Conference back40::soapbox

Billy Connelly live at the Opera House (which seems a fairly unlikely site for 
him)

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    TTLFT:
    
    The three days of carb-loading that will conclude this long pre-contest
    diet.
    
    Carb-depletion - as few carbs as possible
    Thursday - 7000 calories of carbs
    Friday   - 4000    "     "    "
    Saturday - 4000    "     "    "
    Sunday   - Showtime!
    
    Less than three weeks to go, and then...let me eat cake.  :-)
    
    
    
    Rob
    

    the Applefest this weekend at Mt Wachusett (okay, the Octoberfest part)
    and my anniversary weekend up in Ogunquit the following weekend (3yrs).

    
    TTLFT:
    
    Saturday night.  Our first anniversary and we're sending
    the baby to my in-laws for the night.  Dinner at our favorite
    restaurant (the one where our reception was held) and then 
    we'll take if from there....  *8^)

 Gonna watch some TV, eh?

    
    
    Or a riveting game of Parcheesi.....

 Fill out the Readers Digest Sweepstake forms?

    Hunting season...can't wait for hubby to leave me for a few days so I
    can have some peace and quiet!
    
    

    
    Hi Gail, what time should I be there. :')
    
    
    Mikey

    She said peace and quiet. ;')

    
    
    TTLFT:  Filling out my Digital 'Retirement' Forms. :*)
    
    
    
    Terrie
    

    
    
    
    Geez Terrie, you look FANTASTIC for your age. :')
    
    
    Mike

    
    
    Why, thank you Mike.  Tho, I've requested my photos be removed
    from the SOAPBOX homepage, so you won't have the pleasure of my
    smiling face on the web any longer.
    
    
    
    Terrie
    

       ttlft: A social afternoon with several boxers, bottles, and
              comestibles of varying levels of repute.

    it has been six months since i broke relations with a girl that i spent
    7 years of my life. tuesday i am going out with  a pretty young woman.
    

    RE -.1
    
    
    			Good for you . I have a close very close friend who
    after breaking up with their very short time (2 months) girlfriend has
    not dated in over two years. Maybe you should talk to him
    
    
    								Mike
    

    
    Mike,
    
    I think Chris likes girls.
    
    ;^)
    

    re .17
    
    
    			Good one

>back on the butcher block

You didn't tell us her name was Lorena!

/john

    Oooo... Oooo... aw, man that hurt!

    
    I look forward to, one day, being able to read one of George Rauh's
    notes and understand it the first time through.
    
    

    You must survive the cruel spa first, no?

    TTLFT - more clothes shopping this weekend !! I love it !

    
    
    	the weekend.  Car shopping with my dad.  I have had *no* time
    	to go over the past month and a half so I hope I find something
    	this weekend.  I really don't want to call the DCU and have my
    	pre-approval for my loan extended again!
    

    Going to bed and having a tommy-tank.
    

    highlight of your life, eh Stu?

    
    
    So who's the lucky lady toneet, Ms. Leftand or Ms. ritepalm?

    re .16
    tell your friend i went out with the girl. i thought she was about 25.
    she is 19. i thought she was smart. she was in first year law school.
    i thought she was in shape. she could barely walk 15 blocks. so i
    concluded that she would become a lawyer and buy an expensive car and
    go to aerobics classes and basically bore the bejeezus outa me.

    Nice to see that Stu is at one with his masculinity!

re .28

Yeah, but mebbe she'd buy _you_ an expensive car, too.

/john

    My mom always said "never take anything from a lawyer, except advice.
    And never take the advice of just one lawyer. And above all, document
    anything a lawyer ever says to you." Mom never trusted lawyers. Can't
    blame her either.

    TTLFT: 5pm (or thereabouts) next Wednesday.

<---your time or ours?

    Dec. 22,1995.

    
    A new position starting Monday that I've been waiting for.
    
    Happy noting, y'all.
    
    	Cheryl
    

       New positions are always interesting.

    Yes, I've thought of a few myself.

       re .37:
       
       I recommend you get some help.

    Oh, but I have.

    re .33
    
    My time Glen.

Hitting the swimming pool this evening. It's HOT!

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    8^[

    someone shoot that, that person!

    
    
    	<bang>
    
    

<---pretty small bang, Jim.... what did you use? 

    
    
    	My Beretta .25acp with Hornady Custom 35grn XTP hollowpoints. It's
    small, but it was enough for James Bond...;*)
    
    
    jim

    .46
    
    > Beretta .25acp with Hornady Custom 35grn XTP hollowpoints. It's
    > small, but it was enough for James Bond.
    
    Which is why, after the .25 Beretta's abysmal lack of stopping power
    nearly cost Bond his life in _From Russua with Love,_ M required him to
    dispose of his beloved Beretta with the skeleton grip and upgrade to
    something with enough power to stop someone, i.e., a 9mm Walther PPK.

