[Search for users] [Overall Top Noters] [List of all Conferences] [Download this site]

Conference lassie::ucx

Title:DEC TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS
Notice:Note 2-SSB Kits, 3-FT Kits, 4-Patch Info, 7-QAR System
Moderator:ucxaxp.ucx.lkg.dec.com::TIBBERT
Created:Thu Nov 17 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5568
Total number of notes:21492

5398.0. "UCX/SMTP/VMSMAIL/HTML file...." by VAXRIO::MAURO () Tue Apr 01 1997 15:48

    Hi,
    
    before to go deeper in my problem, I have an unique question that
    depending the answer I get can tell me if what the customer wants is
    possible or not.
    
    The environment is:
    
    OpenVMS v6.2, UCX 4.1, SMTP, POP3 and NETSCAPE in the client.
    
    Do I'm able to send a HTML text file, thru VMSMAIL/SMTP, for an internet
    e-mail where the client uses NETSCAPE mail and this message to be
    interpreted like HTML commands and not a plain text by the brownser?
    
    If yes, let known how.
    
    Thanks, Mauro.
    
    P.S.: I decided to put this question over here, because I think it
    related to SMTP/MIME and POP. I apologize if I'm wrong.
T.RTitleUserPersonal
Name
DateLines
5398.1Yes + read STARS article "UCX POP Setup Mime ..."PRSSOS::DIETZPierre-Etienne DIETZ, Support/FranceWed Apr 02 1997 04:39177
re: 5398.0 by VAXRIO::MAURO
>    OpenVMS v6.2, UCX 4.1, SMTP, POP3 and NETSCAPE in the client.
>    Am I able to send a HTML text file, thru VMSMAIL/SMTP, for an internet
>    e-mail where the client uses NETSCAPE mail and this message to be
>    interpreted like HTML commands and not a plain text by the brownser?

	Hi Mauro,

I guess that what you need works: I have just done a 1 minute test...
Hope that will help,
regards,
Pierre-Etienne

  My PC (W95)                               My VMS Server: prssos.evt.dec.com
  NETSCAPE                                  AlphaVMS 7.1 
    Netscape Mail: Mail gateway = prssos    UCX V4.1 ECO 3
                                            UCX POP3 Server
    
Test:
1.On NETSCAPE, display the IPMTWWW page,
  at (example)
  http://grocho.ogo.dec.com:8010/ipmt-www/
2.Click on FILE
3.Click on MAIL DOCUMENT
4.Mail To: [email protected] <CR>
  Subject: Testing with: "IPMT WWW Home Page" <CR>
  Attachment: ipmt-www/ [grey field, non clickable]
  Content:              [field entered by Netscape]
    http://grocho.ogo.dec.com:8010/ipmt-www/
5.Click on SEND
7.                                           New mail on node PRSSOS from 
                                              SMTP%"[email protected]" 
                                              (09:58:48)
8.Click on the "Retrieve Mail" ICON
9.A mail is displayed on the PC' screen:
  Subject: Testing with: IPMT WWW Home Page
     Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 10:01:20 +0200
     From: Pierre-Etienne Dietz <[email protected]>
 Organization: UCX-VMS Support-FRANCE
       To: [email protected]

  http://grocho.ogo.dec.com:8010/ipmt-www/
  [this line appears as the 1st text line, underscored]
  [then, the attachment,  a set of html pointers, is interpreted
   by Netscape, and displayed correctly]
10. Summary:
  The received mail follows (in fact it's another one, 
  because the 1St mail being read, it has been deleted from 
  the VMSmail folder; so, don't checck the "time" fileds)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    #1           2-APR-1997 10:35:10.45                                  NEWMAIL
From:   SMTP%"[email protected]"
To:     [email protected]
CC:
Subj:   Testing with: IPMT WWW Home Page

