Conference misery::feline_v1

	


	Yazoo's agressiveness sounds like a lot of jealousy and 
	sibling rivalry getting out of hand.  As well as, dare I 
	say it, hormonal unbalance.  Have you noticed if she gets
	worse when she comes into season ?

	You may not agree with this, but have you considered having
	Yazoo spayed, I realise that you may wish to breed from your
	cats but your Yazoo really does not have the right temperament
	to breed from, you would only be encouraging bad traits.
	Your Bubulle sounds a sweetie.

	The spaying should help in calming her down.  She will probably
	still be the dominant sister after spaying but the agression
	should go.

	CJA

	As an aside, neutering definitely does the same for agressive 
	Toms.

    I had a very similar situation develope about a year ago.  It seemed
    that my furry little family was falling apart at the seams!  The
    fighting and chase scenes were quite lowd and seemed violent.  I
    tried everything I could to defuse the situation, but it only seemed
    to get worse.  I am not sure I understand what was happening with
    the kitties and their relationships at the time, but the situation
    was resolved (you notice I didn't say that _I_ resolved it).  Half
    of the problem is that people *think* that they understand their
    cats' feelings.  You say that Bubulle "didn't understand" why her
    sister was acting that way.  I suggest that she probably does know
    what's is going on, and they are in the process of working out 
    some sort of disagreement.  Perhaps they don't agree with how to
    deal with the strange black cat.  Perhaps they are a bit stressed
    out by the new house.  You may never know for sure.  Here is how
    I  delt with the problem when I had it.  I completely ignored their
    fights (not an easy thing to do!).  By getting involved, you just
    muck up the works of whatever resolution they will come up with.
    Once I did that, it only took two weeks for peace to return.  Try
    it, and let us know how it goes.
          
    Marion

    Not sure if I'm interpreting the base not correctly or not.
    I 'think' you are telling us that you had the cats spayed?
    Is that what you meant by 'operated on'.  Then you said that
    you finally decided to do 'it' and started letting them out
    after two weeks.  What do you mean?  That you finally had 
    them spayed, or that you finally decided to let them out?
    
    I have 3 indoor cats.  When a strange cat comes near the house,
    I have one cat who gets VERY upset.  He usually will 'turn' on
    the other male cat, meaning he seems to take this aggression 
    out on the other cat.   It seems to be his way of letting the
    strange cat know who's boss in the house?  Fortunately it is
    not as violent as your problem seems to be.
    
    I would have to agree with the previous reply.  Try to let
    the cats work it out on their own.  NEVER try to break up or
    seperate two cats that are fighting.  You could do serious 
    damage to either yourself, or a cat, as you have seen.
    
    Step aside for a short time and see what happens.  
    
    Donna

    If you haven't done so alreasy, do consider getting them spayed;
    it does wonders for their termperment. If you have already done
    this, ask your vet about OVABAN. It is a hormone and it works almost
    instantly to calm the cats down. The cats will get gradually decreasing
    doses for a few weeks. The vet said that while the effect is to
    immedialty calm the cat down, the cat remembers pleasent times rather
    than upsetting times. It worked real well with Argus and Alex; Argus
    used to go into a rage when he saw her, now they are friends.
    
    Deb

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    Sorry if I wasn't very clear (..emotion maybe..) they have both been
    spayed ( couldn't find the right word ) two month ago and then began to
    go out in the "Great Big World" two weeks afterwards.


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    < .3>  Let them fight
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    I supposed that this is THE BEST solution possible as I won't be able
    to know what they are thinking or feeling (jealousy ??, Yazoo being
    tired of always having her sister "looking" after her ...??) but I've
    never been used to see cats fighting and my friend and I couldn't
    refrain from getting involved even if we "knew" that it was not the
    right thing to do !!!


    I will try to take them out again this week-end (my boy friend is not
    very happy about the idea...) and see what happens. At the same time I
    will try to find the OVABAN ( if it does exist in France )
    
    Thank you for your advice so far, I feel better knowing that it happened
    to other and that solutions have been found.
    Anymore commentaries or ideas are wellcome,
    Lise 

    I totally agree that animals should be left to sort out their 
    differences.  The only time I have ever interfered was when we
    introduced a kitten into the house with a four year old spayed
    female.  While the kitten was tiny we made the spare bedroom its
    home while we were at work, supplying all the necessaries.
    
    There was one day when we were at home and both cats were mooching
    freely around, I was out of the room and Chris was perched precariously
    hanging some curtains, wouldn't you just know it, the older cat
    seemed to be waiting for just this opportunity to grab the kitten
    by the neck and started throwing it round.  Never has one human
    moved so fast...
    
    The older cat, even after three years, has never liked the new
    addition, but at least now tolerates her, although not to have any
    contact.   The older one is allright with the other cat (an older
    male who was already in situ when she arrived), but is extremely
    aggressive towards ANY other cats.  I hesitate to give an animal
    human traits but I can equate it only with jelousy.