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Conference misery::feline_v1

Title:Meower Power is Valuing Differences
Notice:FELINE_V1 is moving 1/11/94 5pm PST to MISERY
Moderator:MISERY::VANZUYLEN_RO
Created:Sun Feb 09 1986
Last Modified:Tue Jan 11 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5089
Total number of notes:60366

282.0. "What would you have done?" by VIRTUE::AITEL (Helllllllp Mr. Wizard!) Mon Jul 14 1986 14:18

	We took in a "stray" on my birthday.  Houdini is a white
    Persian, and was completely matted.  I'd never seen a cat this
    bad, but his fur was matted down into a felt-like substance
    about 2 inches thick - it was about the density of felt.  It had
    pulled away from his neck, causing sores, and had gotten wet so
    there were sores under it from the constant moisture.  His ears
    were black with mites and debris inside, and he had ticks.  We took
    him to the vet in the morning for a checkup, and then spent nearly a
    week trimming off his fur.  He spent the entire time either outside
    in our company or in a large indoor-kennel in the basement.  He
    came to us for the groomings, and stayed very close to us when he
    was outside.  Slowly we were able to clip off the matted fur, and
    to treat the sores under it.
    	To make a long story short, Houdini was not a stray.  When
    we got him to the point where he could walk correctly again (the
    fur had matted behind his legs and he couldn't straighten them out),
    Jim let him out to see if he would walk home, and he did.  The
    woman who owns him also owns about 15 other cats, all of whom are
    outdoor cats.  She said that her persians all looked like that at
    the end of the winter, and usually shed their coats during the summer.
    She was angry that we'd clipped him, and denied that he'd been in
    any trouble.  She went as far as to deny that we'd had him for an
    entire week (she said he was at her house eating at a time when I know
    that he was inside OUR house!), and to tell us that our vet (who
    has been favorably reviewed by several FELINE contributors) was
    known to her to be totally incompetant.
    	I really was ready to catnap this cat, except that our female
    cat hated him.  Now I'm sorry that I didn't bring him to the shelter
    right away, since he'd be a great pet for someone who would care
    for him.  Some owners should be treated, just for a week or so,
    with the same amount of neglect that they treat their cats with....
    
    --Louise

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282.1Perhaps the vet would lend a handWOMBAT::TAMIRMon Jul 14 1986 17:1016
    If that were a kid, they'd be a child abuse social service you could
    call, but I wonder if your local animal control officer would be
    willing to investigate this case of what seems to be abuse.  The
    problem I have had with strays and wild cats and animal control
    officers is that cats are considered to be natural preditors and
    the animal control/protection laws do not cover cats.  I know that
    here in Nashua, the animal control officers refuse to intervene
    in any way with the wild cat problem in our neighborhood (brought
    to us by the local friendly egg farm and its barn cats).  But that cat
    sounds like it's being abused.  It might be worth a call...
    
    Then (after reading the previous note) I would have swatted the
    woman across the forehead :^)!!
    
    Mary
    
282.2If You Can Find An Animal LoverINK::KALLISMon Jul 14 1986 17:1713
    If there's an SPCA in the area, report her.  If the opther cats
    are in asboput the same shaope as the one you had nursed, there'll
    be plenty of evidence!
    
    If there _isn't_ an SPCA, try the local newspaper (if vthey have
    a pet editor) -- as long as you don't say anything slanderous or
    libelous.  You could say something like: "There are some cats in
    the neighborhood that _I_ think look a little mistreated.  Why don't
    you have a look and see what you think?"  That leaves it a judgement
    call to the reporter.
    
    Streve Kallis, Jr.
    
282.3STUBBI::REINKEMon Jul 14 1986 17:219
    We get a fair number of both strays and "visiting" cats around
    our place. If a strange cat shows up and seems to want to move in
    with us, I call around the neighborhood first to see if anyone claims
    it. In the one case where someone did we ended up with the cat anyway
    because evertime they let him out he came right back to our house.
    If you are willing to put up with the time it will take for you
    female to get used to Houdini, you might ask the woman if you could
    have him anyway. (Especially if he keeps coming back like ours did.)
    
282.4One MAD Persian owner...KOALA::FAMULAROJoe, ZK02-2/R94, DTN381-2565Tue Jul 15 1986 13:1819
    I own two Persians that need to be groomed at least every other
    day, if not daily.  Anything less than that results in mats forming
    which are at first a great source of discomfort for the cat, and
    then in later stages very painful.  The Persian you described sounded
    like it was in extreme discomfort/pain not only with the matting
    but also with the ear mites.
    
