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    Debbie,
    
    Has this already passed, or is it going before the CFA board in
    February???   
    
    I believe it is probably going before the board for vote by the
    clubs.  It will have to be voted upon and passed before actually
    becoming law.  
    
    Depending upon how you feel about this, this might be a good time
    to make sure that if you belong to a CFA cat club you get your opinion
    known.
    
    My personal opinion is that I don't like the idea of recycling cattery
    names.  Since most pedigrees go back 5 generations, which could
    mean more than 5 years in breeding time, it could mean that you
    may have a cattery name in the 5th generation (or less) and then
    have that cattery become non active and have the same cattery name
    again in the first or second generation.  Could make reading and
    understanding pedigrees much more difficult and confusing, especially
    for the novice.
    
    I personally know that many of the cattery names in the 4th and
    5th generations of my pedigrees are no longer active and would hate
    to see those cattery names begin to appear on new pedigrees being
    used by different breeders.
    
    Just curious, what do other breeders think about this??
    
    This is really something to think about.
    
    cin
    

    Cin,
    This will be Presented in February.  The information was presented
    at last months meeting so everyone would be informed and would
    be prepared to discuss the issue further.  Also, this would not
    affect cattery names that were issued prior to the new ruling,
    if it passes.  I can see your point that it could affect
    pedigrees for cattery names that were reissued, although the 
    catteries that we all are familar with now will not be affected.
    It takes awhile to build up a reputation and those that work
    to that end are not likely to slip up and forget to renew their
    cattery name, it would most affect those that didn't pursue it
    beyond one or two years.  I don't think that I would want a used
    name, who wants to worry about what the previous owner might have
    done to its credit or disservice.  Could become a heated issue....
    
    							Debbie
    

    So this would only effect newcomers!!!???   Do you know if there
    is anything in the proposal that would let the person requesting
    a cattery name that has been used before know that it's been used.
    Let's see, that sounds very confusing...let me try to put it another
    way!!
    
    If I requested a cattery name and I got one assigned but it had
    been used by someone else previously and they hadn't renewed it,
    would I be told??
    
    That's still confusing, but do you know what I am asking??
    
    I should think if they were going to give you a cattery name that
    had been used by someone else before they should at least let you
    know that, and maybe also let you know what breed it had been used
    with and maybe how many litters of kittens had been registered with
    that cattery name.
    
    What do you think??
    
    cin
    

    There wasn't anything in the article that I can recall that
    had any procedures as to how they would implement this.  Just
    the overall concept.  If you're interested I'll send you mail
    with what it said or if there is enough interest will put it
    here.  
    
    Like I said this could be a very heated issue and thought others
    would like to know that this was being presented.
    
    						Debbie
    

    I'm real glad to know it's coming up.  I belong to a couple of CFA
    clubs but haven't been real active lately.  You can bet I'll be
    at the next club meetings to let my opinions be known.
    
    Yes, Debbie, Please send me mail if you don't post the proposal
    here.
    
    Thanks
    cin
    

    Debbie,
    
    If you wouldn't mind I would be interested in seeing it also.  It
    might be easier to just enter it in this file.
    
    I am new to the cat fancy, but I am becoming more and more active.
    I recently joined a new club that only has seven members but puts
    on six shows a year.  
    
    I haven't heard anything about this new rule other than in this
    file.  I'd be interested in continued discussion from the more
    experienced breeders on the effects this would have on pedigrees.
    I am one of the novices and pedrigrees are confusing enough already.
    
    JoAnn

    Debbie,
    
    Have you been able to find out more information about this proposal??
    I would be most interested to see a copy of it, I think it would
    be a good idea to post it here.
    
    Thanks
    cin
    

    cin,
    Sorry that I haven't gotten that typed in yet have been out
    all week with the flu.  Will get it in as soon as I can.
    
    					Debbie
    

    Great, thanks Debbie, didn't know if you couldn't find it or not.
    If that was the case I was going to try to come up with a copy through
    a local CFA club.  
    
