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| Title: | Soapbox. Just Soapbox. |
| Notice: | No more new notes |
| Moderator: | WAHOO::LEVESQUE ONS |
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| Created: | Thu Nov 17 1994 |
| Last Modified: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Number of topics: | 862 |
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662.0. "FYI - Popcorn is an important food" by PERFOM::LICEA_KANE (when it's comin' from the left) Mon Feb 26 1996 11:53
TITLE IX--AGRICULTURAL PROMOTION
SUBTITLE A--POPCORN
SEC. 901. SHORT TITLE.
This subtitle may be cited as the `Popcorn Promotion, Research,
and Consumer Information Act'.
SEC. 902. FINDINGS AND DECLARATION OF POLICY.
(a) FINDINGS- Congress finds that--
(1) popcorn is an important food that is a valuable part of
the human diet;
(2) the production and processing of popcorn plays a
significant role in the economy of the United States in that
popcorn is processed by several popcorn processors, distributed
through wholesale and retail outlets, and consumed by millions
of people throughout the United States and foreign countries;
(3) popcorn must be of high quality, readily available,
handled properly, and marketed efficiently to ensure that the
benefits of popcorn are available to the people of the United
States;
(4) the maintenance and expansion of existing markets and
uses and the development of new markets and uses for popcorn
are vital to the welfare of processors and persons concerned
with marketing, using, and producing popcorn for the market, as
well as to the agricultural economy of the United States;
(5) the cooperative development, financing, and
implementation of a coordinated program of popcorn promotion,
research, consumer information, and industry information is
necessary to maintain and expand markets for popcorn; and
(6) popcorn moves in interstate and foreign commerce, and
popcorn that does not move in those channels of commerce
directly burdens or affects interstate commerce in popcorn.
(b) POLICY- It is the policy of Congress that it is in the public
interest to authorize the establishment, through the exercise of
the powers provided in this subtitle, of an orderly procedure for
developing, financing (through adequate assessments on unpopped
popcorn processed domestically), and carrying out an effective,
continuous, and coordinated program of promotion, research,
consumer information, and industry information designed to--
(1) strengthen the position of the popcorn industry in the
marketplace; and
(2) maintain and expand domestic and foreign markets and uses
for popcorn.
(c) PURPOSES- The purposes of this subtitle are to--
(1) maintain and expand the markets for all popcorn products
in a manner that--
(A) is not designed to maintain or expand any individual
share of a producer or processor of the market;
(B) does not compete with or replace individual
advertising or promotion efforts designed to promote
individual brand name or trade name popcorn products; and
(C) authorizes and funds programs that result in
government speech promoting government objectives; and
(2) establish a nationally coordinated program for popcorn
promotion, research, consumer information, and industry
information.
(d) STATUTORY CONSTRUCTION- This subtitle treats processors
equitably. Nothing in this subtitle--
(1) provides for the imposition of a trade barrier to the
entry into the United States of imported popcorn for the
domestic market; or
(2) provides for the control of production or otherwise
limits the right of any individual processor to produce popcorn.
SEC. 903. DEFINITIONS.
In this subtitle (except as otherwise specifically provided):
(1) BOARD- The term `Board' means the Popcorn Board
established under section 905(b).
(2) COMMERCE- The term `commerce' means interstate, foreign,
or intrastate commerce.
(3) CONSUMER INFORMATION- The term `consumer information'
means information and programs that will assist consumers and
other persons in making evaluations and decisions regarding the
purchase, preparation, and use of popcorn.
(4) DEPARTMENT- The term `Department' means the Department of
Agriculture.
(5) INDUSTRY INFORMATION- The term `industry information'
means information and programs that will lead to the
development of--
(A) new markets, new marketing strategies, or increased
efficiency for the popcorn industry; or
(B) activities to enhance the image of the popcorn
industry.
(6) MARKETING- The term `marketing' means the sale or other
disposition of unpopped popcorn for human consumption in a
channel of commerce, but does not include a sale or disposition
to or between processors.
(7) ORDER- The term `order' means an order issued under
section 904.
(8) PERSON- The term `person' means an individual, group of
individuals, partnership, corporation, association, or
cooperative, or any other legal entity.
(9) POPCORN- The term `popcorn' means unpopped popcorn (Zea
Mays L) that is--
(A) commercially grown;
(B) processed in the United States by shelling, cleaning,
or drying; and
(C) introduced into a channel of commerce.
(10) PROCESS- The term `process' means to shell, clean, dry,
and prepare popcorn for the market, but does not include
packaging popcorn for the market without also engaging in
another activity described in this paragraph.
(11) PROCESSOR- The term `processor' means a person engaged
in the preparation of unpopped popcorn for the market who owns
or shares the ownership and risk of loss of the popcorn and who
processes and distributes over 4,000,000 pounds of popcorn in
the market per year.
(12) PROMOTION- The term `promotion' means an action,
including paid advertising, to enhance the image or
desirability of popcorn.
(13) RESEARCH- The term `research' means any type of study to
advance the image, desirability, marketability, production,
product development, quality, or nutritional value of popcorn.
(14) SECRETARY- The term `Secretary' means the Secretary of
Agriculture.
(15) STATE- The term `State' means each of the 50 States and
the District of Columbia.
(16) UNITED STATES- The term `United States' means all of the
States.
SEC. 904. ISSUANCE OF ORDERS.
(a) IN GENERAL- To effectuate the policy described in section
902(b), the Secretary, subject to subsection (b), shall issue 1 or
more orders applicable to processors. An order shall be applicable
to all popcorn production and marketing areas in the United States.
Not more than 1 order shall be in effect under this subtitle at any
1 time.
