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260.1 | wild felines in New England | STUBBI::REINKE | | Wed Jun 04 1986 10:18 | 8 |
| Speaking of panthers did anyone see the recent article about panther
sightings in New England? (I think it was in the Globe.) The conclusion
was that there may well be panthers passing through, but, since
the sightings were so infrequent, there was a probablity of nearly
95% that there is no native breeding population. My husband thought
he saw one at night about a year ago in the woods in Warwick Mass.
At least he saw something big and tawny with a long tail. Does anyone
else have any panther sighting stories?
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260.2 | YEARS AGO..... | FROST::BARBER | | Thu Jun 05 1986 11:38 | 11 |
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Only years ago, when I was younger and growing up in Southern Vermont.
I can remember one night there was something in our garbage can
and when we (parents & kids) investigated, there was a panther (so
my father says) on its hind legs with its head in the barrel.
Of course this was about twenty years ago, (God, has it been that
long). And we grew up in a very isolated area.
donna b.
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260.3 | mountain lion/panther? | MORGAN::BMCCULLOUGH | | Fri Jun 06 1986 16:11 | 6 |
| Does anyone know the difference between a panther and a mountain
lion? Do we have panthers in the New England area? i thought
panthers were black and mountain lions were tan???? I thought
I saw a mountain lion in an apple orchard in Harvard, Mass.
about 15 years ago when i was riding horse back on day. It moved
so fast that it was hard to tell for sure.
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260.4 | Sort Of | INK::KALLIS | | Fri Jun 06 1986 16:54 | 14 |
| Re .3:
A true panther is a melanistic leopard and is native to Africa and
has only a very distant relationship to the North American feline.
However, in the days of the American pioneers, people were a lot
less discriminating and called the largish cat over here buy a lot
of names. Among them were "Mountain Lion," "Panther," "Cougar,"
and "Painter" (corruption of "panther").
After all, we call almost all felines "cats" ...
Steve Kallis, Jr.
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260.5 | More names for the cougar | TLE::SAVAGE | Neil, @Spit Brook | Sat Jun 07 1986 15:51 | 12 |
| Re: 3,4:
Not to mention "catamount" and "puma." The scientific name for this
'cat of many names' Felis concolor.
Here are two reasons eaterners won't see many of them: 1) a 2300 acre
area of wilderness has the carrying capacity of just one cougar, 2) in
its habitat, a cougar can be almost next to you without your realizing
it is there. [For whatever reason, cougars have been known to stalk
human vistors for miles, without harming them or revealing its
presence.]
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260.6 | signs of puma | STUBBI::REINKE | | Mon Jun 09 1986 17:48 | 6 |
| The article I read - Globe SciTech section a few weeks ago compared
cat sign in Florida where there are known breeding populations.
They concluded that when breeding poplations are present scats can
be found. Since searchers in New England have not found scat (fecal
material) they concluded that the reported sightings were of transitory
animals.
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260.7 | What do you suppose was on this cat's mind? | TLE::SAVAGE | Neil, @Spit Brook | Mon Oct 20 1986 10:22 | 42 |
| Associated Press Mon 20-OCT-1986 06:21 Cougar Attack
Boy, 6, Mauled by Cougar in Park Where Earlier Attack Occurred
SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO, Calif. (AP) - A 6-year-old boy was mauled by a
cougar that snatched him from a hiking trail and took his head in its
jaws before being scared off by the boy's knife-wielding father, the
father said.
Justin Mellon of Huntington Beach, the second child attacked by a
cougar this year in Ronald W. Caspers Wilderness Park, was in
satisfactory condition early today after being attacked on Sunday. "He
never did cry that entire time," said Justin's father, Timothy Mellon,
28. "He just fought that mountain lion, which had to weigh at least 150
pounds."
About 200 people were evacuated from the Orange County park on Sunday
afternoon while rangers and hunters stalked the animal. They failed to
find the cat and planned to return at dawn today, said Tim Miller, a
parks official.
Justin suffered lacerations on his head, arms and chest, said nursing
supervisor Theresa Castillo at Mission Community Hospital in Mission
Viejo.
Mellon said Justin was hiking with a group of children and adults. "The
children ran ahead of us about 15 yards and around a curve," he said.