    Hope you feel better.
    
    cin
    

CATTERY NAMES - PROPOSED POLICY

Mr Dent then submitted to the Board a rough draft proposal relating
to a change in the policy governing the registration of Cattery Names.
He indicated that he would be presenting a formal proposal in February,
but would like to Board to give the matter some thought in the meantime.

"Our current policy provides that for a one time fee, a person may
register a cattery name which we will maintain for an unlimited time
period.  This means that a breeder may use the name as a prefix and/or
suffix for as long as they are involved in purebred cats, whether
that period be 5, 10, or 50 years.  It also means that that name/word
they registered is not available to other breeders.  At the current
time, we are returning almost half of the cattery name applications
received because the applicant has chosen a name/words which duplicate
registered names.

As the number of registered names increases (there are 30,000 now
registered), the problem will only increase.  The change we are proposing
is intended to alleviate this problem by placing unused cattery names
back into the pool of available choices.  Please remember that the
change will not affect cattery names registered prior to its implementation.


Proposed Cattery Name Registration Policy:
1.)  The association will initially register a cattery name for a
period of five years (proposed fee - $30.00; current fee - $30.00).

2.)  Upon the expiration of the initial period and any subsequent
renewal period, a breeder may apply for a 5 year extension of the 
registration.  Applications for renewal will only be accepted at the
expiration of a registration period.  There will be no limit on the
number of renewals/extensions allowed, but not more than one extension
will be permitted per renewal.  Proposed renewal fee is $10.00,
payable at the time of each 5 year renewal.

3.)  It is the breeder's (registrant's) responsibility to apply for
a renewal of the catery name registration.  CFA will send notice 
(maximum of 2) of the impending expiration, but failure on the part
of the registrant to receive these notices will not be the basis for
any future claims which may arise due to the reissuance of the cattery
name to some other party.

4.)  Renewal periods start at the expiration of the prior period and
are for five years.  Fees for renewals are retroactive to the expiration
of the prior paid period but will not exceed the fee for initial cattery 
name registration.

5.)  During the period(s) of registration and for some period thereafter
(i.e. the grace period), CFA will not allow other users of CFA services
the use of a breeder's registered catery name as a "prefix" and/or
"suffix" in the names of their cats.

6.)  The "grace" period is the period after the expiration of a cattery 
name registration during which CFA will disallow the use by and/or
issuance to other breeders of a previously registered cattery name.
The length of a grace period will be determined by the registrant's
level of activity, including the number of litters raised and the 
elapsed time since the last registration.

7.)  At the end of the grace period, the name/word will be available for 
reissuance."


Taken without permission from the December 1986 Cat Fanciers Almanac
page 34.

I was just just browsing through the conference, and I came upon this note.

Was the proposal to re-use cattery names adopted?

Cats aren't the only curious ones :-)

Jill

    Jill,
    
    As far as I know, this did not pass.
    
    Had it come up before the delegation, I am sure that it would have
    been voted down.  I would have voted against it in the clubs that
    I belong to.  It would have been too confusing.  And, individuals
    might have used the opportunity to take advantage of a cattery's
    reputation by acquiring their name, although not being affiliated
    with the previous owner of that name.
    
    Currently, there are discussing two things that have to do with
    registered names for cats.  The current issue of the Almanac discusses
    changing the rules for registering cats to allow for two things.
    1) change the rule that prohibits the use of a color name in a cat's
    registered name if the color is not the color of the cat.  For example,
    you currently couldn't use the word White in your cat's name unless
    the cat was a white.  They want to change that. 2) Currently, you
    cannot name a male cat a female name or a female cat a male name.
    They want to change this too.  Both of these changes make sense
    to me.  A person should be able to name their cats anything that
    they want to.  Also, it will be much less work for the central office,
    and probably save them money too.  They wouldn't have to keep mailing
    back rejected names to the owners.  :^)
    
    Jo