(b) PROCEDURE-
(1) PROPOSAL OR REQUEST FOR ISSUANCE- The Secretary may
propose the issuance of an order, or an association of
processors or any other person that would be affected by an
order may request the issuance of, and submit a proposal for,
an order.
(2) NOTICE AND COMMENT CONCERNING PROPOSED ORDER- Not later
than 60 days after the receipt of a request and proposal for an
order under paragraph (1), or at such time as the Secretary
determines to propose an order, the Secretary shall publish a
proposed order and give due notice and opportunity for public
comment on the proposed order.
(3) ISSUANCE OF ORDER- After notice and opportunity for
public comment under paragraph (2), the Secretary shall issue
an order, taking into consideration the comments received and
including in the order such provisions as are necessary to
ensure that the order conforms to this subtitle. The order
shall be issued and become effective not later than 150 days
after the date of publication of the proposed order.
(c) AMENDMENTS- The Secretary, as appropriate, may amend an
order. The provisions of this subtitle applicable to an order
shall be applicable to any amendment to an order, except that an
amendment to an order may not require a referendum to become
effective.
SEC. 905. REQUIRED TERMS IN ORDERS.
(a) IN GENERAL- An order shall contain the terms and conditions
specified in this section.
(b) ESTABLISHMENT AND MEMBERSHIP OF POPCORN BOARD-
(1) IN GENERAL- The order shall provide for the establishment
of, and appointment of members to, a Popcorn Board that shall
consist of not fewer than 4 members and not more than 9 members.
(2) NOMINATIONS- The members of the Board shall be processors
appointed by the Secretary from nominations submitted by
processors in a manner authorized by the Secretary, subject to
paragraph (3). Not more than 1 member may be appointed to the
Board from nominations submitted by any 1 processor.
(3) GEOGRAPHICAL DIVERSITY- In making appointments, the
Secretary shall take into account, to the extent practicable,
the geographical distribution of popcorn production throughout
the United States.
(4) TERMS- The term of appointment of each member of the
Board shall be 3 years, except that the members appointed to
the initial Board shall serve, proportionately, for terms of 2,
3, and 4 years, as determined by the Secretary.
(5) COMPENSATION AND EXPENSES- A member of the Board shall
serve without compensation, but shall be reimbursed for the
expenses of the member incurred in the performance of duties
for the Board.
(c) POWERS AND DUTIES OF BOARD- The order shall define the powers
and duties of the Board, which shall include the power and duty--
(1) to administer the order in accordance with the terms and
provisions of the order;
(2) to make regulations to effectuate the terms and
provisions of the order;
(3) to appoint members of the Board to serve on an executive
committee;
(4) to propose, receive, evaluate, and approve budgets,
plans, and projects of promotion, research, consumer
information, and industry information, and to contract with
appropriate persons to implement the plans or projects;
(5) to accept and receive voluntary contributions, gifts, and
market promotion or similar funds;
(6) to invest, pending disbursement under a plan or project,
funds collected through assessments authorized under subsection
(f), only in--
(A) obligations of the United States or an agency of the
United States;
(B) general obligations of a State or a political
subdivision of a State;
(C) an interest-bearing account or certificate of deposit
of a bank that is a member of the Federal Reserve System; or
(D) obligations fully guaranteed as to principal and
interest by the United States;
(7) to receive, investigate, and report to the Secretary
complaints of violations of the order; and
(8) to recommend to the Secretary amendments to the order.
(d) PLANS AND BUDGETS-
(1) IN GENERAL- The order shall provide that the Board shall
submit to the Secretary for approval any plan or project of
promotion, research, consumer information, or industry
information.
(2) BUDGETS- The order shall require the Board to submit to
the Secretary for approval budgets on a fiscal year basis of
the anticipated expenses and disbursements of the Board in the
implementation of the order, including projected costs of plans
and projects of promotion, research, consumer information, and
industry information.
(e) CONTRACTS AND AGREEMENTS-
(1) IN GENERAL- The order shall provide that the Board may
enter into contracts or agreements for the implementation and
carrying out of plans or projects of promotion, research,
consumer information, or industry information, including
contracts with a processor organization, and for the payment of
the cost of the plans or projects with funds collected by the
Board under the order.
(2) REQUIREMENTS- A contract or agreement under paragraph (1)
shall provide that--
(A) the contracting party shall develop and submit to the
Board a plan or project, together with a budget that shows
the estimated costs to be incurred for the plan or project;
(B) the plan or project shall become effective on the
approval of the Secretary; and
(C) the contracting party shall keep accurate records of
each transaction of the party, account for funds received
and expended, make periodic reports to the Board of
activities conducted, and make such other reports as the
Board or the Secretary may require.
(3) PROCESSOR ORGANIZATIONS- The order shall provide that the
Board may contract with processor organizations for any other
services. The contract shall include provisions comparable to
the provisions required by paragraph (2).
(f) ASSESSMENTS-
(1) PROCESSORS- The order shall provide that each processor
marketing popcorn in the United States or for export shall, in
the manner prescribed in the order, pay assessments and remit
the assessments to the Board.
(2) DIRECT MARKETERS- A processor that markets popcorn
produced by the processor directly to consumers shall pay and
remit the assessments on the popcorn directly to the Board in
the manner prescribed in the order.
(3) RATE-
(A) IN GENERAL- The rate of assessment prescribed in the
order shall be a rate established by the Board but not more
than $.08 per hundredweight of popcorn.
(B) ADJUSTMENT OF RATE- The order shall provide that the
Board, with the approval of the Secretary, may raise or
lower the rate of assessment annually up to a maximum of
$.08 per hundredweight of popcorn.