    
    
    	Hmmmm...I seem to remember that scene. Bond was saying he never
    needed anything more than the Beretta (and I remember him stopping a
    lot of bad guys with it), but M made him give it up for the Walther
    because it was department issue. I could be mistaken....it's been a
    long time.
    
    
    jim
    
    p.s. - the current .25acp rounds are much more potent than what was
    available in the time-frame of James Bond movies. The Hornady .25acp
    moves out at 900fps (faster than a .45acp and most std pressure
    .38spls).
    
    

    
    
    re: 9mm Walther
    
    
    	I thought it was a .380acp?
    
    

    .48
    
    It wasn't the same in the book.  Go back and read _From Russia with
    Love._

    .49
    
    Could have been a .380ACP.  Whatever the PPK normally shoots.
    
    As for a 900-fps .25ACP, what're the bullet weights in grains, and
    what're the muzzle velocities, of a .25ACP, a .380ACP and a .45ACP?  I
    want to crunch muzzle energy numbers.

    
    	Binder, do you believe everything you read in fictional books and
    	see in fictional movies?
    
    	You know that lovely little BMW Z3 that Bond drives now?  It has
    	a top speed of about 115 MPH and takes 9+ seconds to get to 60MPH.
    	But I'd bet it appears to be the next Lamborghini Countach when
    	viewed on the big screen.
    

    
    
    	>    Could have been a .380ACP.  Whatever the PPK normally shoots.
    
    	They may have called it a 9mm in the book, because the .380acp is
    also known as the 9mm "short" in some circles.
    
>    As for a 900-fps .25ACP, what're the bullet weights in grains, and
>    what're the muzzle velocities, of a .25ACP, a .380ACP and a .45ACP?  I
>    want to crunch muzzle energy numbers.
    
    	For the hornady .25acp at 900fps it uses a .35grn JHP. The .380ACP
    will launch a 90grn JHP at 900-1000fps (depends how hot...CorBon loads
    are around 1000fps). The .45acp military load is a 230grn FMJ at
    830fps (you can get hot stuff over 900fps).
    
    	Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that a .25acp has more/equal
    stopping power when compared with the larger calibers, just that it
    will suffice when carrying a larger firearm is not an option (light
    clothing, etc).
    
    jim

| <<< Note 564.46 by SUBPAC::SADIN "Freedom isn't free." >>>



| My Beretta .25acp with Hornady Custom 35grn XTP hollowpoints. It's
| small, but it was enough for James Bond...;*)

	Wow.... is this ever a set-up waiting to happen! :-)

    
    re: .53
    
    >They may have called it a 9mm in the book, because the .380acp is
    >also known as the 9mm "short" in some circles.
    
    My Beretta 85f is considered a .380 acp as per the manual I received
    with it, but the gun is stamped '9mm short'...
    

  .55  take it to the gun snobs note.


	:->

    
    >My Beretta 85f is considered a .380 acp as per the manual I received
    >with it, but the gun is stamped '9mm short'...
    
    
    	Sounds like poor quality control to me.  Why didn't they make it
    	the correct length so they didn't have to stamp the correction on
    	every 1??
    
    	This is just like "Objects in mirror are closer than they appear".
    	I always wondered why they didn't fix the darn things so that they
    	showed objects as close as they actually appeared. 
    

    
    re: .56
    
    Touche'!!!!
    
    
     ;)
    

 > .55  take it to the gun snobs note.
    
    <snicker>

    .53
    
    A .45ACP has six times the stopping power of a .25ACP and nearly twice
    that of a .380ACP.  Let us remember that in the Spanish-American War,
    American officers were killed after emptying their .38 Colt service
    revolvers into advancing enemy who were not stopped by that sort of
    pantywaist lead.  Which is why the .45ACP came into existence.

    
    
    With the ballistics of today's rounds, I sure as heck wouldn't want to
    be stopped by anything coming out of a .25, .32, .380, .38 or .45!!!
    

    shopping for a new couch and loveseat...

     Who was it came up with the phrase: "A 9mm is a .45 set on *STUN*"?

        

    Tom Mix?

       <<< Note 564.63 by SPEZKO::FRASER "Mobius Loop; see other side" >>>

>     Who was it came up with the phrase: "A 9mm is a .45 set on *STUN*"?

	I was the first to post it here, but I was merely repeating
	something heard at the range.

Jim
        

    
    
    I sure as hell wouldn't want to get hit with the 9mm Hydra-Shocks what
    get pushed outta my Beretta 92FS...
    
     I don't think muzzle velocity would be foremost on my mind whilst
    they were slammin into me vitals...

    
    	I think shrapnel would be foremost on your mind.
    

    
    <-----
    
    Nope.... not with Hydra-Shocks...
    
    They tend to mushroom quite nicely and therein lies the whallop...
    

lookin forward to a 69 snarf!

Well, I *was* looking forward to swimming last last night, but no-one else was 
ready, so the pool was closed by the time they had their butts ready :^(

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    You just dip your butts in the pool?
    
    Boy, when they say "down under", they're not kidding are they?

    
    	You could have at least dipped the back of your butts in, even if
    	the fronts weren't ready yet.
    

    
    
    Great.... now you're gonna get Bonnie started again...
    
    :)
    

    
    
    BTW... 
    
