2 lbs. for $10.75
    
    
    
    E.T.

    PETcetra in Hudon, NH carries the Nature's Miracle liquid in
    16 oz. containers for $5.66.
    
    Joe
    

    Someone told me that household ammonia works wonders on furniture
    etc.  It does not rot the material as bleach will.
    
    Any drugstore or chemist like Boots will sell it.
    
    Julia

    RE: .16
    
    Please correct me if I'm wrong but ammonia is the LAST thing you
    want to use on urine.  The prime smell component of urine is ammonia.
    As a matter of fact if you have a rug you'd like your cat to piss
    on just sprinkle it with ammonia.
      
    As a matter of fact take a whiff of ammonia, verrrrrrrrry gently
    since it'll burn your nose out, and then take a whiff of the litter
    box.  Somewhat the same, eh?
    
    Rather than ammonia are you thinking of vinegar?

    Joe

    Well, this is what I thought when the person told me about it. 
    But I tried it last night and it seemed to cancel out the smell
    after a while.  I think it must have some deordorising agent in
    it that freshens linen and material.  In fact, it even says on the
    bottle that you can use it diluted in your wash to freshen your
    clothes.  
    
    Seems a bit ironic to me but it also seems to work.
    
    Julia

    My mom just received her order of Natures Miracle and was amazed
    at how well it removed an oil stain that was embedded in the carpet
    for quite a long time.  I'm not sure exactly what caused the stain
    but do know that it came out right away.
    

    
    I picked up some of the Natures Miracle Powdered Form and added
    it to the litter boxes.  This stuff is great!  It has practically
    eliminated completely the urine odor from the boxes!  I say
    "practically" since I'm experimenting with using less than they
    advise on the container.  The stuff is not cheap, but boy does it
    work!
    

    anybody know where this stuff can be purchased around Maynard, Ma?
    
    Deb
    

    You might try Erikson Feed & Grain - maybe they can order it if
    you give them a call.
    
    When I worked in Maynard, they were very good about stuff like that!
    
    E.T.

    Deb,
    
    I ordered a quart of Natures Miracle from the Animal City catalog
    in California.  They were very prompt in their shipment.  I haven't
    tried it yet but my mom has and already used up her quart (in less
    than 2 weeks) and is now borrowing mine.  Anyway, I don't have the
    number for Animal City handy, but can post it tomorrow if you'd
    like.
    
    /Roberta
    

    RE: .23
    
    Please post the number and/or address of Animal City.  I'd like
    to find someplace that sells the NM for less than what I pay here
    in NH.
    
    Thanks Roberta!
    
    Joe
    

    10-4, Joe!  Consider it done.  I will post it tonite or tomorrow
    morning, the latest.
    
    /Roberta
    

    Animal City:  (619) 453-7845.
    
    Please note that it probably isn't worth it to order just the Nature's
    Miracle since there is a freight charge of $3.50 for all orders
    under $50.00.  An order that costs $50.00 and up has no freight
    charge attached.  I ordered a few things so I felt as if I was getting
    a bargain on the N.M., but if that's all you order, you're not really
    saving any money.
    
    Here's the scoop:
    
    A quart of Natures Miracle is $4.75.  A gallon is $14.59.  They
    also have Natures Miracle Pet Mess Clean-up, 12 oz. costs $4.39.
    
    The order number for a quart of N.M. is 945002.  A gallon is 945004.
    The pet mess clean-up is 945001.
    
    If you want to buy in bulk, 12 or more quart sizes of N.M. will cost
    you $2.95 each.  12 or more of the pet mess clean-up is $3.95 each.
    
    Hope this information is helpful.
    
    /Roberta
    

    what is the difference between the Nature's Miracle and the Nature's
    Miracle Pet Mess Cleanup?  When would I use one and not the other?
    
    Deb

    According to the catalog:
    
    The pet mess clean-up consists of absorbent, spongy, flakes made
    to clean and absorb liquidy messes such as urine feces, and vomit.
    The flakes are supposed to absorb the liquidy mess, turning it into
    a relatively dry material you remove off carpets and floors either
    by vacuuming up or sweeping into a dustpan.
    
    The Natures Miracle liquid is used to remove odors and stains that
    have already set, like smoke, perspiration, food, and urine.
    
    Hope this clarifies.
    
    /Roberta