(4) USE OF ASSESSMENTS-
(A) IN GENERAL- Subject to subparagraphs (B) and (C) and
subsection (c)(5), the order shall provide that the
assessments collected shall be used by the Board--
(i) to pay expenses incurred in implementing and
administering the order, with provision for a
reasonable reserve; and
(ii) to cover such administrative costs as are
incurred by the Secretary, except that the
administrative costs incurred by the Secretary (other
than any legal expenses incurred to defend and enforce
the order) that may be reimbursed by the Board may not
exceed 15 percent of the projected annual revenues of
the Board.
(B) EXPENDITURES BASED ON SOURCE OF ASSESSMENTS- In
implementing plans and projects of promotion, research,
consumer information, and industry information, the Board
shall expend funds on--
(i) plans and projects for popcorn marketed in the
United States or Canada in proportion to the amount of
assessments collected on domestically marketed popcorn;
and
(ii) plans and projects for exported popcorn in
proportion to the amount of assessments collected on
exported popcorn.
(C) NOTIFICATION- If the administrative costs incurred by
the Secretary that are reimbursed by the Board exceed 10
percent of the projected annual revenues of the Board, the
Secretary shall notify as soon as practicable the Committee
on Agriculture of the House of Representatives and the
Committee on Agriculture, Nutrition, and Forestry of the
Senate.
(g) PROHIBITION ON USE OF FUNDS- The order shall prohibit any
funds collected by the Board under the order from being used to
influence government action or policy, other than the use of funds
by the Board for the development and recommendation to the
Secretary of amendments to the order.
(h) BOOKS AND RECORDS OF THE BOARD- The order shall require the
Board to--
(1) maintain such books and records (which shall be available
to the Secretary for inspection and audit) as the Secretary may
prescribe;
(2) prepare and submit to the Secretary, from time to time,
such reports as the Secretary may prescribe; and
(3) account for the receipt and disbursement of all funds
entrusted to the Board.
(i) BOOKS AND RECORDS OF PROCESSORS-
(1) MAINTENANCE AND REPORTING OF INFORMATION- The order shall
require that each processor of popcorn for the market shall--
(A) maintain, and make available for inspection, such
books and records as are required by the order; and
(B) file reports at such time, in such manner, and having
such content as is prescribed in the order.
(2) USE OF INFORMATION- The Secretary shall authorize the use
of information regarding processors that may be accumulated
under a law or regulation other than this subtitle or a
regulation issued under this subtitle. The information shall be
made available to the Secretary as appropriate for the
administration or enforcement of this subtitle, the order, or
any regulation issued under this subtitle.
(3) CONFIDENTIALITY-
(A) IN GENERAL- Subject to subparagraphs (B), (C), and
(D), all information obtained by the Secretary under
paragraphs (1) and (2) shall be kept confidential by all
officers, employees, and agents of the Board and the
Department.
(B) DISCLOSURE BY SECRETARY- Information referred to in
subparagraph (A) may be disclosed if--
(i) the Secretary considers the information relevant;
(ii) the information is revealed in a suit or
administrative hearing brought at the request of the
Secretary, or to which the Secretary or any officer of
the United States is a party; and
(iii) the information relates to the order.
(C) DISCLOSURE TO OTHER AGENCY OF FEDERAL GOVERNMENT-
(i) IN GENERAL- No information obtained under the
authority of this subtitle may be made available to
another agency or officer of the Federal Government for
any purpose other than the implementation of this
subtitle and any investigatory or enforcement activity
necessary for the implementation of this subtitle.
(ii) PENALTY- A person who knowingly violates this
subparagraph shall, on conviction, be subject to a fine
of not more than $1,000 or to imprisonment for not more
than 1 year, or both, and if an officer, employee, or
agent of the Board or the Department, shall be removed
from office or terminated from employment, as applicable.
(D) GENERAL STATEMENTS- Nothing in this paragraph
prohibits--
(i) the issuance of general statements, based on the
reports, of the number of persons subject to the order
or statistical data collected from the reports, if the
statements do not identify the information provided by
any person; or
(ii) the publication, by direction of the Secretary,
of the name of a person violating the order, together
with a statement of the particular provisions of the
order violated by the person.
(j) OTHER TERMS AND CONDITIONS- The order shall contain such
terms and conditions, consistent with this subtitle, as are
necessary to effectuate this subtitle, including regulations
relating to the assessment of late payment charges.
SEC. 906. REFERENDA.
(a) INITIAL REFERENDUM-
(1) IN GENERAL- Within the 60-day period immediately
preceding the effective date of an order, as provided in
section 904(b)(3), the Secretary shall conduct a referendum
among processors who, during a representative period as
determined by the Secretary, have been engaged in processing,
for the purpose of ascertaining whether the order shall go into
effect.
(2) APPROVAL OF ORDER- The order shall become effective, as
provided in section 904(b), only if the Secretary determines
that the order has been approved by not less than a majority of
the processors voting in the referendum and if the majority
processed more than 50 percent of the popcorn certified as
having been processed, during the representative period, by the
processors voting.
(b) ADDITIONAL REFERENDA-
(1) IN GENERAL- Not earlier than 3 years after the effective
date of an order approved under subsection (a), on the request
of the Board or a representative group of processors, as
described in paragraph (2), the Secretary may conduct
additional referenda to determine whether processors favor the
termination or suspension of the order.
(2) REPRESENTATIVE GROUP OF PROCESSORS- An additional
referendum on an order shall be conducted if the referendum is
requested by 30 percent or more of the number of processors
who, during a representative period as determined by the
Secretary, have been engaged in processing.
(3) DISAPPROVAL OF ORDER- If the Secretary determines, in a
referendum conducted under paragraph (1), that suspension or
termination of the order is favored by at least 2/3 of the
processors voting in the referendum, the Secretary shall--
(A) suspend or terminate, as appropriate, collection of
assessments under the order not later than 180 days after
the date of determination; and
(B) suspend or terminate the order, as appropriate, in an
orderly manner as soon as practicable after the date of
determination.
