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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

426.0. "DIABETES?" by KOALA::FAMULARO (Joe, ZK02-2/R94, DTN381-2565) Tue Dec 16 1986 13:26

    Looking for experiences of those who may of owned a cat(s) who
    developed diabetes?
    
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426.1I have a diabetic SiameseCOGVAX::HOFFMANMon Dec 22 1986 13:4971
    Joe -
    
    I have a 14-year-old male Siamese who is diabetic.  It appears that
    diabetes in cats is also congenital; however, it is still one of
    the cat diseases that they don't know everything about.  It is very
    hard to regulate a cat.
    
    The symptoms are the same as they are in humans--direct line from
    the water bowl to the pan and/or eating a lot and losing weight.
    If your cat is an indoor cat, purchase some Clinitest strips--those
    are the test strips for diabetics where it checks the various levels
    in the urine, and *try* to catch your cat in the pan.  This is not
    as easy as it sounds, because if they're like Munchkin, you'll get
    a *hairy eyeball* look, as if to say, "Excuse m-e-e-e, what do you
    think you're doing?"  One of the test elements is for sugar, and
    depending on the color the paper turns (like litmus paper), you
    can tell if the sugar level is way off.  If so, call your vet and
    arrange for the cat to go in to be checked.  They do sugar levels,
    kidney function tests, urinalysis, etc., and will try and regulate
    the cat.
    
    Munchkin is on the following schedule:  eats breakfast at 7 a.m.
    and gets his 5 units of insulin (He actually purrs with the shots
    - either he's dumb or he loves us!).  The food comes up before I
    leave for work, and he doesn't get fed until around 6 p.m. or so.
    We usually leave the food down until we go to sleep, but never leave
    the food out all night or all day.  This is very important, because
    they need to be on a schedule which doesn't vary at all, and no
    snacks!  Of course, if you go away overnight or on vacation, you
    need to have someone who can keep the cat on this schedule.  Because
    Munchkin is an indoor cat, we can see how's he's doing from the
    water level in his mug!  My cats only drink out of mugs or glasses--no
    bowls for them.  He has been diabetic since February, and originally
    started out on 3 1/2 units of insulin daily, but it has increased
    to 5 units.  Cats are very hard to regulate, and my vet is very
    surprised that Munch is doing so well.  He does appear to drink
    more at night, and if this continues we will do a blood sugar on
    him at various hours during the night to see where his sugar peaks.
    We may need to give him another shot at 10 p.m. of regular insulin.
    The insulin that he uses now is the long-acting type (N.P.H.), which
    humans use for a 12 to 24-hour period; however, it doesn't seem
    to last as long with cats.  There is another type of insuling on
    the market, PZI, but our vet doesn't seem too impressed with it
    on cats.
    
    I can't stress enough how important it is to get the cat on a schedule
    and keep it there.  If the cat doesn't eat breakfast, which is the
    most important meal for a diabetic, the cat will have an insulin
    reaction, just like humans.  This really takes the *stuffing* out
    of them for about 24 hours.  Munch has has three of these, and they're
    not fun.  You need to get either orange juice and/or honey mixed
    with water into the cat fast, so his sugar level will rise.  They
    have very poor muscle tone for about 6 hours, and just lie around
    looking listless.  
    
    Even though we have 2 cats, and currently are cat-sitting for our
    cat's daughters while my in-laws are away until April, they all
    seem to sense that Munch has to eat first and that there is no food
    during the day or during the night!  One of the daughters is showing
    signs of possible diabetes (drinking more than usual), and we will
    test her when we can catch her in the pan!
    
    I hope this helps.  If you need any more information, you can write
    directly to me.  Be sure that your vet handles diabetics or is in
    close contact with Angell Memorial Hospital's diabetic specialists
    or another excellent teaching insitution like Angell Memorial.
    
    Good luck!
    
    Joan
    
426.2CHAMP2::EPETERSONMon Dec 22 1986 15:1520
    Joe,
    
    I only have one thing to add to what Joan said, but take it for
    what it is worth as I was not the owner of the diabetic cat. 
    
