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  As a matter of fact, I have.  They are similar in appearance to a Russian
Blue.  The biggest physical difference is the shape of the head.  The korat
has a rather "heart-shaped" head with large green eyes.  (For the benefit
of anyone who has never heard of a Russian Blue, korats and RBs have a 
beautiful, thick gray-blue coat with silver tips.)
                                   
   They are a relatively new breed.  They were recognized in the US in 1975
and later in Autralia and New Zealand and a few other places.  This means
that they are still fairly rare (and thus probably quite expensive).  They
are as or more rare than Egyptian Maus and the 8 week old EM kitten I saw
last Jan was going for $200.  You might also have to wait a while to get
a kitten.  However, it sounds like they might be worth the wait.

   Here's what "Cats: Guide to International Pedigree Cats" has to say about
the Korat.

   The summary says

Good Points
   o Pretty
   o Quiet
   o Sweet and gentle
   o Intelligent
   o Not destructive
   o Good with other animals

Take Heed
   o Does not like loud or sudden noises
      
    "The Korat has been described as having 'busy charm'.  It loves to be
petted,is smart and likes energetic games.  It dislikes sudden noises, however,
and so would be best suited to a quiet, well-ordered household, rather than
a mad house of boisterous children.
     The korat likes quick, gentle people and gets very attached to its owner.
It will get on well with other breeds, but prefers its own breed.  It will
also settle happily with a docile dog, provided it is introduced gently.
 The Korat is not too talkative, except when 'calling' [in heat], and would
make an ideal pet for someone wanting a sweet, loving, quiet companion.
     However, it is still a rare breed, and you may have to wait for a kitten.
 At present there are more in the US than elsewhere but they are now being
bred in the United Kingdom, Canada, South AFrica, Australia, and New Zealand
and are becoming popular."

     The caption on the picture says "A Korat in a playful mood.  These pretty
blue cats with green eyes are gentle, quiet, sweet and companionable.  A
joy to own."
    
     In the section on origin and history...
      
     "In the town of Korat [in Thailand], these cats are known as Si-Sawat,
which means 'good fortune'.  In Thailand, it is often called ' the cloud
colored cat with eyes the colour of young rice'....They are prized in their
homeland, and a pair given to a bride means a fortunate, prosperous and happy
marriage...."

     In the section on Breeding...

     "When a kitten is sold, the new owner has to promise to neuter a kitten
at the age of six months, or to mate it only to another Korat.  This is to
keep the breed as pure as it is, without contamination from other breeds...."

     I only have the addresses of Three breeders.  One in Georgia, one in
California and one in Delaware.  The one in Delaware is :
     Jaltari Korats.  Taylor
                      2610 Cayuga Rd.
                      Wilmington, De.  19810
                      (203) 875-8421

     You might also try Korat Cat Fanciers Association.  For kitten inquiries,
contact Esther Epstein
        14 West Avenue
        Brockton, Ma, 02401


Hope this helps.

tlh

	Hope it helps ?  How modest.

Thanx billions.

Michael

    Since this file was written to about 4 years ago, I was wondering if
    anyone knew of any breeders on the east coast? Preferably in the
    Washington DC/Baltimore area? The only listing I've been able to find
    is in Atlanta. I heard rumors that there was one in Delaware. My
    husband FINALLY has agreed to getting another cat (making my 2 other
    babies REAL excited!) and he likes Korats.
    
    Any help is appreciated!
    
    Cheryl (Shanti and Charlie)

    I think Holly Taylor is breeding Korats - Holly, are you there?
    
    E.T.

    I went to a cat show this weekend and there was one Korat there.
    Beautiful little guy! Anyhow, the woman is not a breeder, but did have
    kittens. She said she would only sell them as alters AND that she
    wouldn't give them up till them were 6 or 7 months old! Is this normal?
    Or is this person just doing this on her own?
    
    Again, does anyone know of any breeders of Korats? I'm still looking...
    