(c) COSTS OF REFERENDUM- The Secretary shall be reimbursed from
assessments collected by the Board for any expenses incurred by the
Secretary in connection with the conduct of any referendum under
this section.
(d) METHOD OF CONDUCTING REFERENDUM- Subject to this section, a
referendum conducted under this section shall be conducted in such
manner as is determined by the Secretary.
(e) CONFIDENTIALITY OF BALLOTS AND OTHER INFORMATION-
(1) IN GENERAL- The ballots and other information or reports
that reveal or tend to reveal the vote of any processor, or any
business operation of a processor, shall be considered to be
strictly confidential and shall not be disclosed.
(2) PENALTY FOR VIOLATIONS- An officer or employee of the
Department who knowingly violates paragraph (1) shall be
subject to the penalties described in section 905(i)(3)(C)(ii).
SEC. 907. PETITION AND REVIEW.
(a) PETITION-
(1) IN GENERAL- A person subject to an order may file with
the Secretary a petition--
(A) stating that the order, a provision of the order, or
an obligation imposed in connection with the order is not
established in accordance with law; and
(B) requesting a modification of the order or obligation
or an exemption from the order or obligation.
(2) STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS- A petition under paragraph (1)
concerning an obligation may be filed not later than 2 years
after the date of imposition of the obligation.
(3) HEARINGS- The petitioner shall be given the opportunity
for a hearing on a petition filed under paragraph (1), in
accordance with regulations issued by the Secretary.
(4) RULING- After a hearing under paragraph (3), the
Secretary shall issue a ruling on the petition that is the
subject of the hearing, which shall be final if the ruling is
in accordance with applicable law.
(b) REVIEW-
(1) COMMENCEMENT OF ACTION- The district court of the United
States for any district in which a person who is a petitioner
under subsection (a) resides or carries on business shall have
jurisdiction to review a ruling on the petition, if the person
files a complaint not later than 20 days after the date of
issuance of the ruling under subsection (a)(4).
(2) PROCESS- Service of process in a proceeding under
paragraph (1) may be made on the Secretary by delivering a copy
of the complaint to the Secretary.
(3) REMANDS- If the court determines, under paragraph (1),
that a ruling issued under subsection (a)(4) is not in
accordance with applicable law, the court shall remand the
matter to the Secretary with directions--
(A) to make such ruling as the court shall determine to
be in accordance with law; or
(B) to take such further proceedings as, in the opinion
of the court, the law requires.
(c) ENFORCEMENT- The pendency of proceedings instituted under
subsection (a) may not impede, hinder, or delay the Secretary or
the Attorney General from taking action under section 908.
SEC. 908. ENFORCEMENT.
(a) IN GENERAL- The Secretary may issue an enforcement order to
restrain or prevent any person from violating an order or
regulation issued under this subtitle and may assess a civil
penalty of not more than $1,000 for each violation of the
enforcement order, after an opportunity for an administrative
hearing, if the Secretary determines that the administration and
enforcement of the order and this subtitle would be adequately
served by such a procedure.
(b) JURISDICTION- The district courts of the United States are
vested with jurisdiction specifically to enforce, and to prevent
and restrain any person from violating, an order or regulation
issued under this subtitle.
(c) REFERRAL TO ATTORNEY GENERAL- A civil action authorized to be
brought under this section shall be referred to the Attorney
General for appropriate action.
SEC. 909. INVESTIGATIONS AND POWER TO SUBPOENA.
(a) INVESTIGATIONS- The Secretary may make such investigations as
the Secretary considers necessary--
(1) for the effective administration of this subtitle; and
(2) to determine whether any person subject to this subtitle
has engaged, or is about to engage, in an act that constitutes
or will constitute a violation of this subtitle or of an order
or regulation issued under this subtitle.
(b) OATHS, AFFIRMATIONS, AND SUBPOENAS- For the purpose of an
investigation under subsection (a), the Secretary may administer
oaths and affirmations, subpoena witnesses, compel the attendance
of witnesses, take evidence, and require the production of any
records that are relevant to the inquiry. The attendance of
witnesses and the production of records may be required from any
place in the United States.
(c) AID OF COURTS-
(1) REQUEST- In the case of contumacy by, or refusal to obey
a subpoena issued to, any person, the Secretary may request the
aid of any court of the United States within the jurisdiction
of which the investigation or proceeding is carried on, or
where the person resides or carries on business, in requiring
the attendance and testimony of the person and the production
of records.
(2) ENFORCEMENT ORDER OF THE COURT- The court may issue an
enforcement order requiring the person to appear before the
Secretary to produce records or to give testimony concerning
the matter under investigation.
(3) CONTEMPT- A failure to obey an enforcement order of the
court under paragraph (2) may be punished by the court as a
contempt of the court.
(4) PROCESS- Process in a case under this subsection may be
served in the judicial district in which the person resides or
conducts business or wherever the person may be found.
SEC. 910. RELATION TO OTHER PROGRAMS.
Nothing in this subtitle preempts or supersedes any other program
relating to popcorn promotion organized and operated under the laws
of the United States or any State.
SEC. 911. REGULATIONS.
The Secretary may issue such regulations as are necessary to
carry out this subtitle.
SEC. 912. AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS.
There are authorized to be appropriated such sums as are
necessary to carry out this subtitle. Amounts made available under
this section or otherwise made available to the Department, and
amounts made available under any other marketing or promotion
order, may not be used to pay any administrative expense of the
Board.
| T.R | Title | User | Personal
Name | Date | Lines |
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| 662.1 | Pathetic.... | PERFOM::LICEA_KANE | when it's comin' from the left | Mon Feb 26 1996 12:07 | 12 |
|
I'll spare you all the glories of Canola and Rapeseed oil
(and its new board),
the vital national interest represented by Kiwifruit
(and its new government board)
and of course, the ever popular importance of agricultural commodities
(and its new government board)....
