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Conference lassie::ucx

Title:DEC TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS
Notice:Note 2-SSB Kits, 3-FT Kits, 4-Patch Info, 7-QAR System
Moderator:ucxaxp.ucx.lkg.dec.com::TIBBERT
Created:Thu Nov 17 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5568
Total number of notes:21492

5417.0. "UCX has Delta Time Issue ?" by TKOVOA::MATSUNO_R () Mon Apr 07 1997 06:43

I heard from MCS person that UCX has a OpenVMS Delta Time problem for RPC and
NFS. However I don't find any information in this notesfile.

Do you have any information ? (Of course, I hope I have a uncorrect 
information. Even though it's ture, we can not provide UCX to all
customers before 19-MAY.)

Ryouzo
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5417.1CGOOA::OWONGSKIWI in Canada (VAO)Tue Apr 08 1997 01:596
    I'm not sure about the components you talk about but
    www.openvms.digital.com talks about DCE and DECthreads as well as
    applications that call some of the LIB$ routines.  Check out that
    location if you haven't already.
    
    	Owen.
5417.2check this oneVIRGIN::BASSITue Apr 08 1997 07:2110
  Hi Ryouzo,

  try to check entry 5007.*, maybe that's what you are looking for.

  Best regards.


    Gianbattista
                 
5417.3Situation in detailTKOVOA::MATSUNO_RTue Apr 08 1997 08:0825
Hi all, thank you for information.

I had a little more information from MCS person. He found the just Delta Time
problem coding on RPC/XDR source of UCX. And he contacted to the programmer 
of this code, then he received from that programmer he had known this issue 
and he would provided ECO.(I have a mail, but I don't have approval of going 
public.)

However I got a another mail between Japanese Engineering Group(Localization)
and UCX Project Team. In the mail, UCX team don't know any Delta Time issue
on UCX.

We were confused. Also, some person talked to several sales person about this 
situation. I have to tell the story of UCX and Delta Time to our sales 
person.

I'd like to know 2 points.

(1) UCX has a Delta Time issue or not ?

(2) If there exists, when ECO is available ? Of course, we need the previous
    UCX ECO.

Ryouzo
5417.4Stand back or ... or ... I'll go public!UCXAXP::GEMIGNANITue Apr 08 1997 19:322
    
    I know of the problem and will be providing an ECO.
5417.5One questionTKOVOA::MATSUNO_RTue Apr 08 1997 21:1318
>>                  <<< UCXAXP::GEMIGNANI �ˤ��Ρ��� 5417.4 >>>
>>                 -< Stand back or ... or ... I'll go public! >-
>>
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>>    I know of the problem and will be providing an ECO.

Thank you for your reply. I'd like to know one point at this time.

	What thing does this problem cause ? All applications using RPC may
	stop suddenly on 19-MAY. Or there may be several troubles, but slight
	damege.

	My point is whether we have to provide the patch of Delta Time to all
	customers using UCX or we can specify who will need the patch.

I will appreciate for your reply.

Ryouzo
5417.6LASSIE::GEMIGNANIThu Apr 10 1997 19:3223
    Actually, it's not what you would think.
    
    The code to do time determination (a local `gettimeofday()' routine) is
    actually in error.  The resulting time [using LIB$SUB_TIMES()] is a
    delta time, and is therefore a large value (being an otherwise negative
    number).
    
    The time value is used for unix authentication, by placing tv_sec into
    the authentication time field.  This is not significant, first of all,
    because the time in the RPC source does not look like it is being
    adjusted for GMT, as one would expect.  Secondly, there has never been
    a problem with this code and we (in UCX), never check this field
    anywhere (because it's not in GMT).
    
    The time also appears to be used to generate a unique XID in the TCP,
    UDP and PMAP code.  It's meant as a `salt' for a `reasonably random'
    number.  This means that it's not an issue, since there doesn't appear
    to be guard code to guarantee that it is unique.
    
    			AND, IN SUMMARY ...
    
    In my opinion, there should be no difference and it doesn't appear that
    RPC is going to be vicimized in any way by this mishap.