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| 458.1 | I will give this a shot | PUZZLE::CORDESJA | | Fri Jan 23 1987 17:29 | 30 |
| I will try to answer your question as best as I can. First of all
I would like to point you to a file that set up already. It is
somewhere in the 350's I think. The name of the topic is "Any
Interest?" One of my fellow breeders outlined a typical day at
a cat show from an exhibitors point of view.
To get on with it, Alot goes on at a cat show. Aside from the obvious
(cats) there are usually vendors selling everything from cat toys
and litter boxes, to ceramic gift cats, t-shirts, and even some
vet supplies.
Each judge at the show has his own ring or area in which he judges
the cats. There are anywhere from 3-6 rings depending upon which
association sponsors the show. In other words, there are from 3-6
mini cat shows going on at once, since each judge sees the cats
and judges them independently of his fellow judges.
The cats are judged against a written standard for their breed,
how well they conform to the standard. They are also judged against
other cats in their breed. This is just basic info, there is a
lot to it. Each judge will select what he/she thinks are the top
ten cats in the show. These cats are given final awards, usually
consisting of a rosette and maybe some type of prize (not always).
If you would like more detailed info, I could send you a flyer that
a local cat club hands out to spectators. It gives more detail
about different awards that are handed out during the judging process.
Let me know if you want it.
Jo Ann
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| 458.2 | Your node is unreachable! | PUZZLE::CORDESJA | | Mon Jan 26 1987 15:24 | 9 |
| Bryan, I have been unable to reach you through mail so far today.
I will bring in the flyer and reprint it here tomorrow. The
information contained in it is geared towards the average cat show
spectator. If you would also like a copy let me know. Sometimes
it helps to take it with you to the shows as a reference since things
get so confusing (overheard at a show "wait a minute, how can they
all get the first place ribbon?")
Jo
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| 458.3 | Thanks | MIGHTY::WILLIAMS | Bryan Williams | Tue Jan 27 1987 12:56 | 7 |
| Thanks, Jo. I know there are network problems in the links to PKO
or somesuch.
If you are going to type it in, that would be great. If not, a quick
summary? Thanks for the time.
Bryan
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| 458.4 | This is a long one! | PUZZLE::CORDESJA | | Tue Jan 27 1987 14:00 | 171 |
| WHAT HAPPENS AT A CAT SHOW
To those who are new to cat shows we offer this brief explanation
as to what is happening at the show.
When you purchased your ticket you may have noticed show catalogues
being sold. The catalog lists every cat in the show by class
(longhair/shorthair, kitten, championship,etc.) and breed. Each
cat has its name listed along with its registration number, birthdate,
parents, breeder and owner. To the right of this information is
a shorter number, which is the show number for the cat. Cats are
not called or judged by their name but by their show number. If
you are looking for a particular breed or cat, find its number in
the catalogue and then find the cage with that number; there is
often a benching chart posted to help you do this.
As you enter the show hall you'll notice a lot of activity. The
cats are benched in the rows of cages in the main part of the hall.
This is where the cats stay when they are not being judged. The
cages are decorated by the exhibitor.
The judging rings are usually located around the edges of the show
hall. They are identified with the ring number, the judges name
and type of ring. Each cat is judged on specifications listed in
a written standard for the breed. They are also judged on condition,
presentation, and temperament. Each judge looks at every cat, so
in a four ring show the same cat is judged four times. Longhair
Specialty judges, however, do not judge the shorthair cats, and
Shorthair Specialty judges do not judge longhair cats.
Depending on the size of the show there can be all sorts of "extras"
going on besides the judging. Retail vendors have booths thta sell
everything for that special feline, there are information booths,
refreshments, and so on. Have fun browsing!
SOME CAT SHOW ETIQUETTE:
PLEASE DON'T TOUCH THE CATS!!! You'll notice the judges disinfect
their hands before and after handling each cat. This is done to
prevent the spread of infectious diseases between cats. Being careful
in this way you can prevent a cat from becoming seriously ill.
Do not speak to a judge while they are judging.
The cats in the judging ring are there to be judged. Do not walk
into the ring to get a closer look. Seats are provided outside
the judging ring for spectators. If you see a cat being judged
that you would like to see closer, remember its number and find
its benching cage.
Thank you.
WELCOME TO OUR SHOW! ENJOY YOURSELF!
AN EXPLANATION OF CFA AWARDS
Purebred, CFA registered cats are judged to a written standard for
their breed.
For judging, the cat breeds are divided into two general groups:
Longhair and Shorthair. In an All Breed ring the judge sees all
competing cats, and longhair cats compete against shorthair cats
for the Best Cat in show award. In the Shorthair Specialty rings,
shorthair cats compete against shorthair cats for Best Cat in show;
and in Longhair Specialty rings longhair cats compete against longhair
cats for Best Cat in show.