This is just a small glimpse of the Republican revolution to "downsize"
the federal government.
-mr. bill
|
| 662.2 | | USAT02::HALLR | God loves even you! | Mon Feb 26 1996 12:08 | 1 |
| poppycock!
|
| 662.3 | This is on the front burner of the revolution people! | PERFOM::LICEA_KANE | when it's comin' from the left | Mon Feb 26 1996 12:29 | 15 |
| Isn't "poppycock" an individual brand of popcorn snack?
That won't be promoted by the new board. Nor will "Smartfood" or
"Crackerjacks" or "Newman's Own"....
And besides, only one of those products will benefit directly from
this Federal Popcorn Board. You see, the Federal Popcorn Board will
collect taxes from all unpopped popcorn, but will not promote the uses
of popcorn after it is popped.
So, microwave popcorn is in, crackerjacks is out.
So sayeth the Republican Revolution!
-mr. bill
|
| 662.4 | | SUBPAC::SADIN | Freedom isn't free. | Mon Feb 26 1996 12:34 | 6 |
|
I'm all for it. We need a popcorn board to keep the quality of
popcorn up to snuff. The fat free stuff is disgusting.
|
| 662.5 | politically incorrect ? | GAAS::BRAUCHER | Welcome to Paradise | Mon Feb 26 1996 12:37 | 6 |
|
I was so distressed by this topic, I ran to the vending machine
for Smart Food.
bb
|
| 662.6 | | MOLAR::DELBALSO | I (spade) my (dogface) | Mon Feb 26 1996 12:38 | 2 |
| Who's sponsoring the bill, Bill?
|
| 662.7 | Oops. Clinton didn't even sign it! | ALPHAZ::HARNEY | John A Harney | Mon Feb 26 1996 12:38 | 9 |
| re: .1
It's no use, Bill.
All the 'BoxRight knows is that Clinton signed this stuff. Pointing out
"their guy" is involved only drives their heads deeper in the sand.
But I liked it. Thanks.
\john
|
| 662.8 | Popcorn eaters are smaaaaaaarrrrrrttt! | SMURF::BINDER | Manus Celer Dei | Mon Feb 26 1996 12:40 | 6 |
| TTWA:
Observed in my area's vending machine: 3/8 oz Bachmann's pre-popped
popcorn in cello bag, 45 cents. 3.5 oz Act II reactor popcorn, 75
cents. I didn't think it necessary to compute the unit pricing on the
two packages.
|
| 662.9 | Your Revolution in Action.... | PERFOM::LICEA_KANE | when it's comin' from the left | Mon Feb 26 1996 12:57 | 22 |
| Jack -
Hint one - In the Senate, one of the Republican candidates (for a little
while longer) for President.
Hint two - In the House, Mr. Latham.
This important legislation was introduced while the Federal Government
was shutdown.
It has passed the Senate, is expected to pass the House, has not yet been
signed into law.
Ironically, the Republican revolution fought a long and hard battle
over popcorn during Welfare Reform. Seems some Revolutionaries thought
that popcorn is junk food that should not be purchased with government
money (so much for giving authority back to the States) while others
insisted that Popcorn is a valuable part of any caddy queen's diet.
The Revolutionaries voted with their pocketbook. (It's a version of
the golden rule - He who donates gold to THE PARTY gets to make the rules.)
-mr. bill
|
| 662.10 | ...one voted for a lot of hot air popcorn poppers. | PERFOM::LICEA_KANE | when it's comin' from the left | Mon Feb 26 1996 13:05 | 6 |
| BTW, Jack -
In case you are wondering, my Senators wisely voted against this
nonsense. Your Senators on the other hand....
-mr. bill
|
| 662.11 | | SUBPAC::SADIN | Freedom isn't free. | Mon Feb 26 1996 13:11 | 5 |
|
ah, the "my senator's better than your senator" bit.
|
| 662.12 | | SMURF::BINDER | Manus Celer Dei | Mon Feb 26 1996 13:12 | 1 |
| 'Smatter, Jim? Truth hurt?
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| 662.13 | | MOLAR::DELBALSO | I (spade) my (dogface) | Mon Feb 26 1996 13:14 | 3 |
| I will soundly chastise Messrs. Gregg and Smith in my next missives to them,
Bill.
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| 662.14 | re: .12 | SUBPAC::SADIN | Freedom isn't free. | Mon Feb 26 1996 13:15 | 15 |
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Nah, I'm not a republican or a demo, so it doesn't really matter to
me. The only thing that bothers me is Mr. Bill, but you knew that
already.
This whole repub vs. demo stuff is sickening. I believe it was
Thomas Jefferson who said, "If I could not get into heaven but with a
party, I would not go at all". Even the FF's knew strict party
affiliation was silly. I vote for whomever supports the issues I find
near and dear to my heart, no matter if they be demo, repub, or
libertarian.
jim
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| 662.15 | | SOLVIT::KRAWIECKI | Lord of the Turnip Truck | Mon Feb 26 1996 13:19 | 4 |
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"My pork's better'n your pork... my pork's better than yours.."
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| 662.16 | One too many "s".... | PERFOM::LICEA_KANE | when it's comin' from the left | Mon Feb 26 1996 14:17 | 12 |
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Jack -
Since I don't want you to look more foolish than you already do,
Gregg voted agin. Smith voted for.
I'm sure that they faithfully read your every missive.
As for the other noises, go ahead, proudly support new taxes and more
government. BTW, Jim. You've mispeeled "issue".