    Cheryl

    What I find unusual is that a person that has kittens for sale
    saying that she is not a breeder.  Maybe Cin or Jo will explain
    why she will only sell them as alters.  The reason she is waiting
    for them to be 6 or 7 months old is so she can see exactly how
    they are developing and be more sure of the quality.  They may
    be a late maturing line and need 6 or 7 months to show their
    characteristics, be they show or pet.  I know a breeder that will
    only sell pets, whether they are pet quality or show quality.  I
    think her reasoning is that she doesn't want anyone outside of a
    few people breeding from her line.  Actually, I know a few people
    that do that.  Some folks want their lines out and about on pedigrees,
    some don't.  
    
    
    Which show
    
    As to if the person is doing her own thing?  
    What's the cattery name or the person's name?
    Are her cats registered?
    Is her cattery registered?
    Is her breeding pair registered?

    
    
    	Elaine...
    
    	Holly isn't at DSG anymore...I don't know what her new DTN
    	is but she can be reached via VAXmail at WMOIS::H_TAYLOR.
    	Just a point of interest in case this person does want to 
    	contact her.  =)
    
    	JJ

    Holly has two beautiful Korats that she's planning on breeding soon.
    
    cin
    

    Hi everyone.  
    
    First, thank you Cin for pointing me to this note.  With the new job,
    I've been QUITE busy.
    
    My instincts are telling me not to deal with this Korat breeder.  There
    are a few things that JUST don't seem right.  Do you know the cattery
    name?  I think the main thing that I don't like about it is that she
    says that she isn't a breeder, but she has kittens?  Sounds pretty
    fishy to me.
    
    I can understand her reasoning about having them spayed or neutered. 
    In buying a Korat, you must sign the Korat Association document.  This
    document says that you will not breed your cat with any other breed of
    cat and represent it as a Korat, that you will NEVER have the cat
    declawed, and if the cat is sold as a pet, that you will have
    the cat spayed or neutered at the appropriate time, after which you
    will receive the papers for the cat.  
    
    
    If you are interested in a Korat, let me know.  I can put you in touch
    with a breeder that probably has kittens now.  If you'd like to wait
    for one of mine, It will probably be about 7-8 months before you can
    bring one home.  I am in the process of TRYING to find a male where I
    won't have to ship my baby across the country!  It is EXTREMELY
    difficult having a minority breed and not having a place to keep a male
    cat.  )-:
    
    Holly
    

    Oh yeah, my new DTN is 241-4044.
    
    Holly
    

perhaps the woman with the kittens had an "accidental" breeding and wants
to be SURE the kittens will be pets only...hence the wait until the kittens
are old enough to be spayed or neutered before placing them in a home.  It
sounds as if she is very careful to avoid undesirable breedings....I wish
more people were as conscientious, myself.  She may choose to not call
herself a breeder because she does not wish to breed kittens in the
future.  If her kittens are healthy, her blood lines can be traced, and
the kittens are raised "under foot" in the home and handled by the
resident humans, they should be fine as pets....and the woman has the
assurance that there will be no "mistake" breedings of the kittens.

I didn't get Hannah until she was 7 months old and she is the most
affectionate of my resident cats... I worked very hard socializing
Nicholas as a baby and then found him a home for awhile - but when
I got him back, he was feral and he has never come around....... I don't
think you have to get a kitten as a baby to have a loving pet...you
just have to get a kitten that is bright enough to learn to not fear
you.

    Thanks for all the replies! We asked the woman for her card, and she
    said she didn't have one because she wasn't a breeder. She said her
    cats come from a championship bloodline -- I don't remember the name of
    her cat, though. (She's from Delaware). She said she doesn't let her
    kittens go early because she feels they're too young at 4-5 months. Not
    that I want to have a Korat to breed (we'd probably want an alter) but
    we'd like to at LEAST not be told: "NO! Absolutely NOT!" (exact quote).
    
    I think I pretty much decided that I didn't want any of her kittens,
    that's why I've been trying to find someone in this notesfile to point
    me in the right direction! We do want a cat to show, but we also would
    LOVE to have a Korat. (I'll be contacting Holly VERY soon!)
    
    Thanks so VERY much!
    Cheryl (Charlie and Shanti)
    

    Gee, Holly, I didn't think Korats were a minority breed.  Seemed to be
    so many of them (God they are beautiful and reminded me of "miniature"
    mountain lions) at the Salem, NH cat show last year.
    