"You could hear laughing. Then all of a sudden it turned into screams."
Mellon said he pulled out a knife and ran to help his son. "Right
before I got to it, (the lion) released him," Mellon said.
The park was the site of the state's first recorded cougar attack in 77
years when a cat mauled 5-year-old Laura Michele Small of El Toro on
March 23. The girl suffered serious head injuries.
Laura's parents last month filed a $28 million lawsuit in Orange County
Superior Court against the county, the state and the National Audubon
Society contending that they should have been warned of the danger of
cougar attacks. "We get sightings almost every day; that's no secret,"
said Tony Gimbrone, parks district supervisor. Warning signs were
posted around the park after the attack on Laura.
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260.8 | Children as prey items? I'm skeptical. | TLE::SAVAGE | Neil, @Spit Brook | Thu Oct 30 1986 09:20 | 54 |
| Associated Press Wed 29-OCT-1986 19:11 Cougar Attacks
Restrict Use of Park Where Cougars Attacked Children
SANTA ANA, Calif. (AP) - The Orange County Board of Supervisors on
Wednesday barred children from hiking trails and campgrounds in a
wilderness park where cougars attacked two youngsters earlier this
year. Children will be allowed in picnic areas in the Ronald W. Caspers
Wilderness Park, but only if accompanied by adults, the supervisors
decided.
Adults will be required to travel in groups of two or more when hiking
the trails in the park, in the Santa Ana Mountains 60 miles southeast
of Los Angeles. They also will be required to get a free permit, giving
rangers a chance to warn them of the cougars.
The supervisors also endorsed a recommendation from the county
Environmental Management Agency to keep the park closed until Jan. 2
while rangers and wildlife biologists try to count and study the
behavior of the park's population of cougars, also called mountain
lions or pumas.
The park, visited by an estimated 5,000 people a month, was the scene
of the state's first mountain lion attack in decades: the March 23
mauling of 5-year-old Laura Michelle Small of El Toro. Laura survived
the attack, but remains partially paralyzed and blind in one eye.
On Oct. 19, 6-year-old Justin Mellon of Huntington beach was dragged
from a trail by a cougar that took his head in its jaws. He is
recovering from injuries that required 100 stitches to repair.
Experts say the mountain lions view children as prey because of their
high-pitched voices and jerky movements. "They see a kid as a big, fat
rabbit," Gary Bogue said. "If you go to the zoo with your kids, watch
the eyes of the leopards," said Bogue, who as curator of Alexander
Lindsey Junior Museum in Walnut Creek has raised mountain lions from
cubs. "They're staring at the kids."
Bogue said the big cats may be just naturally reacting to the size,
voices and movements of small children. A domesticated mountain lion
seeing a child will act much as a housecat does when it spots a mouse,
Bogue said. It will crouch as if in preparation for a spring and watch
intently.
Lee Fitzhugh, a mountain lion specialist at the University of
California at Davis, said the lions may react to high-pitched noises
and jerky movements of children. Studies show predatory cats are
stimulated to attack by certain movements, particularly by objects or
animals darting across their line of sight or away from them.
An adult has a good chance of stopping an attack, Fitzhugh said, by
standing his or her ground and shouting. Such behavior isn't natural to
prey species he said, adding that studies show cats are frightened by
threats from above, as from a person standing over them.
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260.9 | more cougar attack details | LAIDBK::SHERRICK | Molly :^) | Thu Oct 30 1986 19:23 | 20 |
| I'm out here in Orange county not too far from where these attacks
happened. That's an interesting clipping. A couple of points of
interest that I wanted to add (we got lots more info, locally -
too much really):
The papers here published a photo that was taken during one family's
outing the day before the second attack (the one in oct.). In the
photo is a woman with her arm around her daughter, standing in front
of a brush/bush area on one of the nature trails. You can ver plainly
see a/the cougar standing at the very edge of the brush (about 15
feet behind them) looking out at them. Interesting.
Also, re: the clipping's last paragraph "An adult has a good chance
of stopping an attack,..."
It just so happens that the second attack was stopped by the little
boy's father, when the father rushed at the cougar with a knife
in his hand. I guess the cougar didn't want to deal with the
challenge. He (the cougar) just dropped the boy, and ran off into
the bushes.