-mr. bill
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| 662.17 | | SUBPAC::SADIN | Freedom isn't free. | Mon Feb 26 1996 16:07 | 9 |
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>You've mispeeled "issue".
nah, this is too easy. :)
jim
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| 662.18 | | MOLAR::DELBALSO | I (spade) my (dogface) | Mon Feb 26 1996 23:26 | 4 |
| > Gregg voted agin. Smith voted for.
Then why the implication to the contrary in .10, Bill?
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| 662.19 | | SOLVIT::KRAWIECKI | Lord of the Turnip Truck | Tue Feb 27 1996 09:38 | 8 |
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>Then why the implication to the contrary in .10, Bill?
Because.... he's... MR. BILL, of course!!!
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| 662.20 | Republican budget priorities - kiwifruit? | PERFOM::LICEA_KANE | when it's comin' from the left | Tue Feb 27 1996 10:05 | 6 |
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The two of you need to learn how to read.
"one voted for" does not mean *both* voted for.
-mr. bill
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| 662.21 | | PENUTS::DDESMAISONS | person B | Tue Feb 27 1996 10:09 | 5 |
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> The two of you need to learn how to read.
yes. one would have thought that, by now, the 'box vets
would have realized the importance of reading your reply titles.
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| 662.22 | Can't wait for "The Federal Salsa Institute" | PERFOM::LICEA_KANE | when it's comin' from the left | Tue Feb 27 1996 12:09 | 49 |
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Nah. Why learn something like that when you can avoid the obvious.
Another tax increase.
Another growth in government.
All brought to us by the Republican Revolution.
It's one thing to say you'd cut Agriculture if it was possible to do
so.
It's another thing to grow Agriculture in such absurd fashions as a
"Popcorn Board" paid for with *NEW* *TAXES*.
Hypocrites.
You all want a free market, so long is it's the other market
that's free.
You all stand by and watch somebody pay your Mr. Republican Senator
and Mr. Revolution Representative to regulate their market.
Government should be cut of course - but over there, not here.
Somebody paid good money to THE PARTY.
THE PARTY took the money.
SO it follows that GOVERNMENT grows where the MONEY says it should.
And it follows that we the people get taxed where the MONEY says we
should get taxed.
So joining the government produced "the other white meat" laugh track
or "it's what's for dinner" nonsense why not get something as valuable
as "the fresh food that takes just seconds to pop" rubbish.
How about "kiwifruit - it's for more than just decoration for keylime pie."
Can't wait to watch the new taxpayer financed the versitile soybean
shills and the wonders of the corn commodity campaign. I guess ADM
found it too burdensome to go it alone on sunday mornings.
I know, I know, let's get a taxpayer funded "RISC council." Just
to provide valuable consumer information of course. And to promote
this because of course, "Congress finds that RISC is an important
processor."
Too bad our chips don't grow in fields, huh? I'm sure we'll have
a "Corn Chip Board" not too long from now.
-mr. bill
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| 662.23 | | SUBPAC::SADIN | Freedom isn't free. | Tue Feb 27 1996 13:13 | 11 |
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re: .22
{yawn}
I suppose the Democrats are saints? I'm not saying I support these
bs boards/programs, but c'mon, there are bad things being done by BOTH
parties.
jim
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| 662.24 | Poor popcorn imitation.... | PERFOM::LICEA_KANE | when it's comin' from the left | Tue Feb 27 1996 13:25 | 9 |
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Gosh and golly, what condemnation.
"I'm not saying I support, but but but but but but but but but but
but but but but but but but but but...."
Sputter like that, and you'll hurt yourself.
-mr. bill
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| 662.25 | yep, pork is there | GAAS::BRAUCHER | Welcome to Paradise | Tue Feb 27 1996 13:33 | 9 |
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the total agriculture appropriation is down
the "agriculture" department mostly consists of things unrelated
to farming
what is left we could do without
bb
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| 662.26 | would you like me to jump up and down and stamp my feet? | SUBPAC::SADIN | Freedom isn't free. | Tue Feb 27 1996 13:41 | 9 |
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re: .24
As usual, Mr. Bill resorts to verbal attack, looking down upon the
unwashed masses from his high horse. You're an intelligent person Mr.
Bill, it's too bad you're such an *****le.....
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| 662.27 | But but but but but but you'll try.... | PERFOM::LICEA_KANE | when it's comin' from the left | Tue Feb 27 1996 14:00 | 7 |
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No, I'd like you to stop and think for a while.
These are stupid Congress Tricks. You can't blame these new taxes and
these new boards on Democrats.
-mr. bill
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| 662.28 | You don't want me to think, you just want to insult me | SUBPAC::SADIN | Freedom isn't free. | Tue Feb 27 1996 14:08 | 17 |
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> These are stupid Congress Tricks. You can't blame these new taxes and
> these new boards on Democrats.
Uh, did I even TRY and blame these new taxes/boards on the dems?
Why don't you point out where I blame the dems and exonerate the
repubs hmmm?? Why don't you just admit that you've already dropped me
in a little republican box in your mind and you can't bear the thought
that I might actually vote outside the republican party. Heck, I've
voted democrat before! ooooooh! ahhhhhh! scary stuff! Your myopic view
of who I am and what I stand for is pathetic and I would expect more
from you. I am just a wee bit more broad minded and intelligent than
you give me credit for.
jim
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| 662.29 | | CPEEDY::MARKEY | He's ma...ma...ma...mad sir | Tue Feb 27 1996 14:13 | 7 |
| > Heck, I've voted democrat before!
> I am just a wee bit more ... intelligent ...
Stop contradicting yourself! :-)
-b
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| 662.30 | | SOLVIT::KRAWIECKI | Lord of the Turnip Truck | Tue Feb 27 1996 14:27 | 8 |
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re: .27
>No, I'd like you to stop and think for a while.