KITTEN CLASS - are for any registered kitten between 4 and 8 months
old. Kittens only compete within their breeds according to their
color class or division.
CHAMPIONSHIP CLASSES - are for registered cats 8 months old or older.
OPEN CLASS - Cats who have not completed the requirements to
become a Champion.
CHAMPION CLASS - Cats who have won 6 "Winners Ribbons" and have
been confirmed Champions by CFA.
GRAND CHAMPION CLASS - Cats who have achieved 200 points by
defeating other champions in competition, and have been confirmed
Grand Champions by CFA.
PREMIERSHIP CLASSES - are for registered cats 8 months old or older,
and who have been neutered or spayed.
OPEN CLASS - Cats who have not completed the requirements to
become a Premier.
PREMIER CLASS - Cats who have won 6 "Winners Ribbons" and have
been confirmed Premiers by CFA.
GRAND PREMIER CLASS - Cats who have achieved 75 points by defeating
other Premiers in competition, and have been confirmed Grand
Premiers by CFA.
HOUSEHOLD PET CLASS - are for unregistered cats. All Household
Pets must be altered (excepting kittens). They may NOT be declawed.
Household Pets are judged on: physical condition, temperament,
attractive appearance, color, etc.
For more complete information regarding CFA shows you may write
to CFA, 1309 Allaire Avenue, Ocean NJ 07712. Send $2.00 for the
Show Rules and $2.00 for the Show Standards for all of the recognized
breed standards.
RIBBONS: Blue - first place among those competing of one sex within
a color class and status. (for example: Best
Sealpoint Birman Female Open)
Red - second place as above
Yellow - third place as above
Red, White, & Blue - Winners Ribbon. These are awarded
to the blue ribbon male and blue ribbon female Opens in
each Championship or Premiership Color Class. (In some
shows Purple and White Winners Ribbons are used in
Premiership)
Black - Best of Color Class, awarded to a blue ribbon
winner. (for example: Best Sealpoint Birman)
White - Second best of color class
Purple - Best Champion of breed or division
Brown - Best of breed or division, may be an Open, Champion
or Grand Champion
Orange - Second best of breed or division
Red and White - merit award given to Household Pet entries
Note: Kittens compete only witthin their color class: no best of
breed or division ribbons are awarded.
ROSETTES - Rosettes are awarded in each judges "finals". Final
Awards are given to those kittens or cats each judge thinks are
the best in the show.
Rosettes are awarded to:
Best through 10th best kittens in Allbreed rings
Best through 5th best kittens in Specialty rings (through 10th best
if there are 35 or more kittens entered in each specialty)
Best through 10th best cats in Championship All Breed rings and
Specialty rings
Best and 2nd Best Champions
Best and 2nd Best Longhair Champion and Best and 2nd Best
Shorthair Champion, awarded only in All Breed rings.
Best through 5th Best Cats in Premiership
Best and 2nd Best Premiers
Best and 2nd Best Longhair Premier and Best and 2nd Best
Shorthair Premier, awarded only in All Breed rings.
Best through 10th Best Household Pets
Santa Clara Valley Cat Fanciers, Inc.
I hope this helps make it all more understandable for those who
are new to cat shows. If anyone would like a copy of this, send
me mail.
Jo
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| 458.5 | | PUZZLE::CORDESJA | | Tue Jan 27 1987 14:04 | 4 |
| bryan - you must have entered your note while I was typing it in!
I hope this information will make it easier to understand all that
goes on at a show.
jo
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| 458.6 | CATS SHOW THIS WEEKEND | VIDEO::USHER | | Tue Jan 27 1987 15:26 | 6 |
| Thanks for the info on these shows. Does anyone have a telephone
number or any info on the Copley show this weekend as to what is
being shown when? When it starts and what goes on Saturday vs.
Sunday??
thanks
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| 458.7 | CATS-PLAIN & FANCY | DONJON::SCHREINER | Go ahead, make me PURRR... | Wed Jan 28 1987 13:20 | 28 |
| I know I entered this somewhere else, but can't find it, so I'll
post it here again since there seems to be so much interest in the
Copley show.
The show at the Copley Plaza Hotel (in the Grand Ballroom) is a
CFA show sponsored by Cats-Plain & Fancy.
It's the 7th and 8th of February. I'm not sure of the format, in
the past the format of the show has been to have kittens and Household
Pets one day, and Championship and Premiership (altered cats) the
other. I am not sure if they are using the old format or if this
is a straight 2 day 6 ring show.
The judges are: Allbreed: DJ Thompson, Kachel, Kapilian, Cruz
LH/SH: Lindstrand, Mellies
The entry clerk and person you could call for more information is:
Beth Kelsey, 16 Twilight Dr., Foxboro MA 02035 PH: 617-545-4125
I was not able to reach her to ask her the format, so she may work
during the day.
