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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

406.0. "Help, whats wrong?" by NIMBUS::OHERN () Wed Nov 26 1986 13:09

    One of our cats, Cinder Blue--nicknamed SIN because of her
    personality--is very very thin.  She is always hungry though, and
    eats with a voracious appetite.  We feed her on demand (usually
    2x a day), and she always cleans her dish.  She has always been 
    very thin.  Our other cat, Tipperary, is very fat.  Tippy eats only
    a fraction of the amount that Sinder eats.  Tippy is definitely
    the dominant cat, but we feed Sinder separately, and I know for
    sure that Sinder, and not Tippy, is eating the food.
    
    Sinder was recently at the vets because of a flea allergy and the vet
    expressed some concern over the cat's weight...and ordered stool tests
    for worms.  These came back negative.  In fact, several years ago
    another vet was concerned about her weight and ran worm tests on
    Sinder, and these tests were also negative.  The only other problems
    that she has (that I know of) are fleas...she is extremely
    allergic, and although we dust her once a week, and you can (almost)
    never find a flea on her, she has 'spells' about twice a year.  At these
    times, she seems to be very uncomfortable until the shot from the
    vet brings her almost instant relief. 
    
    I have several questions:
      
      o Since it appears that the symptoms indicate a tapeworm (voracious
        appetite but no weight gain) and lab results are not always
        positive for worms...What would be wrong with treating the cat
        for tapeworms without a positive lab test?
    
      o What else could be wrong?  Whatever is happening, it appears
        to be progressing.  Although Sinder has a snack before we go to
        bed, she always wakes me up in the mornings to serve her
        breakfast.  Incidently, we feed her canned food at 'mealtimes'
        and we have a self-feeder for dry food, so Sinder snacks between 
        meals.   
    
      o What should I do next?
    
    Thanks in advance for your suggestions!
    
                
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406.1more questions and a suggestionUSHS01::MCALLISTERTARDIS Sales and Service Co.Wed Nov 26 1986 13:4317
    Have you considered having her blood tested.  There are some problems
    that can cause this, the particular one I'd have to consider is
    diabetes.  Are there any other symptoms, excessive water drinking,
    litter box problems, personality changes?
  
    On the tapeworm front.  Tapes are quite easily missed (according
    to the Cornell Newsletter).  However, if you see particles that
    look like rice where your cat likes to sleep, that is indicative
    of tapes.  With the flea problem you described, I'd guess she has
    had tapes at some time; have you ever had her treated for such?
    (Tapeworms and fleas run in a cycle).
    
    You're right to be concerned, I'll check and see what else I can
    come up with.
    
    Dave  
406.2Hope It's Not ThisINK::KALLISSupport Hallowe'enMon Dec 01 1986 09:115
    Also have her checked for cancer.  Karamaneh had two malignancies,
    both removed.  She's still thin, but not as bad.
    
    Steve Kallis, Jr.
    
406.3MAXWEL::BROSNIHANBRIANWed Dec 03 1986 14:057
      I don't know if your cat has lost a little weight or is extremely
    thin, but  I  change  my  cats diet in the cold weather. I give him
    more food than usual because he burns off more calories in the cold 
    weather to keep him warm. Maybe he needs a little fattening up  due
    to the winter?
                   /BB
    
406.4Tapeworms - Yuk!CANVAS::SAUTAThu Dec 04 1986 16:4528
    Both our cats tend to get tapeworms at one point during the year
    and is most likely due to infected fleas.   Fleas are a real problem
    in California, since it never seems to get cold enough to kill them
    off and even with an exterminator and flea dips, our cats always
    seem to get them in the summer.
    
    Anyway, we just treated them with tapeworm medication about 3 weeks
    ago and I've already noticed that they look a little heavier.  Like
    your cat, they've always had good appetites and go through a fair
    amount of water.  We now know what the tapeworm eggs look like,
    so tend to get them to the vets fairly quickly, which has seemed
    to keep the weight loss to a minimum.  The eggs look like teardrop
    shaped rice granules and are a little smaller and darker than rice.
    They are very hard.
    
    Our vet doesn't like to prescribe the med. unless we know for sure
    that they have worms, so our preventative care usually consists
    of battling the flea problem.  The med. consist of 1 to 1 1/2 tablets
    depending on the kittie's weight and does the job with one dose.
    We haven't noticed any side effects at all.  
    
    Tapeworms are pretty disgusting, but at least are easy to get rid
    of!
    
    Good luck,
    
    Lynne
         
406.5Why not?NIMBUS::OHERNFri Dec 05 1986 10:177
    Are there any dangers associated with treating the symptoms without
    having a positive lab test confirming the diagnosis....or, what
    are the dangers associated with giving a cat de-worming medication
    if the cat doesn't have worms?  
    
    I'm inclined to suspect the accuracy of the lab test...the symptoms
    point to worms!
406.6USHS01::MCALLISTERTARDIS Sales and Service Co.Fri Dec 05 1986 16:0410
    worming medicines are, for all practical purposes, poisons that
    are delivered in proper amounts to not harm the animal.  But they
    are still poisons.
    
    If you suspect the results, I'd try another vet.  
    
    (I have given my cats tapeworm shots without being absolutely sure,
    but I still get nervous about it.
    
    Dave
406.7How about trying a different kind of food?DSSDEV::EPPESDignity, always dignityFri Dec 05 1986 17:5117
     Last spring, my Persian, Jasper, got very skinny and his fur got
     really thin for apparently no reason.  He seemed otherwise healthy --
     he had a good appetite, was playful and alert, etc.  I took him to
     the vet and she did a battery of tests on stool, blood, etc.  Nothing.
     She suggested switching to a different kind of food, which I did.
     Now, a few months later, he is huge, hefty, and his fur is amazingly
     thick and silky (in fact, it doesn't really get matted anymore, whereas
     before it would get matted constantly, even though I combed him 
     regularly).  In fact, I may have to put him on a diet!

     We still don't know what the problem was, but it sure seems to have
     been taken care of.  I had been feeding him Tami-Ami, and switched
     to IAMS.  Jasper's montrous now!  But very cuddly...

     So, you might try changing to a different kind of food.  You never know.
     Good luck!
							-- Nina