    Pat, D.P., Thai (something like a "mini" mountain lion), Holly, Buffy,
    	 Midnight (& Cookie). :-)
    

    Yes, Korats are DEFINITELY a minority breed.  As of now, I am the only
    breeder in New England that belongs to the Korat Cat Fanciers
    Association.  This is a very reputable club.  As I said in a previous
    note (I think), all of our cats background MUST be tracable back to
    thialand.  Otherwise, they are not considered a true Korat and they
    cannot be shown in many associations.  For example, in TICA, you can
    show a cat for the first time without the papers (as long as the papers
    are "pending").  That is, any breed EXCEPT for the Korat.  This is not
    TICA's doing, it's the Korat Cat Fanciers.  
    
    This is why I don't understand about this woman.  It could be possible
    that these are not pure Korats (one could be cross bred with a russian
    or a blue oriental).  
    
    I would LOVE to have seen the Salem NH show last year.  What
    association was it???  Are they going to have it again this year??
    
    RE: a few back.  Getting a kitten at 8 months old.
    
    8 months is QUITE late to get a Korat.  Korats have different
    personalities compared to other cats.  Basic rule that Korat breeders
    tell people when they buy kittens is, "Secure everything!  Even if you
    don't think that they can get into it, believe me they can!  AND, if
    there's something you don't want them to do, teach them when they're
    young!  Otherwise, you'll never break them of it!"
    
    Korats are definitely a beautiful cat.  Their elegance and grace is
    absolutely spectacular.  But the thing that I like most about them is
    the way that they attach themselves to one person.  It's truely special
    to be "owned" by a Korat. (-:
    
    Holly
    

    Re. Salem show affiliation and whether there will be another show there
    this year, maybe Nancy can enlighten us?  I think it was a CFA show
    last year; left my flyers home that I picked up there.  That was my
    very first cat show to attend, and first time seeing some of those
    exotic breeds.
    

    Salem, NH, CFA show is Feb. 24th and 25th at the Salem High School.
    
    Holly, do you ever show CFA?
    
    I'll be in Salem with Murdock.  Who else is going?
    

    I'll be there with Lily. 
    
    Anyone else?

    I'll have Snidley Whiplash at Salem!
    
    

    Oh Cin, you actually put it writing!  Lucky thing he is big enough
    to carry that whole handle !!!

    I will be there with Pookies list of demands for "new toys".. and to
    replace the cat-tease I broke, and  to kitty kat "birthday present
    shopping , both Pookie and Happy have birthday's next month.. and
    of course to buy Precious toys too.. we do big present, little present
    in my house, on Pookie's birthday, Happy  and Precious get "little
    presents", on Happys birthday, Pookie and Precious get "little
    presents", and come Precious' birthday , Pookie and Happy get 
    "little presents, now remember these are additonal/over and above
    the list of"demands/requests that Pookie and Happy make".. and Precious
    is being taught  about  new toys vs regular  toys, vs "presents..
    and  she is learning quite rapidly ,, I might add.. it would
    appear that HRH  is a great teacher!!
     Last nite I bought their Valentine's.. tee-hee.. and  they
     bought their Daddy's Valentine.. tee-hee.. I gave Pookie
    the reciept.. currently she is "auditing the purchase, she has
    assured me that "the check will be forthcoming.."
     Cin, I can't wait to see Snidley again.. 
      So, all, when  you see a lady carrying tons of bags.. you will
    know it is Moi..
    Regards
    Kate

    I love that name!  May have to borrow it in the S year, let's see,
    that would be 1995.  What color is he?
    
    Jo

    PS. I think that Linda Sobek is going and taking Magic and Mistral
    and Nancy Jenkins is going and taking Marrekech.
    
    Jo

    
    Directions to Salem High School are in 1093.146.  Could someone add the
    directions from Nashua, please?  There are several people in this area
    that I'm notifying about the show, but I'll be darned if I know how to
    get there from here! :^}
    
    Sandy, who was never good at directions...
    

    Sure, Jo, you can borrow the name!!!  Snidley is a black and white
    Exotic...he's got an all black face with just a perfect white
    moustache and all white whiskers.  
    
    

    Good Lord, Jo. Don't encourage her!!!!  That poor baby boy !
    
    E.T._who_was_lucky_to_get_a_cat_named_Lily !!