    Volley-ball tonight, followed by 30 minutes of hot tub...
    

    
    
>    A .45ACP has six times the stopping power of a .25ACP and nearly twice
>    that of a .380ACP.  
    
    	Whoa...hold it right there. What are we basing our "stopping power"
    on? You haven't taken into account bullet design which is a MAJOR
    contributing factor to "stopping power". A better way of stating your
    point would be that .45acp has 6 times the ENERGY of .25acp. If I shoot
    you with a .380acp Mag-Safe round (frangible) and a .45acp FMJ round
    (non-expanding), I guarantee the .380 will cause more tissue
    damange/trauma.
    
>    Let us remember that in the Spanish-American War,
>    American officers were killed after emptying their .38 Colt service
>    revolvers into advancing enemy who were not stopped by that sort of
>    pantywaist lead.  Which is why the .45ACP came into existence.
    
    	And let us remember that the .38spl was slinging a 158grn RNL
    bullet at the time (at very slow velocities...about 700fps), thus
    resulting in low-penetration (i.e. - very few vital hits...see Jim
    Cirillo, ex NYPD, and his work with .38spls). In comes the .45acp
    throwing a bullet that weighs almost twice what the .38spl weighs, at a
    higher velocity, PLUS the bullet is an FMJ (increasing penetration to
    14" or more...it could penetrate the entire thoracic cavity). Care to
    guess what happens when you throw an FMJ into a warmer .38spl round?
    Care to guess why the 9mm was chosen over the .45acp for the military?
    Increased penetration!! Less bullet area plus increased velocity
    results in more penetration for 9mm FMJ than .45acp FMJ.
    
    	If one were to use strictly lead rounds of the same composition,
    the .45 will win out due to it's greater weight. BUT, if you throw
    bullet design into the equation it changes everything......
    
    
    jim 

  .75  <frowning, changing angle of head slightly for
        maximum esoterica absorption>

    
    
    	re: .76
    
    	<grin> :)
    
    
    	I love it when you do that. :)
    
    

    
    
    Yes, jim.... but she didn't call you a gun-snob... (yet)
    
    :)
    

    re: .76
    
    Let me translate for you...if program A has 10,000 lines of code and
    program B has 8,000 lines of code, it isn't always true that program A
    has more functionality than program B.  Program A could have been
    written by me in my spaghetti code writing days 20 years ago, and
    program B could have been written this year by person B using the
    latest OOP techniques.
    
    HTH,
    
    Bob

    
    re: .79
    
    	perfect! :*)
    
    

    re: .80
    
    I was going to say that it meant the same as saying that the man with
    the biggest <insert the name of Brian's favorite piece of anatomy
    here>, isn't always the best lover, but I decided not to:-)
    
    Bob

    
    
    
    Good thing you didn't, Bob, I can see the pun string now......as it is,
    maybe it will just Peter out.
    

    
    re: .81
    
    Careful Bob.... now that Brian Markey is leaving, the hunt for a
    succesor will go into full swing...
    
    ;)
    

You mean we will have to erect a new p-man to crown?

    it looks like this is where things wiil head.

    
    This ejaculatory string of puns is definitely hitting below the belt.

    
    
    	Come now people!  All this punning!  Off with your heads!
    

    
    	[Look of surprise due to JJ's recent acquisition of a dirty mind]
    

 ZZ   "Don't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448" 
    
    That's gettin personal lion!

    
    
    	recent acquisition??!!
    
    	Guess I kept it hid pretty well.............  ;)
    

    
    
    > Guess I kept it hid pretty well.............  ;)
    
    Vs. your physical attributes...
    
    
    ;)
    

    
    
    
    	ANDREW!!
    
    
    	{fluster}
    

    
    Well???
    
    That was a rather large gem you had!!!!!!
    
    
    :)
    

    
    >>  [Look of surprise due to JJ's recent acquisition of a dirty mind]
    
    {in my best tweety voice}
    
    jj, he don't know you very well, do he???
    
    
    :> :> :>
    
    

    
    
    	raq,
    
    	Nope.  =)
    

    
    I heard on the radio this morning that after orgasm, a woman has an
    ice-cold tongue.
    
    I wonder if it's the same for a man.
    

    Sounds like a good excuse for a filed test in the name of gathering
    data to prove or disprove that theory. 

    Good friggin' luck. If you find a woman that doesn't have an ice cold
    tongue immediately after orgasm, the researchers will tell you "she was
    faking it." Yeah, sure.

    
    Well, has anyone ever noticed this?  I'm grievously curious.
    

    
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    .99  no.  but i'm looking forward to doing some research.

    New neandert(h)al pickup line:
    
     Hey darlin d'yer fancy a cold tongue sandwich?
    

    
    	Gonna buy a couple books on the subject, Bonnie?
    
    	You're not married, so I can't think of any other options.
    

    Want Jack Frost to nip at something better than your nose?

| <<< Note 564.96 by POWDML::HANGGELI "Little Chamber of Tear-Off Bottoms" >>>


| I wonder if it's the same for a man.

	I haven't noticed any....