Hope this helps.
purrs
cin
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| 458.8 | A big THANK YOU to Jo | MIGHTY::WILLIAMS | Bryan Williams | Wed Feb 04 1987 10:12 | 7 |
| Jo,
Thanks for all the work. It is very much appreciated!
See anyone at Copely? Have your DEC badge out?
Bryan
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| 458.9 | A MEETING PLACE A COPLEY, PLEASE? | GLINKA::GREENE | | Wed Feb 04 1987 11:26 | 10 |
| I tried walking around the Marlboro show last fall, DEC badge
prominently displayed. All I got were curious stares from
non-DEC types.
Can we try to set up something like checking on the hour at the
registration booth, or refreshment stand, or bell captain???
I plan to be there both days, probably mid afternoon.
P
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| 458.10 | You are very welcome! | PUZZLE::CORDESJA | | Wed Feb 04 1987 12:04 | 12 |
| Unfortunately, Copley is a little *too* far for me to travel for
a show. I usually limit myself to 3 hour drives but I am getting
braver as time goes on. I will be driving to the L.A. area this
weekend for a show and then next weekend Santa Barbara. These will
be about 6-8 hours each way. In March, I will be flying to a TICA
show in Seattle!
If my Birman continues to do well, I may take in a few more shows
out of my area, but right now I plan on staying pretty close to
home.
Jo
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| 458.11 | Great cat show in San Jose on April 11-12,'87 | PUZZLE::CORDESJA | | Wed Feb 11 1987 14:55 | 42 |
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MISSION RAFAEL SHORTHAIRS PRESENTS
SEASON FINALE
April 11 - 12, 1987
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Loretta Baugh................................................Allbreed
Donna Davis..................................................Allbreed
Bob Everett..................................................Allbreed
Marion Hall..................................................Allbreed
Lois Jensen..................................................Allbreed
Jim Kilborn..................................................Allbreed
Georgette Wawrzyn............................................Allbreed
Kim Wheelright...............................................Allbreed
EARLYBIRD ENTRY(postmarked by 3/26/87 or before).............$30.00
All other entries.............................................35.00
For Sale/exhibition...........................................15.00
Double cage...................................................10.00
Grooming space................................................10.00
This show will be held in San Jose California at the Convention
Center in downtown. The show hotel is the Holiday Inn on Park Ave.
right next door to the show hall. This will be one of the last
great shows of the show season so plan to attend. What with the
airlines having fare wars right now, rates should be reasonable.
(I just heard United has $99.00 to anywhere in the continental US
right now.)
For more information contact myself or Phil Simmons at (408) 923-8529.
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| 458.12 | Cats at the Dog Show | CLUSTA::TAMIR | | Wed Feb 11 1987 15:01 | 30 |
| After watching the Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show finals on TV
last night, I was thinking about how different cat shows are from
dog shows. At dog shows, professional handlers prance the dogs
around and make them stand in strange poses while the dogs have
their anatomy surveyed by a total stranger. I also got to thinking
about some cats I know (and some I've 'met' through this notesfile)
and how they would be at a doggie-style show.
First of all, my 4 year old would be walking with his stomach flat
on the ground, his tail dragging, and his ears pinned straight back.
He would win "Best Aerodynamic".
Fire, knowing he'd win everything anyhow, would sit back in his
easy chair and let Little Fi run around the ring. He would be too
busy flirting with the girls. And he would win everything!
Ashley Van Grayson, in his smoking jacket and pipe, paws neatly
crossed in front of him as he rested, would hire someone
to do the running around and would grant audiences to the judges.
He'd win "Best Dignity".
Winston would take it all in stride, wondering if this was worth
taking a bath over. Amelia would be wondering if it was worth the
plane trip! Joui would be having a blast playing with all the other
kittens.
And Fickle would have too much dignity to go in the first place!
Perhaps the best part would be seeing us trying to get collars and
leashes on them! We'd win "Best of Nutso"!
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| 458.13 | Best Aerodynamic!!! What a kick!! | PUZZLE::CORDESJA | | Wed Feb 11 1987 15:23 | 5 |
| O.K Mary, how did you do that. I couldn't tell who was writing
the note at first. You got the personalities down to a tee!
I love seeing this kind of note, keep up the good work.:^)
Jo Ann
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| 458.14 | More of the same | PUZZLE::CORDESJA | | Wed Feb 11 1987 15:39 | 15 |
| After thinking it over a minute, I realized that Jesse James
would do exceptionally well at this type of show. Especially if
we renamed "best aerodynamic" to "best Rambo impression". He would
be great in a war movie, crawling on his belly like a snake through
the thick underbrush.
