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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

1505.0. "TRAUMA AT THE VET'S" by CPRS::CAISSIE () Wed Jun 29 1988 12:20

    Brat and I had a VERY traumatic experience at the vet's this week.
    Several weeks ago, Brat developed this patch of what I call skin
    crud on the back of his neck.  I took him to the vet, and that's
    where the trauma began.  Brat has never liked the vet, and it's
    not unusual to pry him from his carrier hissing.  The vet shaved
    a patch on Brat's neck, gave him a steriod shot, and applied some
    creame to the spot in question.  I forced a hissing Brat back into
    his carrier, and we went home.  
    
    I had to take Brat back to the vet Monday.  This time, I had to
    force him into his carrier (he usually goes in easily), and not
    only did I have to pry him out of it at the vet's, but Brat attacked
    both the vet and I shortly thereafter.  He literally bared his teeth,
    growled, and hurled himself at whichever of us went near him.  The
    vet got bit, and I've got one hellava claw gouge on my neck.  Brat
    shit all over the examining table, himself, and me.  The vet was
    unable to give Brat any treatment, nor was he able to examine him.
    Giving him a bath (I've never done that before and hope I never have 
    to do it again) that night just added to the day's experiences.
          
    I would be estatic if I never had to take Brat to the vet again,
    but reality is that he has to have his shots, which means we go
    back to the vet sometime in December.  Does anybody have any
    suggestions on how I can make this less traumatic for both of us?
    I feel so bad to be causing the cat so much distress, and it's very
    frightening to have my sweetheart attack so ferociously.  I can't
    have the vet sedate the cat, because once I get the cat there, neither
    of us can get near Brat.
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1505.1Doesn't sound too good to me...NRADM::CONGERWed Jun 29 1988 12:3714
    
    	Ask your vet to supply you with some tranquilizers that 	
    	you can give your cat about an hour before you plan to 
    	take him to the vets. 
    
    	Is the vet rough in handling Brat? Maybe you should find a 
    	different vet if he's so frightened of this one. I used to 
    	work for a vet that would just kindof grab the cats and shove
    	them around the table (which, of course, didn't work very
    	well), but his female associate was very, very gentle and the
    	cats never minded her at all. It doesn't sound like your vet
    	was very thorough with Brat - I'd be concerned that he had an
    	abcess, not just a surface infection. How is he doing now??
    
1505.2change your vetSHAPES::TAYLORSSharon, Dillan & Sammie - UKWed Jun 29 1988 13:1010
    
    I agree with .1 see if you can get something to sedate him before
    you take him to the vet.
    
    I also agree you should see another vet after all a vet that can't
    handle a cat can't be a very good one - they are trained for this
    sort of behaviour from all animals.
    
    Sharon
    
1505.3HouseCall Vets!EDUC8::TRACHMANWed Jun 29 1988 13:544
    Maybe check into a HouseCall Vet - there are vets that will
    come to your house.
    
    E.T.
1505.4Brat's FineSCAVAX::CAISSIEWed Jun 29 1988 14:5615
    Brat tends to have a rather assertive personality, and I've got
    the scars to prove it, but he's gotten much better in the last year.
    
    I've been keeping an eye on Brat's skin crud, and it hasn't spread
    and one spot has dried up.  I've been creaming it every night with
    the stuff the vet gave me 3 weeks ago; it's definitely not abcessed
    or infected.  Brat's appetite, elimination, and lifestyle hasn't
    been affected.  He's even forgiven me for the trauma I put him through;
    a few hours after the visit, Brat climbed on my lap, rubbed his
    face against me, and purred away.  He can be such a sweetie when
    he wants to.
    
    The vet wasn't handling him roughly, but he did seem afraid of the
    cat.  Vet visits have been getting progressively worse over the
    years, and I'm at the point where I don't know what to do.
1505.5CIRCUS::KOLLINGKaren, Sweetie, & Holly; in Calif.Wed Jun 29 1988 15:0710
    Find a new vet.  When I first got Pussycat and he was still feral,
    there was a huge difference in how vets reacted, and consequently
    a huge difference in how Pussycat reacted.  The vet I finally found,
    was very calm and really likes cats, and Pussycat quieted right
    down.  Quite a contrast to ring around the examining room accompanied
    by hair-raising howls and human blood.
    
    I think also part of the problem may have been that it wasn't very
    long between visits.  Brat may have forgotten a bit by December.
    
