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Conference lassie::ucx

Title:DEC TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS
Notice:Note 2-SSB Kits, 3-FT Kits, 4-Patch Info, 7-QAR System
Moderator:ucxaxp.ucx.lkg.dec.com::TIBBERT
Created:Thu Nov 17 1994
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5568
Total number of notes:21492

5312.0. "ftp diferent file size?" by KAOT01::M_LAVERGNE () Thu Mar 06 1997 13:28

    HI,
    
    	I have a customer that is using ftp to copy files between two ucx
    4.0 eco3 systems and the resulting file size is not the same. All other
    attributes are ok. 
    
    	The resulting file size is 27594/27600 (Allocation 27600). Also,
    the checksums for both files are diferent.
    
    Original file info:
    -------------------
    TEST.TST;1                 File ID:  (7420,25,0)
    Size:        27612/27612      Owner:    [SYSTEM]
    Created:    6-MAR-1997 10:18:13.94
    Revised:    6-MAR-1997 11:16:10.98 (1)
    Expires:   <None specified>
    Backup:    <No backup recorded>
    Effective: <None specified>
    Recording: <None specified>
    File organization:  Indexed, Prolog: 3, Using 1 key
    Shelved state:      Online
    File attributes:    Allocation: 27612, Extend: 0, Maximum bucket size:4
                        Global buffer count: 0, No version limit
    Record format:      Variable length, maximum 1833 bytes
    Record attributes:  Carriage return carriage control
    RMS attributes:     None
    Journaling enabled: None
    File protection:    System:RWED, Owner:RWED, Group:RWED, World:RWED
    Access Cntrl List:  None
    
    
    Any suggestions?
    
    Mike
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5312.1If we can't figger it out, IPMT it.UCXAXP::GEMIGNANIFri Mar 07 1997 18:2511
    I would expect that they would end up being the same size, but I can
    also think of reasons why they would not be.
    
    If you unpack each of the files (convert to sequential) and compare
    them, is their content the same?
    
    If you bring the shorter file back again, how does it end up?
    
    Is VMS+ mode enabled?
    
    If you try to PUT/FDL the file, what size does the FDL have in it?
5312.2all tests failKAOT01::M_LAVERGNEMon Mar 17 1997 10:2886
    >If you unpack each of the files (convert to sequential) and compare
    >them, is their content the same?
           ?
    
     >If you bring the shorter file back again, how does it end up?
    
    	The same. That is, the shorter version.
    
    
    >Is VMS+ mode enabled?
    	Yes it was. I tried disabling it and put'ing it again. The file 
    	size now matches but the file checksum is diferent and the file 
    	is not usable.
    
    	copied file:  CHECKSUM$CHECKSUM = "1306610140"
    	original file:  CHECKSUM$CHECKSUM = "2418295725"
    
    	
    >If you try to PUT/FDL the file, what size does the FDL have in it?
    	The file has the correct size, however:
    		Convert file /fdl returns %CONVERT-I-DUP, duplicate key
    encountered
    
    	
    
    IDENT   "14-MAR-1997 10:27:36   VAX/VMS FDL$GENERATE Routine"
    SYSTEM
            SOURCE                  VAX/VMS
    FILE
            ALLOCATION              27612
            BEST_TRY_CONTIGUOUS     no
            BUCKET_SIZE             4
            CONTIGUOUS              no
            DEFERRED_WRITE          no
            EXTENSION               0
            GLOBAL_BUFFER_COUNT     0
            MT_BLOCK_SIZE           512
            MT_PROTECTION           32
            MAX_RECORD_NUMBER       0
            MAXIMIZE_VERSION        no
            NAME                    "M3.DAT"
            ORGANIZATION            indexed
            OWNER                   [SYSTEM]
            PROTECTION              (system:RWED, owner:RWED, group:RE,
    world:)
            READ_CHECK              no
            REVISION                6
            SUPERSEDE               no
            WRITE_CHECK             no
    
    RECORD
            BLOCK_SPAN              yes
            CARRIAGE_CONTROL        carriage_return
            CONTROL_FIELD_SIZE      0
            FORMAT                  variable
            SIZE                    0
    
    AREA 0
            ALLOCATION              27600
            BEST_TRY_CONTIGUOUS     no
            BUCKET_SIZE             4
            CONTIGUOUS              no
            EXACT_POSITIONING       no
            EXTENSION               0
            POSITION                none
            VOLUME                  0
    
    KEY 0
            CHANGES                 no
            DATA_AREA               0
            DATA_FILL               100
            DATA_KEY_COMPRESSION    yes
            DATA_RECORD_COMPRESSION yes
            DUPLICATES              no
            INDEX_AREA              0
            INDEX_COMPRESSION       yes
            INDEX_FILL              100
            LEVEL1_INDEX_AREA       0
            NAME                    ""
            NULL_KEY                no
            NULL_VALUE              0
            PROLOG                  3
            SEG0_LENGTH             16
            SEG0_POSITION           0
            TYPE                    string
    
5312.3Riddle me thisUCXAXP::GEMIGNANIMon Mar 17 1997 16:137
    What is the clustersize of the disk where the file starts from?
    
    Does it have highwater marking enabled?
    
    What is the clustersize of the disk where the file is copied to?
    
    Does it have highwater marking enabled?
5312.4To/From same systemKAOT01::M_LAVERGNETue Mar 18 1997 14:3714
    *    What is the clustersize of the disk where the file starts from?
     		3
    
    *    Does it have highwater marking enabled?
     		Yes
    
    *    What is the clustersize of the disk where the file is copied to?
     		3
    
    *    Does it have highwater marking enabled?
     		Yes
    
    To simplify testing, the file is currently being copied from/to the
    same system. 
5312.5location of fileKAOT01::M_LAVERGNEWed Mar 19 1997 13:184
    A copy of the file can be found at the following location:
    
    	CTHU11""::TEST.DAT
        57.874