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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

686.0. "Need help with daymares" by VIDEO::TEBAY (Natural phenomena invented to order) Mon Jul 27 1987 15:32

    Need some help. My tuxcedo male Skeeter who is 7 years old
    has suddenly started a very freaky behavior.
    
    It started about three weeks ago. He sits on the basement stairs
    or in the basement , cries everyso oftenand cannot be coaxed up
    the stairs even with Bonkers(which is his favorite treat).
    
    He started this on a Sat-nothing unusal that day. He stays down
    
    there until all lights are out and I am in bed than he comes
    up. (I can be reading inbed and thats ok). When this first
    started I checked him over to make sure it wasn't an illness
    of somekind and he seemed ok.No fever,eyes clear etc.
    
    After about a week of this I put water,food,and a box downstairs
    as there were some messes. Evidently he wasn't even coming
    up to eat or use the box. He is eating,drinking and using the
    box but stillwon't come up the stairs until dark. In fact he
    sits at the top and stares like something is going to get him.
    
    He has lost some weight. He has never liked to be held or
    picked up but not I can't even pick him up.
    
    I have 5 cats counting him and he has always been at the
    top of the heap. His behavior around the others (once it
    is dark and all the lights are out) is what it always has
    been. That is to say he tolerates the others unless they get too
    close and than its growl city.
    
    They are all indoor cats,eat Science Diet,drink spring
    water,and in good health. There haven't been any major
    upheavals in the rountine since May when we moved and he
    adjusted back normal within three days.
    
    Hedoesn't seem to be in pain as when he is on the bed with me I
    can poke him all over and no problems but he sounds in pain
    when he isin the cellar.
    
    I have neverr had a sudden change in behavior like this without
    a reason and I can't just seem to find one.
    
    Any good cat pyschs out there?
    
    
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686.1see a vetVAXWRK::SKALTSISDebMon Jul 27 1987 15:574
    I'd bring the cat to the vet for a checkup. The cat may have a lowgrade
    fever, or an absess; or a bladder infection.
    
    Deb
686.2Rustle Rustle.....POUNCE!TSG::MCGOVERNSzechuan VanillaTue Jul 28 1987 09:5112
    Is this cat a hunter?  Maybe there is something in the cellar that
    he wants to stalk (mice, small rodents, hippopotami, etc.) and have
    captured his attention.
    
    What to do in this case I haven't any idea, except maybe check it
    out yourself and set a few traps?
    
    Having the vet look at the cat is probably a good idea, too.
    
    Maybe he's just hitting the catnip a bit too hard ;^)
    
    MM
686.3TOMLIN::ROMBERGKathy Romberg DTN 276-8189Tue Jul 28 1987 10:163
	 Is the cellar dark? Maybe the daylight is bothering his eyes? I
     agree with the others - a call to the vet is probably in order.
686.4<Maybe Dark Glasses>25192::MECLERFRANKTue Jul 28 1987 11:3810
    re.: .3
    
    I agree that it sounds like your feline buddy has developed some
    sort of eye problem.  Even though the basement is darker than the
    rest of the house during the day it may still be bright enough to
    cause some discomfort (cries of pain).  Definitely should be followed
    up by trip to the vet.  May require a veterinary ophthalmologist
    although these tend to be few and far between.
    
    Good luck.  Hate to see our friends in pain.
686.5updateVIDEO::TEBAYNatural phenomena invented to orderWed Jul 29 1987 11:3019
    Well a trip to the vet revealed nothing. However,
    I was somewhat put off by the vet who seemed to think that
    a major change in behavior was in my mind.
    
    I am continuing to mointor him as to weight, temperature
    etc.
    
    One thing that occured to me is that this cat is the one who walks
    in walls. The cellar has a place where he can get into the space
    between the cellar ceiling and the upstairs floor. This space
    is filled with fiber glass insulation. Several times he forgot
    how he got in and proceeded to tear himself through the batting.
    
    I stapled the batting firmly to keep him from doing this again.
    
    Could this be sometype of a reaction to the fiberglass?
    
    (The stuff made me itch for days after stapling)
    
686.6Watson, I think we have it!25192::MECLERFRANKWed Jul 29 1987 12:4218
    Suzie,
    
    I think that was the clue we needed.  Fiberglass fibers are intensely
    irritating and some of them are too small to be easily seen.  I'll
    bet dollars to donuts that your cat has small fibers in his eyes
    and that they are irritated as all h*ll.  Call either Angell Memorial
    or Tufts School of Veterinary Medicine and find out who has a
    veterinary ophthalmologist on staff.  Call the V.O. and tell him
    the symptoms you have presented here plus the wall and ceiling
    crawling.  He will probably want you to come in for an examination.
    The fibers can actually imbed in the eye and stay around for quite
    some time, possibly lead to infection.
    
    Wall and ceiling crawling is definitely a habit to break.
    
    Good luck,
    
    Frank
686.7MIGHTY::WILLIAMSBryan WilliamsWed Jul 29 1987 13:379
    Your vet should be able to administer the basic "eye trauma" test,
    but that would only show something if there was a scratch on the
    cornea itself. Would fiberglass cause trauma, or would it just be
    in the eye area and cause discomfort, or both?
    
    I agree with .6 - fiberglass is murder.  This could be the root
    cause.
    
    Bryan
686.8VAXWRK::DUDLEYWed Jul 29 1987 16:0711
    When people work with fiberglass, they're supposed to wear gloves
    and eye covering.  The fibers penetrate through the skin.  There's
    no reason to assume felines would not be affected in the same 
    manner.  I concur with the previous noter who suggested you con-
    tact Tufts and a V.O.  I'd also suggest you get yourself a new
    vet.  There's nothing worse than a vet trying to tell you there's
    nothing wrong with your cat when you know damn well that there
    is.  I'd don't pay a vet good money to feel I have to justify my
    concerns with my animal.
    
    Donna
686.9thanksVIDEO::TEBAYNatural phenomena invented to orderThu Jul 30 1987 10:024
    Thanks folks. I am calling Tufts as soon as I finish here.
    
    Will let you know.
    
686.10Dr. B might be closerTOMLIN::ROMBERGKathy Romberg DTN 276-8189Thu Jul 30 1987 13:187
	 You might  also  try  Dr.  Alan  Bachrach in Lincoln. He 'does'
     animal eyes. 

		Kathy
    

686.11Call Dr. B!CLUSTA::TAMIRSun Aug 02 1987 20:408
    A million votes for Dr. Bachrach.  He's office is listed under Vet.
    Ophthamology of New England, in Lincoln, MA.  Tell him Chauncey
    says HI!!
    
    He's the only vet eye doctor in the area, and also is the professor
    of vet ophthamology at Tufts.  And he's so nice with the critters!
    
    Mary
686.12What happened?DELNI::WIXFri Aug 12 1988 14:013
Does anyone know what the final diagnosis was?

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686.13EDUC8::TRACHMANFri Aug 12 1988 14:401
    Dr. Bachrach is WONDERFUL.  Don't hesitate.
686.14updateVIDEO::TEBAYNatural phenomena invented to orderFri Aug 12 1988 16:575
    Just realized that I never updated this note.
    
    It was evidently due to the wall walking as he had scratches
    in both eyes. Medication cleared it up and he is now fine.
    
686.15Good News!EDUC8::TRACHMANFri Aug 12 1988 17:501
    Good!!!