"and live with my insults..."
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| 662.31 | Why bring up Democrats at all? | PERFOM::LICEA_KANE | when it's comin' from the left | Tue Feb 27 1996 14:40 | 18 |
| What am I to make of a reply begins "I suppose the Democrats are saints?"
and finishes with "there are bad things being done by BOTH parties."
Am I misreading your moral relativism? No.
Talk is cheap.
A Senator or Representative can't say they are for smaller government
and then vote for a FEDERAL POPCORN BOARD. Well, they can. But I'll
call them on it. You'll appologize for them, saying, but but but but
the Democrats are bad too. SO WHAT?
We are talking about the hypocrites running Congress right now.
And *THEY* call themselves REPUBLICANS.
-mr. bill
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| 662.32 | | TRLIAN::MIRAB1::REITH | If it's worth doing, it's worth overdoing | Tue Feb 27 1996 16:14 | 4 |
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And people wonder why I'm Libertarian
Skip
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| 662.33 | | LANDO::OLIVER_B | tools are our friends | Tue Feb 27 1996 16:39 | 1 |
| And people wonder why i'm a libertine.
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| 662.34 | | SUBPAC::SADIN | Freedom isn't free. | Tue Feb 27 1996 17:24 | 37 |
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> What am I to make of a reply begins "I suppose the Democrats are saints?"
> and finishes with "there are bad things being done by BOTH parties."
> Am I misreading your moral relativism? No.
Boy, you certainly read a lot into what I'm saying. YOU attacked
the republicans and basically called them all devils (implying that the
democratic party was somehow better or more morally correct than the
republican party). YOU are the one who implied that the entire
republican party is on the take. And you give me heck about questioning
if the morality of the democratic party is any better? You think I wear
thick blinders? better check yer own.
> -< Why bring up Democrats at all? >-
Because you seem to be implying that the democratic party are the
good guys and the repubs are the bad guys. I don't believe there are
any good guys and we need to work to keep BOTH parties under control. I
agree with you that the republican supported Federal Popcorn Board is a
stupid waste of taxpayer dollars and I seriously question the ethics of
whomever supported/voted for that board.
> A Senator or Representative can't say they are for smaller government
> and then vote for a FEDERAL POPCORN BOARD. Well, they can. But I'll
> call them on it. You'll appologize for them, saying, but but but but
> the Democrats are bad too. SO WHAT?
I DID NOT apologize for those idiots, no matter what you read into
it.
Out of curiosity, did any dems vote for this board?
jim
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| 662.35 | This revolution is being televised on the Comedy Channel.... | PERFOM::LICEA_KANE | when it's comin' from the left | Tue Feb 27 1996 17:43 | 41 |
| | Boy, you certainly read a lot into what I'm saying. YOU attacked
| the republicans and basically called them all devils (implying that the
| democratic party was somehow better or more morally correct than the
| republican party).
Excuse me.
I did not call all republicans devils.
I did not imply democratic party party was somehow better.
I didn't even mention the democratic party.
I did not even insult you. (You on the other hand, hide behind repeated
stars.)
I did point out that this is a pathetic way for a party that proclaims
they are on a mission from god to downsize government to "downsize"
government.
I did point out that this is an odd priority given that there is not
even a budget law for FY96 (now almost half over).
I did point out the alice-in-wonderland nature of calling popcorn junk
food in one debate and then voting to create a federal popcorn board
with the "sense of congress" that popcorn is an important food that
is a *VALUABLE* part of the human diet.
I did point out that my Senators voted against this bill, while one of
Jack's Senator's voted for it. A Senator, by the way, who claims to be
1000% behind downsizing the gummint.
| Out of curiosity, did any dems vote for this board?
Gosh, what do you think? There were quite a few dim dems who voted for
this board. So what?
This board was created by republicans, moved to the floor by republicans,
and passed by Senate republicans. There is no doubt it will be passed
by House republicans as well. The only question left is has Clinton
grown tired of vetoing the loony revolution's bills.
-mr. bill
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| 662.36 | | SUBPAC::SADIN | Freedom isn't free. | Tue Feb 27 1996 18:12 | 34 |
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re: I didn't insult you.
> -< But but but but but but you'll try.... >-
yeah, telling me I stutter and then following it up with entries
like this isn't an insult. Saying you want me to stop and think for a while
(implying that you are somehow gifted with a knowledge I do not posess)
isn't an insult. Uh huh....
> These are stupid Congress Tricks. You can't blame these new taxes and
> these new boards on Democrats.
Nope, you can blame them on government in general since BOTH
parties voted for them.
Listen, I agreed with you that this board is a waste of
money/time/effort. I agree that the repubs are screwing up royally in
creating new boards/taxes/bigger govt. Can you accept that or are you
still going to question my moral relativism?
re: hiding behind stars
I say what I feel Mr. Bill. You run around insulting people,
speaking down to them in derogatory tones. I don't see ANYONE in this
conference that goes to the lengths you do to belittle others. You
don't make any attempt to show respect to your fellow man. That is sad
because I feel you are a very bright individual. Many more people would
listen to what you have to say if you would say it in a respectable
manner.
jim
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| 662.37 | And Wednesdays, Thursdays, Fridays, Saturdays, Sundays, Mondays | PERFOM::LICEA_KANE | when it's comin' from the left | Wed Feb 28 1996 09:10 | 12 |
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Get over it already. You turned this note nasty in .14.
And the but but but but is not a stutter. It's an accurate description
of your position on Republicans, which being generous is "You know,
these Republicans are dumb, but the Democrats are dumber."
None of which matters a hill of beans, because if you were at all
honest with yourself, you would admit that there is only one issue
that you truly care about on some Tuesdays.
