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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

535.0. "advice needed-attack cat." by LABC::ALLEN (Equestrian Lady) Mon Mar 30 1987 17:14

I have a 5 year old, neutered, male, Snowshoe.  I have had Sy since
kittenhood. Sy is very smart and I wouldn't give him up for the world.  
But I do have a serious problem with him, hopefully someone has some 
good advice.  I am a single lady, I live alone, and Sy is very much an 
attack cat.  I live in the Los Angeles basin and from time to time I've 
had unfriendlies come to the door, Sy has reacted properly, by growling, 
hissing and in one case attacking a man who came in uninvited.  So 
please keep this in mind when reading what my problem is.

The problem is that Sy doesn't always like my friends, or family members.  
If he deceides he doesn't like a particular date or family member, I can't 
leave that person and Sy alone.  Sometimes he will tolerate someone for 
one visit and the next time he is on the war path.  Hence the problem, lack 
of return dates and family members who don't want to visit.  To add to the 
problem, Sy has pancreatitics.  He was on an IV, at the vets for a week, 
in December.  He is on a special diet, So he cannot be bribed with treats.   
Sy has only taken well to 3 people in the last year.  These people can be 
left alone with the cat and are capable of coming and going without me 
being around.  Any advice will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

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535.1Don't drown the kitty!EMIRFI::KEENERMon Mar 30 1987 19:4610
    Whenever Sy decides to munch on someone or attack, have a small
    spray bottle (like for plants) that will spray a fine mist.  Give
    Sy a little squirt (a lot of water or a stream in unnecessary) and
    firmly say "NO"!  He will learn in time what "No" means.  This
    generally works to teach a cat to break a bad habit.
    
    Good luck.
    
    Ellen
535.2attack catLABC::ALLENEquestrian LadyMon Mar 30 1987 19:556
    Thanks for the advice, I have tried that, He goes away for about
    5 minutes and then returns. He does understand NO!, but when he
    gets it into his mind to attack, he does. If I get in the way he
    will even attack me.  Its like he goes a little crazy.  I usually
    wait until the company arrives to feed him, then his tummy is full
    and he goes to nap.  I will try the bottle again on mist.
535.3Maybe he is part Doberman 8^)PUZZLE::CORDESJAMon Mar 30 1987 20:5915
    Is Sy eutered?  It seems unusual for him to attack "mom".  Is he
    being playful when he attacks or is he being downright aggressive
    with the intent to hurt?  I don't really have any suggestions other
    than to second the spray bottle technique.  How long has it been
    since he was seen by the vet?  I'm thinking that maybe there is
    a physical reason for his behavior, like maybe he is having some
    internal pain.  If it is not medical, he does need to be taught
    that his behavior is socially unacceptable.  
    
    Don't laugh...but have you thought about having a cat psychologist
    look at him?  I once wrote to Carole Wilborne about one of my cats.
    The same problem I was having with him was featured in her column
    in Cat Fancy magazine the following month.
    
    Jo Ann
535.4It's the old paper trick!NEBVAX::BELFORTENever try to out-stubborn a cat!Tue Mar 31 1987 10:0617
    A friend has a Smoke Persian who attacks at the drop of a hat, or
    sooner if he decideds you aren't his type.  So far, nobody is his
    type!
    
    The vet told her to have a rolled up newspaper handy at all times.
    Not tightly rolled, but enough that it will sting and the noise
    will scare the hell out of him.  It worked................ until
    Leo realized that if he tore the papers to shreds when no one was
    home, he was safe.
    
    Now she has 2 problems!
    
    M-L
    
    Actually, the newspaper trick did work.  He doesn't attack now,
    at least not as much as he use to, but he does have fun tearing
    those papers to teeny-tiny bits.
535.5Hormones, maybeUSHS01::MCALLISTERMars or Bust!!Tue Mar 31 1987 10:215
    If Sy is altered, you may have a hormonal imbalance.  A complete
    blood chemistry would show this problem.  There are hormonal
    suppliments which are available for the mean cat syndrome.
    
    Dave
535.6a few suggestionsNEWVAX::BOBBI brake for Wombats!Tue Mar 31 1987 13:1948
    When we first got Rascal he was a 2 1/2 yr. old, 16 lb  monster!
    (neutered, by the way... didn't make him docile...)

    Of his previous owners, the females had never treated him well,
    so he came to us with a definate bias against human females. Being
    a human female myself, I wasn't too fond about this behavior - he
    would allow you to pet him and then would immediately turn around
    and bite or scratch (not just play nips but hard bites). When we
    had friends over, he would walk over to the females and nip at their
    legs. Needless to say, they ended up being intimidated by this...not
    to mention it was embarassing to us as hosts!
    
    The solutions we came up with varied. Short term solutions, when it
    looks like the cat may attack, rolled up newspaper, water spray, a
    sharp "NO", a light tap on the fanny, being put into a "quiet" spot
    (usually means locked in the bathroom for a short period) or
    combination  of the above all seemed to be good deterrents. Also,
    if it is someone who you would like to have visit, have them feed
    the cat. Not snacks, but dinner. When we went on vacation, one of
    our friends (a female he frequently attacked) had to feed him (some
    people are REALLY good friends!) and because of that, he must have
    decided she was ok, because he doesn't attack her anymore.
    
    For long term training, since I was living with the cat full time and
    didn't need to go around looking like a scratching post, we were able
    to train him to the phrase "no claws". When he would use rough
    behavior, I would grab him by the scruff of the neck, make eye contact
    and say "NO" in a loud and annoyed voice and would put him in another
    room for a short amount of time. 
    
    It took several months, but his behavior calmed down quite a bit.
    He still will rough-house occassionally and will need to be reminded
    that he is not to bite/scratch, but mostly he is very good. He probably
    will never be  docile, whether it was his upbringing or is his nature,
    but he is alot calmer now. Also, when he is let outside, his nature
    is almost the opposite - quite, loving, will let you do almost anything
    to him..... 
    
    Maybe your's is bored. If you can't let your's out, maybe another kitty
    to help work off the excess energy would help? That was something else
    that we did (thought not for that reason).About three months after
    getting Rascal, we took in Merlin and they romp all over the house,
    getting rid of all that excess energy.
    
    Good luck with yours - they can be trained.... don't let them convince
    you otherwise!
    
    janet (an ex-scratching post!)