    The woman who owns the cat does not seem to be "playing with a full
    deck", if you know what I mean.  She obviously knows little if nothing
    about the proper care of long haired felines or she gets her kicks
    from watching the animal(s) suffer.
    
    I would encourage you to do what you can to aquire the Persian and give
    it proper vet care and grooming, as well as take steps to correct
    this woman's problem, even if you must go to the authorities.
    
    Please keep us informed.

    
282.5Book her, Lucinda!NACHO::DREWTue Jul 15 1986 16:1113
    Louise,
    
    Since you took the cat to the vet...you do have documented evidence
    that the cat was in severe difficulty. You also mentioned that this
    person (I refuse to call her a 'lady') had about 15 other cats.
    
    If you think its at all feasible, please call the Humane Society.
    There may be something that they can do. (Its also possible that
    there may be a legal limit to the number of cats one can keep in
    a residential dwelling.) This person should not be allowed to 
    continue abusing animals!
    
    -nn
282.6VIRTUE::AITELHelllllllp Mr. Wizard!Tue Jul 15 1986 18:1328
    My only hesitation is that I don't trust this woman, and she
    knows where I live and, more importantly, where *my* cats live.
    She has lied to me and to Jim repeatedly, and almost got
    hysterical when I suggested that perhaps Houdini had been in
    pain from the matting.  Really, she's not playing with a full
    deck.  I'm going back and forth between anguishing over the
    poor cats that she has, and worrying about the damage this
    kook could do if she's provoked.  Hopefully, neither she nor
    her kin work at Dec and read this file!
    
    Unfortunately, taking Houdini in is out of the question due to
    Koshka's reaction to even the smell of him on our clothes.  She
    doesn't normally come up, sniff me, growl, and lash out with her
    claws!  He was in our house for a week and, while Chorniy got
    to the point of wanting to play with him, Koshka's behavior change
    was painful for us, both emotionally and physically.  Besides, the
    woman is not likely to give him up.
    
    By the way, I *did* call the Nashua Humane Society when I found
    Houdini and thought he was a stray, and they mentioned that they'd
    seen cats in that shape who had owners.

    Mike, what does the Nashua Humane Society do in cases like this?
    Are they empowered to make a visit to the house where the problem
    is?  Is there any way that I can make it an anonymous tip? (except
    she'd be likely to know who complained.)

    --Louise
282.7STAR::WALKERWed Jul 16 1986 00:0011
    Please DO call your local Humane Society.  One of the functions
    of most shelters, and I believe the Nashua one, is to investigate
    complaints.  I used to work at the Animal Rescue League, and we
    did investigations (but only could in our "territory").
    
    Do keep us posted!!!
    
    Lisa
    
    P.S.  If Houdini comes back, which I suspect he will, you might
          want to call your shelter for advice at that point.
282.8HOMBRE::DREWWed Jul 16 1986 10:5713
    If Houdini reappears...we could always arrange for him to disappear!
    
    (I normally would be the last person to suggest such a thing...I
    know well the anguish I would feel if one of my pets disappeared...
    but this person is patently abusing her stewardship of these 
    animals...my heart goes out to Houdini and the other cats that
    she is maltreating.)
    
    Keep it in mind, Louise...Snuffs has settled in nicely....so Kismet
    is free to 'train' another cat!
    
    -nn
    
282.9DIFFICULT PROBLEM!!!SOFCON::MCDONOUGHThu Jul 17 1986 16:5626
      It's really astounding that you hear of this kind of thing happening
    so often in this so-called "civilization of ours!! Just a few weeks
    ago the news in Worcester was full of a story about someone who
    had over 40 cats confined inside her house...and the S.P.C.A. had
    to have the majority of them put down due to disease, sores, etc..
    The alleged 'humans' in this case were determined to be "rowing
    with one oar out of the water"...
    
      I'm in total agreement that people who neglect or abuse animals
    to the degree described...and much *less* than the things described...
    are not in control of their minds....
      I realize that there are deep emotions around pet ownership and
    each of the people who 'note' are caring individuals. But I don't
    believe this is the case when matters like this come up. This poor
    woman needs help!!! She would be the first one to say that I'm full
    of baloney, because she probably doesn't recognize her own illness..
    which I think is not unusual. She may not even realize that she's
    harming the animals...no telling what goes on in the mind of one
    not totally in control of their faculties. 
      You might do well to call the S.P.C.A. or the Nashua shelter to
    get some ideas of how to proceed. I definitely understand your concern
    about what this kook might do....maybe they'll put her in a cage...or
    at least a place where she can't harm anything and she'd be safe
    from herself...
      Not an easy problem to solve...but good luck with it!!
    JMCD