1505.6Try a pillow caseUSMRW2::KSHERMANStar Fleet ReserveWed Jun 29 1988 15:2112
    One trick I've learned to get a reluctant cat into a carrier: use
    a pillow case. They go into the case pretty easily (they sem to
    like it), and once inside the case, the entire case can be scooped-up
    by the neck and eased into the carrier. Once inside the carrier,
    the cat emerges from the pillow case none the worse.
    
    I still haven't figured-out how to get them OUT of the carrier,
    though.
    
    
    KBS
    
1505.7FSHQOA::RWAXMANA Cat Makes a Purrfect FriendWed Jun 29 1988 15:3117
    The vet I use is wonderful with Nikki who is the biggest scardeycat
    on this planet.  She has this knack of scooping him up without any
    resistance on his part.  He sits very patiently on the examining
    table purring away.  She makes administering pills and other medication
    look so easy; Nikki doesn't flinch.  BUT - as soon as I get him
    home he turns into a tiger, growling and hissing at me when I try
    to do the very same things!
    
    I agree with the others.  Find another vet who is adept at handling
    cats with this type of dispostion.  Cats can sense our nervousness
    and react accordingly.  You have to show them who's boss (getting
    them to believe it is another story...).
    
    Good luck!
    
    /Roberta
     
1505.8NRADM::CONGERThu Jun 30 1988 09:084
    
    	Just out of curiosity, who is this vet? Sounds like the one
    	I used to work for....
    
1505.9Try the tranqs.PHENIX::HARQUAILThu Jun 30 1988 09:3010
    If your happy with your Vet, I agree get the tranquilizers.
    My cat Minnow, seems so regal, dignified and shy? But take her
    to the vet and she turns into a wild maniac! In fact try to take
    her anywhere! Anyways we had this problem when we went to get
    the feline luk test. My Vet who is wonderful, what a wild woman
    she could turn into, it took myself the vet and 2 assistants to
    hold her and we didn't get anywhere. At that point my vet handed
    me a small supply of tranqs. and said give her one before you visit.
    
    Marilyn
1505.10FSHQOA::RWAXMANA Cat Makes a Purrfect FriendThu Jun 30 1988 11:267
    RE:  .8
    
    The vet described in .7 is Dr. Nord of the Framingham Animal Hospital
    on Edgell Road.  She is wonderful with animals.  I recently moved
    to Grafton and still don't mind driving the 1/2 hour to have her
    treat my kids.
    
1505.11Kitties and carriersICEBOX::FEASEAndrea Midtmoen FeaseThu Jun 30 1988 11:2833
    Re. getting cats into carriers:
    
    Try putting the carrier on end so that the opening is facing the
    ceiling.  Pick up kitty and drop him in, hind legs first.  If you
    can get the hind legs in, the front ones and the head follow pretty
    easily.
    
    Re. getting cats out of carriers:
    
    At home, they walk out.  At the vets, however, take the carrier
    and, starting at a horizontal position (opening facing a wall),
    dip the carrier slowly until the opening is facing the table (carrier
    is now vertical).  This generally gets the kitties out as there
    isn't much to brace against.  If kitty is still in the carrier,
    either shake gently so kitty loses his/her grip and slips onto the
    table (hold carrier about 1 foot off the table; 6 feet is unacceptable
    :-) :-) !!) or pull on body.  Kitty will come out.
    
    Re. personality changes.
    
    Loki and Fluffy are very good at the vet's.  They freeze, so the
    vet can examine, weigh, give shots, etc. easily.  Bigfoot, the gentle
    giant, however, turns into a screaming mountain lion at the vet's.
    Hiss, growl, scream, swat (with 7 toes on each front and 5 on each
    back foot, he's quite a handful!)!  It takes one assistant to hold
    him (I can't - he bites!) and one vet to give shots and clip claws.
    The exam itself he does okay.  The way he screams, though, you'd
    think they were cutting off his paws and not his claws!
    
    ... Maybe I'll try the tranqs too if the monthly claw clipping gets
    too hazardous for the vet's health :-) ;-) :-) ... !!
    
                                     - Andrea
1505.12The Vet's Name Is......CPRS::CAISSIEThu Jun 30 1988 11:483
    Abbott Animal Hospital in Worcester.  Frankly, I forget the name
    of the doctor we saw.
    
1505.13NRADM::CONGERThu Jun 30 1988 15:033
    	
    	re .12		Nope, that's not the one...