    My syster owned a diabetic cat named Roscoe.  He became diabetic
    at age 8 and lived to the ripe old age of 18.  I had once asked
    her to describe the procedures required to tread a diabetic cat
    (I believed that my cat might also be diabetic).  What she described
    was just about what Joan described with one exception.  She had
    indicated that her doctor had told her to take the test at the litter
    pan every day to tell the cats sugars.  She said, however, that
    it got to the point that she could tell just by Roscoe's behavure
    whether he needed more or less meidcation.  She also said that more
    than one Vet had given old Roscoe up for a gonner, yet he lived
    a good and contented 10 years with the illness.
    
    Hope I was of some small help.
    
    
426.3Thank you...KOALA::FAMULAROJoe, ZK02-2/R94, DTN381-2565Tue Dec 23 1986 09:406
    Thank you Joan and EPETERSON.  The cat that has the problem belongs
    to some close friends of mine.  I am going to pass the information
    along to them.  I am sure that they will appreciate it.  I'll let
    you know how things are progressing for the cat.
    
    Joe
426.4not so rare in older cats!HIGHFI::BRODERICKaka <momcat>Mon Dec 29 1986 15:1611
    i have a diabetic cat, also (see note 138) - she's 16, and doing very
    well - she's on only 1.5 units per day, and our vet never advocated
    testing her urine - she goes for blood checks, though, every 3 months
    - i would stress strongly to any diabetic animal owner to keep handy
    a jar of KARO syrup for emergencies - this is essentially pure liquid
    sugar, and before meagan was fully regulated, when her insulin was too
    high, this saved her life - its a very scary thing (unregulated diabetes)
    but once it's controlled and the routine is established, it's really not
    a problem!  meagan was diagnosed probably 2 years ago...

    karen
426.5two kinds of diabetesVIDEO::TEBAYWed Mar 11 1987 13:508
    Cats can have two kinds of diabetes. One is similiar to maturity
    onset diabetes of humans. This responds well to scheduled feedings
    and insulin. The other kind is called brittle diabetes and is almost
    impossible to regulate as there are swings in the insulin production
    of the cat -thus you have a yo-yo effect. I had one with the
    brittle kind and he only lived four months. He went into coma
    and would not respond. 
    
426.6InfectionsBUFFER::HOFFMANTue Mar 17 1987 13:3737
    Be very careful about any type of infections, i.e. gums, skin, etc.
    Just like humans, when a diabetic cat gets an infection it warrants
    more attention than usual.  Case in point...
    
    Last week, Munchkin went into a severe insulin shock with convulsions!
    Boy, were we concerned, even though I spent over 10 years in the
    medical field and my husband is still in that field - even though
    you have the knowledge, when it's your own it's different...
    
    Munchkin developed non-infectious, bacterial hepatitis - that really
    played havoc with his insulin requirements.  So, he's on amoxicillin
    twice a day for 10 days, and greatly improved.
    
    He was hospitalized during the day for 3 days, came home at night
    because he won't eat for anyone, and came home with his left forearm
    strapped to a board because the IV catheter was left in his arm
    so the vet could reconnect it the following day.  Well, he played
    this for all he was worth!  While his two "slaves" were up, he had
    to be carried everywhere--to the pan, from the pan, etc., the food
    brought to him, and hand-fed!  Of course, when we were sleeping,
    he was up and around with the other cats.  The last day he spent
    in the hospital, he got under the covers to snuggle with me around
    5 a.m. (his usual thing), and every time I started to nod off, he
    poked me in the face with this board!  I honestly thought it was
    a fluke the first time, so I pretended to sleep.  Whomp in the face!!
    
    Just like kids, you know when they're feeling better by their actions,
    but I guess he has us figured out, right?
    
    So, just a note of caution to diabetic cat owners...be careful of
    any behavior changes, more so than in non-diabetic cats, and check
    the cat's teeth and gums regularly because any type of infection
    there can spred up the roots, into the sinuses, etc.
    
    Regards,
    J.