Return-Path: [email protected]
Received: by prssos.evt.dec.com (UCX V4.1-12A, OpenVMS V7.1 Alpha);
        Wed, 2 Apr 1997 10:34:49 +0200
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 10:37:27 +0200
From: Pierre-Etienne Dietz <[email protected]>
Organization: UCX-VMS Support - FRANCE
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I)
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: [email protected]
Subject: Testing with: IPMT WWW Home Page
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------3976F3D4A4F"

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

--------------3976F3D4A4F
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

http://grocho.ogo.dec.com:8010/ipmt-www/

--------------3976F3D4A4F
Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Base: "http://grocho.ogo.dec.com:8010/ipmt-ww
        w/"

<BASE HREF="http://grocho.ogo.dec.com:8010/ipmt-www/">

<HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE>IPMT WWW Home Page</TITLE>
<LINK REV="made" HREF="mailto:[email protected]">
</HEAD>
<BODY>
<IMG SRC="http:/ipmt-www/pictures/digital-logo.gif"
          alt="|d|i|g|i|t|a|l|"

          align=middle>
<strong>Digital Confidential</strong>
<h1>IPMT WWW Home Page</h1>
<hr>
<img src="/ipmt-www/pictures/ipmtlogo.gif" alt="">
<P>
Welcome to the home page of the World Wide Web (WWW) interface
to the Integrated Problem Management Tool (IPMT) data.
<p>
You are using IPMT WWW software Version V1.0-25.
You will read <strong>live data</strong> contained in the <a href="/ipmt-www/doc
uments/ipmt_reporting_database.html">IPMT Reporting Database</a>.
<P>
<H2>Finding and reading IPMT Cases</H2>
<UL>
<li>Show <A HREF="/ipmt-www/read_only_pages/case_directories.shtml">Case directo
ries</a>
       will allow you to select one of several ways to search for Cases.
</li>
<li>Show <A HREF="/ipmt-www/read_only_pages/show_one_case.shtml">one Case</a>
      will return information about a single IPMT Case.
</li>
</UL>

<hr>

<h2><img align = bottom
    src = "/ipmt-www/pictures/info.gif" alt="">Information</H2>
<UL>
<li>
 <A HREF="/ipmt-www/documents/ipmt$www_release_notes.html">Release
 Notes</A> should be read by first time users.
</li>
<li>
 <A HREF="//grocho.ogo.dec.com/public/ipmt_access_info.html">How
 to get access</a> to the IPMT case data.
</li>
<li>
 A brief description of
 <A HREF="//grocho.ogo.dec.com/public/ipmt_www_future_plans.html">IPMT WWW
 future plans</A> is available.
</li>

<li>
 Information about the
 <a href="/ipmt-www/documents/ipmt_reporting_database.html">IPMT
 Reporting Database</a>
</li>
<li>
 <a href="/ipmt-www/admin_pages/">IPMT WWW administration</a>
 (for IPMT WWW Administrators only).
</li>
<li>
 <A HREF="/ipmt-www/documents/ipmt_people.html">People
 Associated with IPMT WWW</A>.
</li>
</UL>
<p>
<hr>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
<a href="/ipmt-www/"><img src="/ipmt-www/pictures/home.gif" alt = "[ Home "></a>
<a href="/ipmt-www/read_only_pages/show_one_case.shtml"><img src="/ipmt-www/pict
ures/case.gif" alt = "| Case "></a>
<a href="/ipmt-www/read_only_pages/case_directories.shtml"><img src="/ipmt-www/p
ictures/directory.gif" alt = "| Directories "></a>
<a href="/ipmt-www/documents/ipmt$www_email.shtml"><img src="/ipmt-www/pictures/
feedback.gif" alt = "| Feedback "></a>
<a href="/ipmt-www/documents/ipmt_help.html"><img src="/ipmt-www/pictures/help.g
if" alt = "| Help ]"></a>
</BLOCKQUOTE>
<p>
Revised Tue May 30, 1995.
<p>
<ADDRESS>
<a href="/ipmt-www/documents/ipmt_people.html">IPMT People</a>
</ADDRESS>
<p>
Copyright (c) 1995 Digital Equipment Corporation.  All rights reserved.
</BODY>
</HTML>

--------------3976F3D4A4F--

5398.2The same questions, another way...VAXRIO::MAUROWed Apr 02 1997 09:2620
    Dear Pierre-Etienne,
    
    I supose you didn't understand my question, mainly because my english
    is not so good. I'll try again.
    