And then there is Monroe "best airhead in show"!
And how about Bailey, "best french speaking cat in show"
and then there is Wimp, "largest cat in show"
Tag-a-long "best shadow"
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| 458.15 | Copley Plaza Cat Show | BUFFER::HOFFMAN | | Wed Feb 11 1987 16:11 | 31 |
| Haven't seen any notes regarding the cat show last Saturday and
Sunday in Boston. Did anyone attend? If so, what did you think?
One thing - boy was it mobbed! and hot! and stinky (in places)!
I also noticed that there weren't many variations of some of the
breeds, e.g. only sable Burmese were there. Two new breeds that
I haven't seen before were the Korat (really sweet, blue like the
Russian blue, smaller, more compact body, heart-shaped head and
big, round green eyes - neat personality), and the Singapura (smallest
pure-bred by the Guiness "Book of World Records", very similar in
coat and color to Abys, Burmese-face (rounder), and very small (only
4-5 lbs. when full grown).
We spent a lot of time in ring #2 (judge was Hazel ___), where the
specialties were judged. Hazel was very nice, and spent time talking
to the audience between judging.
The "guest of honor" was C.H.3, the Fancy Feast cat. He's a beautiful
silver Persian, as you all know from the commercials. They brought
his Chippendale chair, Tiffany lamp, and Waterford goblet along
too! When he's "on", he's a real ham, but the rest of the time
a real "cool" cat. His owner-trainer is from California, and reminds
me of a surfer who grew up!
Would like hearing comments about the show.
J.
P.S. I know those of you who breed Himalayas have talked about
Raindrop's Pink Panther. He was there and is gorgeous!
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| 458.16 | | VAXWRK::SKALTSIS | Deb | Wed Feb 11 1987 16:39 | 5 |
| RE: -1
The human that was carrying C.H.3 on his sholder told me that C.H.3
was a chinchilla persian. Are they the same thing?
Deb
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| 458.17 | Silver of chinchilla, who can tell? | PUZZLE::CORDESJA | | Wed Feb 11 1987 17:22 | 20 |
| Chinchilla persians and shaded silver persians are very hard to
tell apart. Chinchilla's have less silver on them, just a few silver
guard hairs. Shaded silvers have a white undercoat and the individual
hair is tipped in silver. Both have black rimming on their eyes
and they are both beautiful. Don't worry about it if you have trouble
telling them apart, most people have trouble telling them apart
(me included).
I was at a show in Anaheim CA this weekend that was sponsored by
the California Silver Fanciers club and there were about 27 adult silver
persians at the show, some chinchillas and some shaded silvers.
They were gorgeous. There were also about 14 kittens.
The judge that was mentioned previously is probably Hazel Lindstrand.
She judges out here alot also and I enjoy watching her judge. She
is the type of judge that really acts like they enjoy what they
are doing. Some judges really don't act like they are having fun
but Hazel does.
Jo
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| 458.18 | Just thought of a better one | PUZZLE::CORDESJA | | Wed Feb 11 1987 18:04 | 1 |
| Bailey's Irish Cream- "best teeth in show" :^)
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| 458.19 | Chinchilla vs. Silver | BUFFER::HOFFMAN | | Thu Feb 12 1987 15:57 | 5 |
| Deb -
I heard from one person that C.H.3 was a silver persian, but if
his owner said "chinchilla", then that's what he was.
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| 458.20 | No Mistake - Chinchillas ARE Silvers | LAIDBK::SHERRICK | Molly :^) | Thu Feb 12 1987 19:27 | 23 |
| Just to clear up the Chinchilla/Silver confusion a bit:
Chinchilla refers to the DEGREE of silver tipping. A chinchilla
IS a silver persian. Chinchilla Silver, as opposed to Shaded Silver.
The Chinchilla coloring is supposed to have black tipping on the
very tip of each hair. It's almost not noticable except on the
face, and paws. It makes the cat look white, but when you look
closely the hairs are sort of translucent. The Shadeds have obvious
black tipping that can be seen on the back etc. Often, the degree
of tipping is in between shaded and chinchilla and you get a "neither
nor" (as we call them in the fancy). It's possibly to get shadeds
and chinchillas in the same litter, and you can also get silver
tabby kittens, which are darker still than the shadeds, with some
striping. All silvers have green eyes, and "mascara" markings on
the eyelids and nose leather which makes them look like they're
wearing eyeliner. They are GORGEOUS! These colors occur in many
breeds, and I was suprised to learn that they even show up in Maine
Coons (there is another note that discusses silver and golden Maine
Coons) and American Shorthairs. I had originally thought this was
a persian cat color only. If you love the color, but not the
maintenance - it is possible to find in other breeds!
Molly
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