    I think Cin and I are two of a kind when it comes to naming cats!
    Many a friend of mine has groaned when they heard what I named some
    of my cats.  To be quite honest, Cin and I have been helping each
    other come up with some of these names via E-mail.  :^)
    
    Jo (who wanted Cin to name the white boy, Play That Funky Music
    White Boy!) :^D
    
    

    
    Last weekend, Andy was telling me about a legendary Scottish witch
    named 'Hairy Agnes' - now I want to get another cat just to use the
    name :^}
    
    (Apologies to anyone reading named Agnes, of course.)
    
    

    ah, that explains it!!!!!!!!!!  You two are a piece of work!

    re: .24
    
    Does she have to give the name back when she is finished
    "borrowing" it?  
    
    	:-)

     re:26
     I like that name.. Cin we could have got him a boom box, and
    introduced him to Cousin Happy.. heh-heh.. she could have taught him
    to boogie.. I can see it all now.. Happy's dance studio,,
    Pookie in the next room teaching "Pookie Lessions" to Precious,
    as the little white exotic comes for his lesson.. Dressed in
    musical duds.. heh-heh.. and Precious saying.. I do not want
    to learn about this stuff to day.. I want to go and learn to
    boogie...right now!!!!!!,,
    Kate.. who is losing ground fast here..

    Kate,
    
    I named the white boy Cattyshack's Dirty White Boy....we nicknamed him
    DWeeBer...Snidley is Precious' litter brother!!!
    
    cin
    

    Cin, I absolutely love it.. heh-heh..  I am sure that he would do quite
    well in Happy's dance class.. hmmm. I think I have that record some
    place.. dirty white boy), although I suspect that it is Happy's
    record collection.. (grin).. Cin  weren't you going to name
    someone  Formal Attire???..BTW did the pictures arrrive yet,
    Pookie was asking me this morning..  tee-hee.. she also
    reminded me to get more film..I should get some pixs soon,,
    I especially want to get one of Happy , she is still
    wearing her bow!!!!!!!!,, raise the flag, and mark the calendar..
    it has been 2 weeks since her grooming appt, which also
    means that Precious is enjoying her "newfound carreer of trying
    to get that BOW..she has her own, but she prefers Happys, not
    Pookies..!!! I think we know better tee-hee..
     Gee Cin, didn't the Snidley in the cartoons have a hat  as well..
    we should get him one.. it would be tooooooo cute..., think about
    this Snidley in the ring with his hat, and DWeeBer in the ring
    with the Dity white boy playing.. and him  Dancing away..I  dance
    around the house with Happy.. and Precious.. Pookie does not find
    that Amusing as you well might imagine, Cin.. tee-hee..
    Kate
    

    Yup, Kate, Snidley was going to be Formal Attire, but Snidley seemed to
    fit him much better.  I'll have to wait for another black and white cat
    that's a little more sophisticated to be named Formal Attire.  I guess
    you can't expect much when your mom's name is Silly Girl!!!  ;-)
    
    Got the pics of precious....boy, I almost forgot how little she was!!!
    
    cin
    

    She  was sooooo little 1 lb 1 oz.. so cute,,,, as you can see from
    the photos "DADDY" is beside himself.. it is sooooooo funny...
    she has him wrapped around her little paw... Did you enjoy
    seeing Happy in her Christmas bow.. one of them at least,
    she had one on her head,, but that ended up "missing".
    and of course, HRH still photographs quite well..to
    coin a phrase.. Harumph,,, where is thr "royal photographer"..
    I can't wait for you to come and visit, Precious is looking more
    and more like her Dad.(feline dad.. heh-heh) I am trying
    to get a "family portrait done". Pookie on side, Happy on the other
    side and Precious in the middle.. "DADDY" keeps asking  me if I have
    done that yet,, I reply.. I am trying.. he keeps saying, what is the
    problem..  OH No Problem dear, it is just that Happy and Precious
    keep walking off..either together, or one chasing the other, then
    Pookie decides to  go back to the waterbed and snooze, of course 
    this after I get some pretty baleful looks.. like.. when you
    can get those 2 to BEHAVE.. let me know.. Harumph..you are interrutping
    my nap..and I am not sitting next to Happy...!!!! tee-hee.. so
    when are you coming to visit us Auntie!!!!
    Kate