    The test you did I also did over here. The problem is a bit different 
    and I supose it's unsuported, but...
    
    I edited (edit/edt) a text file in the VMS server, that contains HTML 
    statements. Sent it to a PC client through VMSmail, that I known is not 
    able to works with attachements. This message when arrives in the client 
    and is accessed through NETSCAPE mail, it is read as a plain text file. 
    Is there any trick in SMTP/POP3 that permits to send file as an 
    attachement of the mail body (using MIME protocol) and interpreted by the 
    NETSCAPE (MIME compliant) in the client PC?
    
    I Known that VMSMAIL is not smart (MIME-compliant) to work with
    attachements.
    
    Best regards, Mauro Aquino, MCS/CSC-Rio.
5398.3Sorry: I don't know...PRSSOS::DIETZPierre-Etienne DIETZ, Support/FranceThu Apr 03 1997 08:3841
RE: 5398.2 by VAXRIO::MAURO -< The same questions, another way... >-

	Sorry Mauro,
I read your question too fast...

>   I edited (edit/edt) a text file in the VMS server, that contains HTML 
>   statements. Sent it to a PC client through VMSmail, that I known is not 
>   able to works with attachements. This message when arrives in the client 
>   and is accessed through NETSCAPE mail, it is read as a plain text file. 

I too tried to make (edit) a file containing a MIME compliant body, 
  on a VMS system, then send it to my VMS POP server, then retrieve it 
  with a PC POP client (Netscape) ==> No success at all.
  I guess that the MIME RFCs must be respected perfectly; the problem here
  is that there are a lot of MIME RFCs, and I have been told that 
  reading all these RFCs was probably not a good idea: 
  ... and in my case, the reading of 
      LASSIE::UCX$INTERNAL:POP_README.TXT       122/126 17-NOV-1996
      LASSIE::UCX$INTERNAL:POP_RELEASE_NOTES.TXT 24/27  16-OCT-1996
      allowed us to find how to configure UCX$POP... to make it
  transport MIME (binary) attachments.

So, some ideas for your goal, would be 
- to examine the structure of a mail sent by a PC (in example NETSCAPE) 
  to a VMS SMTP server, with the TCPIPTRACE DCL tool.

- or to ask the UCX POP3 developper, whether he has a brief 
  and concise MIME specification.

- or to ask in a MESSAGING conference (in exmple, a few STARS references:
(LJSRV2::INTERNET_TOOLS) MIME attachment
(FORTY2::MAILBUS_400) A question on MIME types/subtypes
(VMSZOO::VMSMAIL) MIME needs are growing.
(FORTY2::MAILBUS_400) MIME and UUENCODE decoding automatically?
(FORTY2::MAILBUS_400) TeamLinks MIME not decoded by MAILbus 400 SMTP gateway
(TURRIS::DIGITAL_UNIX) How do I turnoff DECnet mail Mime encoding
(ABBOTT::TEAMLINKS_WINDOWS) TL 2.7 EFT2: What is meant by MIME support??? ).

I known it's not a good help... Anyway, good luck!
Rgds,
Pierre-Etienne
5398.4Great job...VAXRIO::MAUROThu Apr 03 1997 09:0211
    Dear Pierre,
    
    In fact, the main problem is that VMSmail is not MIME compliant and
    never will be. I'm discussing with the mailing people about a possible
    solution through Mailworks for VMS, that seems to be able to attach
    file respecting RFC standards.
    
    You did a great and helpfull job. Thanks a lot and best regards.
    
    Mauro Aquino, MCS/CSC-Rio.