Molly
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260.10 | No "attack" | TLE::SAVAGE | Neil, @Spit Brook | Fri Oct 31 1986 09:36 | 19 |
| Re: .8 and .9:
I submit that the cougars behavior does not constitue an "attack"
of any kind. The big cat is just fascinated/confused by the presence
of an intriguing being (the small child). This does not mean that
these animals are not dangerous, just that we shouldn't interpret
their behavior as decidedly aggressive; if such an animal diliberately
set out to harm someone, that person would be instantly dead --
adult or child.
Re: photo with cat in background: Extraordinary! These animals have
been reported to track hikers for miles (out of sheer curiosity?).
Because of the animal's stealth, the people usually never realize
they've been followed; afterward, park rangers spot the tracks.
To sum up, cougars are not equiped by instinct to know what people
are, or what to do about their presence. I submit that the "prey"
theory is bogus.
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260.11 | Semantics | LAIDBK::SHERRICK | Molly :^) | Mon Nov 03 1986 10:58 | 17 |
| O.K. So the cougar's behavior does not constitute an attack on the
little girl or boy. I think you're arguing semantics, and, so what?
If the news report had said that a cougar in the park had been
fascinated/confused with the presence of small children, and had
nearly mauled a couple of young children to death in the course
of investigating them, the readers would have been very confused.
I think it's perfectly resonable to label these incidents as 'attacks'.
The cougars motivation for 'attacking' is of interest to those who
are studying such behavior, not the general public. The point of
the news in this case is to report an incident that may have bearing
on the readers level of awareness about 'safety' in wildlife preserves,
or wild parks. It would hardly be likely to help people protect
their children if you warned them about possible investigations
by mountain lions, that 'could be harmful' to one's health....
Anyway enough said. Let's just hope it doesn't happen to another
child, whatever the cougar's purpose.
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260.12 | | INK::KALLIS | Support Hallowe'en | Tue Nov 04 1986 13:51 | 19 |
| Re last few:
Cougars are notoriously afraid of adult humans, but children are
another matter.
However: one thing that nearly brings me to a boil is the "tourist
syndrome"; that is, if you're a tourist, you're immune from harm.
The park rangers at Yellowstone Park talk themselves hoarse warning
people against feeding the bears, and people feed the bears anyway.
If _I_ saw a cougar, no matter how much I love felines (and I do,
very much), I'd be wary. If I had children, I'd be doubly so for
their sakes.
Don't penalize big cats for being cats, but don't assume that just
because they're cats that they shouldn't be respected as possible
maulers by visitors top their territory.
Steve Kallis, Jr.
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260.13 | Panther in Vermont? | TLE::SAVAGE | Neil, @Spit Brook | Mon Jan 12 1987 12:55 | 23 |
| Re: .1,.2 and .6:
My major professor at Middlebury College has a 3-page article in
"Vermont Natural History" (a publication of the Vermont Institute of
Natural Science, Woodstock VT 05091) with the title as shown in the
angle brackets. It details the history of courgar encounters in
Vermont, from the mid 19th century to July, 1986.
If anyone is interested in this subject, I can make photocopies
from my reprint. Or you can request a reprint from the author:
Dr. Harold B. Hitchcock
1 Locust Lane
Middlebury VT 05753
I'd be interested to know if any of you know of any other sightings of
this elusive Eastern subspecies of the mountain lion (Felis concolor
couguar). The animal is on both the Federal and Vermont list of
endangered mammals and cannot be legally taken (hence no prospect
for new museum specimens).
[Are there any former members of the now defunct "Irrepressible
and Uncompromising Order of Panthers" among us? :-)]
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260.14 | Powerful Pussycats? | NATASH::AIKEN | Try to relax and enjoy the CRISIS | Mon Jan 12 1987 13:35 | 9 |
| For another article, contact Yankee Publications in Dublin, NH.
Yankee ran a story a few years ago about panther sightings in NE. They
are indeed elusive and sightings are quite rare in the Norteast.
But the big cats are here.
Dick_who_used_to_handle_big_cats_in_the_zoo.
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