-mr. bill
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| 662.38 | you're correct. mr. y | GAAS::BRAUCHER | Welcome to Paradise | Wed Feb 28 1996 09:38 | 7 |
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The Popcorn Board is a waste of money.
The "loony revolution" of the 104th is still way ahead of the
"loony status quo" of the 103rd. I remember just how bad they were.
bb
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| 662.39 | | SUBPAC::SADIN | Freedom isn't free. | Wed Feb 28 1996 09:44 | 17 |
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> None of which matters a hill of beans, because if you were at all
> honest with yourself, you would admit that there is only one issue
> that you truly care about on some Tuesdays.
Ah, I see. So now, through notes, you have completed your
psychoanalyzing of me and now you know all the things I truly care
about. yer pretty incredible Mr. Bill, yes you are.
As I have said before, you don't give me nearly enough credit.
hugs big guy,
jim
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| 662.40 | ? | PERFOM::LICEA_KANE | when it's comin' from the left | Wed Feb 28 1996 10:06 | 27 |
| Go ahead, shock me.
This is a simple thought experiment, I think I've got a good idea of
how it would turn out. I'd think every other noter here has a good
idea of how it would turn out.
Two candidates for an open US Senate seat. Both former
Representatives.
One, Mary Poppins, is practically perfect in every way as far as you
are concerned. She's your dream candidate. She even belongs to all
the right groups.
The other, Bert, is *NOT* practically perfect in every way. He's not
your nightmare candidate by any stretch, he's not even all that bad,
but on most of the issues "near and dear" to your heart, Mary is the
better match to your heart.
But (BUT, a big BUT) Mary voted for Brady and the assault weapons ban.
Bert did not.
There are no other candidates for Senate.
Anything else you need to know?
-mr. bill
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| 662.41 | huh ? | GAAS::BRAUCHER | Welcome to Paradise | Wed Feb 28 1996 10:12 | 11 |
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Well, Mr. Bill, I think you're confusing Boxers.
I own no guns. I don't know what the Brady Bill says. For me,
second amendment issues don't much blip onto my screen. I went
to the bathroom while Brett rambled on about whatever his latest
PRM things was. I don't even know if it passed.
Does the Brady Bill mention popcorn ? If so, I'll take an interest.
bb
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| 662.42 | | SUBPAC::SADIN | Freedom isn't free. | Wed Feb 28 1996 10:35 | 43 |
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re: <<< Note 662.40 by PERFOM::LICEA_KANE "when it's comin' from the left" >>>
Ok, I'll play.
> Two candidates for an open US Senate seat. Both former
> Representatives.
>
> One, Mary Poppins, is practically perfect in every way as far as you
> are concerned. She's your dream candidate. She even belongs to all
> the right groups.
>
> The other, Bert, is *NOT* practically perfect in every way. He's not
> your nightmare candidate by any stretch, he's not even all that bad,
> but on most of the issues "near and dear" to your heart, Mary is the
> better match to your heart.
>
> But (BUT, a big BUT) Mary voted for Brady and the assault weapons ban.
> Bert did not.
>
> There are no other candidates for Senate.
I would vote for Mary and hope I could influence her future
decisions. Yes, gun rights are a big deal to me, but they're not the
only deal.
As an example, take the current primary candidates. I would vote
for Bob Dole over Pat Buchanan in a heartbeat, even tho' Bob Dole
supported and helped pass the AW ban and Brady. Pat Buchanan is not
even close to my views on abortion, homosexuals, and protectionism. I
feel Bob Dole can be worked with on the firearms issue where Buchanan
cannot be worked with on these other issues.
This is how I have voted in the past, and this is how I will vote
in the future. If I honestly don't believe I can work with any
candidate, I will cast a ballot for myself as a write in. :)
jim
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| 662.43 | | SUBPAC::SADIN | Freedom isn't free. | Wed Feb 28 1996 10:35 | 6 |
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re: .41
Mr. Bill was addressing me.
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| 662.44 | | ACISS1::BATTIS | pool shooting son of a gun | Thu Feb 29 1996 14:15 | 3 |
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just a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down, the medicine go
down, the medicine goes down........
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| 662.45 | | GAVEL::JANDROW | i think, therefore i have a headache | Thu Feb 29 1996 15:25 | 5 |
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a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down, in the most delightful
way....
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| 662.46 | Popcorn, The Movie!!! | BSS::PROCTOR_R | Wallet full of eelskins | Tue Mar 12 1996 21:42 | 8 |
| > (a) FINDINGS- Congress finds that--
> (1) popcorn is an important food that is a valuable part of
> the human diet;
I personally find that popcorn and wild lovemaking go.... together.
the rest of you boxers can take it from there..
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| 662.47 | | SMURF::BINDER | Manus Celer Dei | Wed Mar 13 1996 07:39 | 2 |
| I've found that popcorn absorbs the natural lubricants and creates too
much friction.
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| 662.48 | | WAHOO::LEVESQUE | scratching just makes it worse | Wed Mar 13 1996 07:50 | 1 |
| Now that's something which should be "intuitively obvious". ;-)
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| 662.49 | | SMURF::BINDER | Manus Celer Dei | Wed Mar 13 1996 10:59 | 1 |
| Yes, but apparently not to Doctor Proctor.
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| 662.50 | | BSS::PROCTOR_R | Wallet full of eelskins | Wed Mar 13 1996 12:19 | 11 |
| > <<< Note 662.49 by SMURF::BINDER "Manus Celer Dei" >>>
> Yes, but apparently not to Doctor Proctor.
zzzzzz....
huh? wuzzat? hunh?
yes? hello? no, bob's not home..
zzzzz......
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| 662.51 | | BUSY::SLABOUNTY | Don't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448 | Wed Mar 13 1996 12:21 | 3 |
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And, as usual, the lights are out also.
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